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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 07:41 PM Dec 2011

Panetta: Iraq War Was “Worth It”

A day after visiting Iraq, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta spoke to reporters in Turkey on Saturday and said this, according to the DoD’s own site:

“There is no question that the United States was divided going into that war,” he said. “But I think the United States is united coming out of that war. We all recognize the tremendous price that has been paid in lives, in blood. And yet I think we also recognize that those lives were not lost in vain. . . .

“As difficult as [the Iraq war] was,” and the cost in both American and Iraqi lives, “I think the price has been worth it, to establish a stable government in a very important region of the world,” he added.

The “price” that Panetta believes is “worth it” includes dead civilians in the hundreds of thousands, countless more maimed, millions of Iraqis internally and externally displaced (a huge number who remain so), tens of thousands of American soldiers killed and/or injured, and at least $1 trillion spent, contributing to “austerity” so severe that Panetta himself has been urging cuts to core social programs. That is above and beyond future Saddam-like oppression, tyranny and sectarian strife under the Malaki regime. As the always-insightful military historian and former Army Colonel Andrew Bacevich put it this week: “Recalling that Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction and alleged ties to al-Qaeda both turned out to be all but non-existent, a Churchillian verdict on the war might read thusly: Seldom in the course of human history have so many sacrificed so dearly to achieve so little.”

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http://www.salon.com/2011/12/19/panetta_iraq_war_was_worth_it/singleton/

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Panetta: Iraq War Was “Worth It” (Original Post) Purveyor Dec 2011 OP
Disgusting! n/t eridani Dec 2011 #1
Hard to decide what isle this guy is in, but with a statement like that he certainly is not with the teddy51 Dec 2011 #2
If that's a joke, it isn't funny Demeter Dec 2011 #3
Good to the Last Drop! kenny blankenship Dec 2011 #4
Horseshit Magoo48 Dec 2011 #5
BULLSHIT!!! Cali_Democrat Dec 2011 #6
About as "worth it" as Vietnam or Afghanistan. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2011 #7
tell that to the soldiers that died or lost limbs...tell that to them, leon. spanone Dec 2011 #8
The question is, what was the goal jakeXT Dec 2011 #9
This must be an Onion piece that Panetta wrote.............. Angry Dragon Dec 2011 #10
Just when I was reconciling myself to holding my nose and voting coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #11
It was Obama's opposition to the war contrasted with Hillary Clinton's ambivalence to it aint_no_life_nowhere Dec 2011 #12
Another wonderful Obama appointee! Maven Dec 2011 #13
Fucking douche Pigheaded Dec 2011 #14
Worth it? krucial Dec 2011 #15
Bullshit..nt and-justice-for-all Dec 2011 #16
and the coming war with Iran will be worth it and the next war and the next war... Va Lefty Dec 2011 #17
And they'll all be sold with the line "War with ( ___ ) will pay for itself!" kenny blankenship Dec 2011 #19
Fire and replace with a non-fuckwit, please. TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #18
This must be Turbineguy Dec 2011 #20
Ah gee ... T S Justly Dec 2011 #21
Wasn't the Saddam government "stable" until we attacked? GOTV Dec 2011 #22
this is the guy that runs the military...does his boss think the war was "worth it"? nt msongs Dec 2011 #23
What a fucking idiot! L0oniX Dec 2011 #24
It was worth it knocklindquist Dec 2011 #25
Enjoy the ride aint_no_life_nowhere Dec 2011 #27
Panetta the war criminal trying to justify himself. provis99 Dec 2011 #26
Great Job Leon! DCKit Dec 2011 #28
 

teddy51

(3,491 posts)
2. Hard to decide what isle this guy is in, but with a statement like that he certainly is not with the
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 07:44 PM
Dec 2011

majority of American people. I doubt that you would get agreement from many people on the Iraq war being worth it.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
7. About as "worth it" as Vietnam or Afghanistan.
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 07:47 PM
Dec 2011

What a pathetic piece of history rewriting Panetta is indulging in.

spanone

(135,897 posts)
8. tell that to the soldiers that died or lost limbs...tell that to them, leon.
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 07:49 PM
Dec 2011

oh and the dead iraqis too...men, women, children.

WMD.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
11. Just when I was reconciling myself to holding my nose and voting
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 07:51 PM
Dec 2011

for Obama in 2012, his Defense Secretary makes one of the more idiotic statements about the war. Oh, I'm still voting for Obama but this statement really asks a lot of the American and Iraqi peoples.

Does Panetta think we're all stupid? WTF?

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
12. It was Obama's opposition to the war contrasted with Hillary Clinton's ambivalence to it
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 07:52 PM
Dec 2011

that got him elected. Under those circumstances, I don't see how Obama could tolerate this statement, especially coming from his Secretary of Defense.

 

krucial

(206 posts)
15. Worth it?
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 07:54 PM
Dec 2011

It depends on who you are what the reality of the Iraq war is.
If you are the Pentagon,the Mlitary Industrial complex and defense contractors,and all who are invested in war,defense,and military stocks,all war is Good,and any war is worth it.

But if you are the innocent Iraqis,and many of our troops, both dead and injured, who was lied to about the reason for the war,then it is and has been a failure,a big mistake,destructfull and tragic,and not only that but has put us on the path to perpetual wars,and threats of even more wars,like the same players of the WMD scam,are gaming us again to start another war on Iranhave led to the erosion of our privacy and rights,and whats left of our democracy,and has turned us into becoming a police state and on the road to Fascism

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
17. and the coming war with Iran will be worth it and the next war and the next war...
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:11 PM
Dec 2011

more $$$ for: General Dynamics, Halliburton Corporation, Northrop Grumman, Boeing Company etc. etc. Excuse me now, I need to vomit

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
19. And they'll all be sold with the line "War with ( ___ ) will pay for itself!"
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:14 PM
Dec 2011

and of course the perennial, "We'll be greeted as liberators, and met with flowers and choirs of singing children."

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
28. Great Job Leon!
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 07:53 AM
Dec 2011

Try to play politics with the illegal invasion of Iraq, and you come off as completely out of touch, devoid of emotion and empathy.

You're not making me feel comfortable with your position as DEFENSE SEC.

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