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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 01:15 PM Jan 2014

Watch the Justin Bieber story, not for a star getting drunk

that is Tuesday, or even arrested. He is a Canadian Citizen. IF CONVICTED, he should be barred from coming into the US for the rest of his life, unless there were some really hard extenuating circumstances, such as becoming a political refugee later in life. If it was John Q Citizen who happens to be a tourist, he would be facing, quite possibly, an immigration judge on top of the local court.

Wanna bet our fine reporters will NOT go there? Why is Mr. Bieber being treated with kid gloves.

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Watch the Justin Bieber story, not for a star getting drunk (Original Post) nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 OP
His car Kelvin Mace Jan 2014 #1
They were rented, nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #5
Gosh, Kelvin Mace Jan 2014 #10
As I said in the OP, watch this, nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #11
Yep.. how does a 19 year old with an expired out-of-state license get a rental car? SoCalDem Jan 2014 #28
Justin Beiber, need I say more? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #29
Canada has some pretty strick DUI laws warrior1 Jan 2014 #2
about their laws warrior1 Jan 2014 #3
I see a defense case pleading Affluenza in his future. Baitball Blogger Jan 2014 #4
The presentation from MSNBC is crazee nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #8
Are you sure about that, Nadin? polly7 Jan 2014 #16
That is what she said two years ago nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #17
Why? former9thward Jan 2014 #18
Future--as in, at some point this kid is going to kill someone with his recklessness. Baitball Blogger Jan 2014 #19
No deportation for him.. SummerSnow Jan 2014 #6
We don't deport for a DUI Sgent Jan 2014 #7
Yup, that is why I know of a few cases nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #9
Legal residents getting deported because of a misdemeanor DUI and nothing else is highly unusual. Brickbat Jan 2014 #20
Is being an untalented hack a deportable offense? chrisa Jan 2014 #12
What about prescription drugs and weed? XemaSab Jan 2014 #14
Leocal vs Ashcroft...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #13
Any paying even the least amount of attention to this little shit... Javaman Jan 2014 #15
Beiber's closely following in the steps of Leif Garrett (who was on Celebrity Rehab a while back) groundloop Jan 2014 #25
Dang, I forgot all about Leif Garrett. Javaman Jan 2014 #32
Rich people live by different rules than us normal people. Rex Jan 2014 #21
I know local nooz matters little nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #22
I saw some cable news disussions not about sending him out... pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #23
Local lawyer said that he the easiest nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #24
I guess he's still a money machine Warpy Jan 2014 #26
It is sad, but just think, this kids mistakes are blasted across the world. Imagine if our own were peacebird Jan 2014 #27
I'm showing my age here.. NeoConsSuck Jan 2014 #30
Yes, on both nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #31
Times change... SidDithers Jan 2014 #33
 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
1. His car
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 01:18 PM
Jan 2014

and the car of the fellow he was drag racing should be forfeit and sold at public auction.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
10. Gosh,
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 01:25 PM
Jan 2014

that should make ZERO difference. Their should be a "no drag racing" clause in the contract.

Always happy to see rich dickweeds in court suing other rich dickweeds for restitution.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
11. As I said in the OP, watch this,
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 01:29 PM
Jan 2014

will be textbook of what in Mexico we used to call Junior treatment by the Courts.

The problem is the more the Courts do it, the less trust in the system from regular joes, and worst, they are doing no favors to Bieber or any other star. They literally fall through the cracks through the officiousness of extremely good lawyers.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
28. Yep.. how does a 19 year old with an expired out-of-state license get a rental car?
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 08:58 PM
Jan 2014

I still remember our oldest son's embarrassment when he could not get a rental car because he had not yet turned 25...and HE was running a corporate meeting. A guy who was under him, had to sign the rental form..

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
2. Canada has some pretty strick DUI laws
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 01:18 PM
Jan 2014

From what I read here awhile back, US citizens with a DUI are not allowed there with out a lot of paper work.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
8. The presentation from MSNBC is crazee
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 01:22 PM
Jan 2014

I heard an interview with his mother on CBC a couple years back. She was sorry to get him into the environment, because she lost control of him he lost him, to the environment that is the teen idol phenomena.

She saw it as a meal ticket, the family is not wealthy, but it did not quite work out the way she expected.

So no, he does not come from a family of means. He left his family in the dust though, and this is another part of the story our wonderful national media will not touch. I mean that might make parents think three times about American Idol.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
16. Are you sure about that, Nadin?
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 01:57 PM
Jan 2014

His mother is doing very well after living a pretty tough life. As far as seeing him as a meal ticket, apparently he showed talent even as a very small child. I don't know that of the millions of YouTube videos of parents showing off their child's talent, they'd all be accused of seeing that child as a meal ticket.

Mallette encouraged her son's talent, after he began showing an interest in music at the age of two. By age four, he taught himself to play the drums. Through the guidance of the church worship team, he continued to develop his drumming skills, while also learning to play the guitar, piano, and trumpet.[22] When her son was six years old, he began performing on the street in front of the Avon Theatre in Stratford, earning $3,000, which he used to take a vacation to Disneyworld in Florida.[23]

In 2007, she entered Justin in the local "Stratford Star" talent show, where he sang Ne-Yo's song, "So Sick", finishing second in the competition.[18][22][24] Mallette posted a video of the performance on YouTube for their family and friends to see. With each subsequent performance, Mallette uploaded a video to the Internet, so that family members who lived far away could see her son's progress.[18]

As Mallette continued to upload videos, her son's popularity on the Internet grew.[25] Chris Hicks, Bieber's A&R at Island/Def Jam, explained Bieber's huge online following to HitQuarters, stating:

"He was doing something different. He was an attractive white kid singing very soulful R&B hits. That set him apart immediately from anyone in his range because no one was covering or singing these kind of records. But equally important was that you believed in these songs–it was real. And you wanted to hear more."[26]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattie_Mallette

Justin Bieber buys his family a new $850,000 five bedroom home (father and step-brothers):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2481225/Justin-Bieber-buys-family-new-850-000-bedroom-home.html


Gramps (paternal grandfaher) sounds a bit pathetic here (Justin's maternal grandparents he's whining about helped his single mom raise him after his father left when Justin was just 10 months old).

He expressed jealousy of Justin’s maternal grandmother, Diane Dale, and her husband, Bruce.

“For them, nothing seems to be too much trouble, and he buys them new houses, cars, luxury holidays, anything they want. But for us, nothing,” George Bieber said.

“It’s hard to imagine the money Justin has, as it’s about as far removed from our life as you could possibly get,” he said.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/justin-bieber-ailing-grandpa-doesn-care-article-1.1323837#ixzz2rFF2QBso

And ... I'm not defending Bieber's antics, because he doesn't seem to realize it's time to grow up and he could be doing so much more good with what he's been given.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
17. That is what she said two years ago
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 01:59 PM
Jan 2014

and quite honestly, it is a crazy environment. Who knows? Perhaps they became friendly again.

As to what he has been given. My criticism of teen stars is that they are not allowed to have a normal life and really do not grow up. The drugs, the booze and the fast cars (and women at times) is a cry for help.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
18. Why?
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 02:15 PM
Jan 2014

He is not facing jail time. Just a minor DUI. A DUI can cause headaches for some but if you are rich is it a minor annoyance that you just throw some money at.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
6. No deportation for him..
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 01:20 PM
Jan 2014

his attorneys will argue hiw the record label makes so much money off of him and he is under contract, blah blah blah. If he keeps it up they'll find him and his car wrapped around a tree. It would be horrible.

Sgent

(5,858 posts)
7. We don't deport for a DUI
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 01:22 PM
Jan 2014

it has to be a "crime of moral turpitude" (with more than a 1 year prison sentence), an aggravated felony, or specific other crimes (drug, domestic violence).

a surprising readable summary on point: http://www.law.siu.edu/selfhelp/info/immigration/immigration%20midterm.pdf

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
9. Yup, that is why I know of a few cases
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 01:24 PM
Jan 2014

of people who were not that rich, who were stopped at at a DUI and were deported. Nor can they ever come back to the United States.

Yup, their only crime WAS a DUI. For the record, the state argued moral turpitude.

Did I mention these people only could afford a public defender, maybe?

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
20. Legal residents getting deported because of a misdemeanor DUI and nothing else is highly unusual.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 02:44 PM
Jan 2014

One might even say "rare" or "unlikely."

Javaman

(65,711 posts)
15. Any paying even the least amount of attention to this little shit...
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 01:41 PM
Jan 2014

has noticed the slow but steady downward spiral he's been in for the past 2 years.

do I think he's finally hit bottom?

nope, not by a long shot.

usually the flame out of a star is in direct proportion to their popularity.

while not popular to anyone above the age of say, 14, the "beeb", he does have a massive teen following.

so I expect him to have a truly epic crash and burn within the next year or so, given the current trend.

groundloop

(13,846 posts)
25. Beiber's closely following in the steps of Leif Garrett (who was on Celebrity Rehab a while back)
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 08:23 PM
Jan 2014

Leif Garrett was the same type of heart-throb phenom in the 70's that Beiber is today. It took over 20 years for Garrett to hit bottom, along the way he crashed a car and paralyzed his best friend. Beiber is just getting started, he'll buy his way out of this current little annoyance and will have had the lesson even more implanted in him that he can do whatever he wants because he's rich. He'll become even more hardcore. And on and on, until he crashes heavily. Let's hope and pray that he doesn't hurt anyone along the way.

Javaman

(65,711 posts)
32. Dang, I forgot all about Leif Garrett.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 10:43 AM
Jan 2014

you might be right, he may have a much longer way to go before he hits bottom, but then again did Garrett have the kind of money that Berber has? the amount of wealth also has a proportional effect upon the crash and burn timing as well.

what I wonder about all of this is this: while Berber is an adult, I wonder what his family thinks?

But then again, maybe they are living off his teet and keep their mouths shut as a result?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
21. Rich people live by different rules than us normal people.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 02:46 PM
Jan 2014

They get all the breaks and none of the jail heartache us working stiffs do.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
22. I know local nooz matters little
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 03:23 PM
Jan 2014

but last night (and today) I was laughing. Local news, (FOX no less) interviewed a local lawyer, who deals with DUI's. He said that sending him out of the country is possible, but not very likely.

Funny that.

(for the record, given tourists can and are expelled regularly, he should)

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
23. I saw some cable news disussions not about sending him out...
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:00 PM
Jan 2014

...but about refusing him entry if he left and tried to come back in.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
26. I guess he's still a money machine
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 08:29 PM
Jan 2014

even though he's outlived his usefulness as a tween star.

Kicking him out of this country would do the kid a favor. However, as long as the cash flow is positive, they'll allow him to plea bargain down.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
27. It is sad, but just think, this kids mistakes are blasted across the world. Imagine if our own were
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 08:40 PM
Jan 2014

at his age.
I know I made bad choices (not racing a lamborgini, but...) and did some really foolish stuff when I was a teenager. Very grateful that the world at large is not privy to that, especially as I am older now. I feel bad for the kid, it doesn't seem like his family or managers have helped him.

NeoConsSuck

(2,547 posts)
30. I'm showing my age here..
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 09:19 PM
Jan 2014

but didn't John Lennon face deportation hearings for drug use? And weren't the Beatles kicked out of Japan for drugs?

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