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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 05:25 PM Jan 2014

"If you tell anyone I said it, I will deny it." - And They Certainly Are...

Zimmer, a Democrat who has long been an ally of Christie, made the explosive accusation this morning on national television, telling MSNBC host Steve Kornacki that she was pressured by Lieutenant Gov. Kim Guadagno, Richard Constable, the current commissioner of community affairs, and Lori Grifa, the former commissioner.

Christie's administration denies the accusations.

Guadagno, Zimmer said, pulled her aside during an event in Hoboken in May and made the connection explicit. Zimmer recalled the interaction in her diary, which was quoted on the show:

“She pulls me aside and says that I need to move forward with the Rockefeller project. It’s very important to the governor. The word is that you are against it and you need to move forward or we are not going to be able to help you. I know it’s not right. These things should not be connected. But they are, she says. ‘If you tell anyone I said it, I will deny it.’”


And this...

The Rockefeller Group was represented by Wolff & Samson, according to Kornacki – the law firm of Port Authority Chairman David Samson. And Grifa, after stepping down as commissioner in 2011, took at job at the firm that included lobbying for the developer.


From: http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/01/hoboken_mayor_claims_christie_administration_held_citys_sandy_recovery_funds_hostage.html#incart_river_default

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"If you tell anyone I said it, I will deny it." - And They Certainly Are... (Original Post) WillyT Jan 2014 OP
and BOOM goes the dynamite! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #1
There's a local proverb malaise Jan 2014 #2
Put a fork in Christie. He's done. nt Laffy Kat Jan 2014 #3
Should we be shifting the conversation to how long he'll spend in prison? TroglodyteScholar Jan 2014 #4
jaded Calista241 Jan 2014 #5
very sad, but probably true. northoftheborder Jan 2014 #7
Yeah, but in Illinois governors who do this go to prison mucifer Jan 2014 #21
Hey, a couple years in Rahway, plenty of workout time and the food sucks mountain grammy Jan 2014 #6
This really is becoming more like Watergate everyday. Brigid Jan 2014 #8
Yep... "A Third Rate Burglary"... Drip... Drip... Drip... WillyT Jan 2014 #10
We must be about the same age. Brigid Jan 2014 #11
I Turned 58 Years Young, November 9th, 2013... WillyT Jan 2014 #12
55 here. Brigid Jan 2014 #13
Youngie... WillyT Jan 2014 #14
I remember the Watergate hearings on TV. Brigid Jan 2014 #15
ROFL !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #16
Sam Ervin? Oh gross! Brigid Jan 2014 #18
BOOM! Rex Jan 2014 #9
I saw this as well davidpdx Jan 2014 #17
It Becomes Part Of The Larger Narrative No Matter If It Can Be "Proven"... WillyT Jan 2014 #19
Kick !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #20
G'Night Kick !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #22

malaise

(296,118 posts)
2. There's a local proverb
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 05:29 PM
Jan 2014

Every day carry bucket go a well
One day the bucket bottom must drop out

The drip, drip, drip is now a steady flow and this pipe cannot be turned off.
Stick a fork in him.

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
4. Should we be shifting the conversation to how long he'll spend in prison?
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 05:50 PM
Jan 2014

Seems clear he's headed that way.

Calista241

(5,633 posts)
5. jaded
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 06:51 PM
Jan 2014

Perhaps i'm a bit jaded, but I believe this kind of stuff goes on every single day for nearly every single dollar spent by the government. Nothing whatsoever happens without someone paying a political price. Perhaps that price is an endorsement, or support on a vote for something, or public support for someone else's agenda. It could be anything.

There are always other projects in other districts that are in need of similar funding, and whoever offers a better "payment" to the decision maker gets the funding.

northoftheborder

(7,637 posts)
7. very sad, but probably true.
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 06:55 PM
Jan 2014

I think there will not be enough "discoverable" evidence to prove this accusation.

mountain grammy

(29,035 posts)
6. Hey, a couple years in Rahway, plenty of workout time and the food sucks
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 06:53 PM
Jan 2014

maybe he'll come out looking as good as Martha Stewart did after doing her undeserved time.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
8. This really is becoming more like Watergate everyday.
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 07:20 PM
Jan 2014

That started out with a botched third-rate burglary and ended with the president resigning in disgrace, and this has gone from one stupid act of political retribution and has already revealed others that are considerably worse. These are going to be interesting times in NJ.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
15. I remember the Watergate hearings on TV.
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 09:12 PM
Jan 2014

I remember I thought John Dean was cute.

Hey, I was in high school. Gimme a break!

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
18. Sam Ervin? Oh gross!
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 09:24 PM
Jan 2014

I remember somebody writing in to TIME magazine back then saying that he was the perfect example of why there should be an age set at which senators should be forced to retire.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
17. I saw this as well
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 09:22 PM
Jan 2014

I'm not sure this is that damning given it pits two people's opinion against each other. It was a private conversation and is hearsay. Don't get me wrong, I think it probably DID happen. I just have to wonder how the connection will be proven.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
19. It Becomes Part Of The Larger Narrative No Matter If It Can Be "Proven"...
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 09:55 PM
Jan 2014

Most of the howling against WaPo, Woodward, and Bernstein were accusations that they cannot be "proved".

And there were real and serious threats againts journalists and publishers as well:

Katherine Graham:



In conjunction with the Watergate scandal, Graham was the subject of one of the best-known threats in American journalistic history. It occurred in 1972, when Nixon's attorney general, John Mitchell, warned reporter Carl Bernstein about a forthcoming article: "Katie Graham's gonna get her tit caught in a big fat wringer if that's published." The two words "her tit" were cut on publication.


From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katharine_Graham


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