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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 04:22 PM Feb 2014

Elizabeth Warren Proposes Replacing Payday Lenders With The Post Office

Elizabeth Warren Proposes Replacing Payday Lenders With The Post Office

By Alan Pyke

The Postal Service (USPS) could spare the most economically vulnerable Americans from dealing with predatory financial companies under a proposal endorsed over the weekend by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA).

“USPS could partner with banks to make a critical difference for millions of Americans who don’t have basic banking services because there are almost no banks or bank branches in their neighborhoods,” Warren wrote in a Huffington Post op-ed on Saturday. The op-ed picked up on a report from the USPS’s Inspector General that proposed using the agency’s extensive physical infrastructure to extend basics like debit cards and small-dollar loans to the same communities that the banking industry has generally ignored. The report found that 68 million Americans don’t have bank accounts and spent $89 billion in 2012 on interest and fees for the kinds of basic financial services that USPS could begin offering. The average un-banked household spent more than $2,400, or about 10 percent of its income, just to access its own money through things like check cashing and payday lending stores. USPS would generate savings for those families and revenue for itself by stepping in to replace those non-bank financial services companies.

Those companies are among the most predatory actors in the money business. Payday loans with annual interest rates well north of 100 percent suck billions of dollars out of poor communities every year, with the average customer paying $520 to borrow $375. After decades of operating in a regulatory blind spot and ducking state-level reforms, the payday lending business now faces a crackdown from the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. The threat of new rules for short-term cash loans in general has caused traditional banks to stop offering deposit-advance loans with similar features.

But while ending triple-digit interest rates and fine-print tricks is a good thing for consumers, it doesn’t reduce the demand for those financial services. The USPS could slide into that space and meet that need without preying upon those communities. “Instead of partnering with predatory lenders,” David Dayen writes in The New Republic, “banks could partner with the USPS on a public option, not beholden to shareholder demands, which would treat customers more fairly.” America’s post offices are an ideal physical infrastructure for furnishing these services to communities currently neglected by banks. Roughly six in 10 post offices nationwide are in what the USPS report calls “bank deserts” — zip codes with either one or zero bank branches.

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http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/02/03/3239261/elizabeth-warren-post-office-financial-services/


Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democratic Senator from Massachusetts

Coming to a Post Office Near You: Loans You Can Trust?

According to a report put out this week by the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) of the U.S. Postal Service, about 68 million Americans -- more than a quarter of all households -- have no checking or savings account and are underserved by the banking system. Collectively, these households spent about $89 billion in 2012 on interest and fees for non-bank financial services like payday loans and check cashing, which works out to an average of $2,412 per household. That means the average underserved household spends roughly 10 percent of its annual income on interest and fees -- about the same amount they spend on food.

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But it doesn't have to be this way. In the same remarkable report this week, the OIG explored the possibility of the USPS offering basic banking services -- bill paying, check cashing, small loans -- to its customers. With post offices and postal workers already on the ground, USPS could partner with banks to make a critical difference for millions of Americans who don't have basic banking services because there are almost no banks or bank branches in their neighborhoods.

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This is not a new problem, and policymakers in Washington have long sounded the alarm. Michael Barr -- an assistant secretary of the Treasury under President Obama and law professor at University of Michigan -- has pushed on this issue for years. As Chair of the FDIC, Sheila Bair put in place a Committee on Economic Inclusion to generate ideas for expanding access to lower-cost banking services. (I had the honor of serving as a committee member.) And we've taken some important steps forward. The new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), for example, is a cop on the beat that is putting in place commonsense rules to protect consumers and ensure that payday lenders are held accountable when they break the law.

There has been momentum in the right direction, but there is so much more work to do to make sure that families have access to affordable and fair financial services....If the Postal Service offered basic banking services -- nothing fancy, just basic bill paying, check cashing and small dollar loans -- then it could provide affordable financial services for underserved families, and, at the same time, shore up its own financial footing. (The postal services in many other countries, it turns out, have taken steps in this direction and seen their earnings increase dramatically.) The report has provoked a great deal of discussion, and it is worth reading David Dayen's article about it at the New Republic -- "The Post Office Should Just Become a Bank: How Obama can save USPS and ding check-cashing joints."

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elizabeth-warren/coming-to-a-post-office-n_b_4709485.html

Providing Non-Bank Financial Services for the Underserved
http://www.uspsoig.gov/sites/default/files/document-library-files/2014/rarc-wp-14-007.pdf

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Elizabeth Warren Proposes Replacing Payday Lenders With The Post Office (Original Post) ProSense Feb 2014 OP
K & R. n/t FSogol Feb 2014 #1
Kick! n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #2
Thank you, ProSense! Cha Feb 2014 #3
That woman is a fucking genius. SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #4
She stole that idea ;-) DetlefK Feb 2014 #12
This model can be found all over the globe! Blue Idaho Feb 2014 #17
K and R! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #5
I can't imagine my letter carrier collecting overdue loans FarCenter Feb 2014 #6
He wouldn't. People would be able to cash checks and save money at their local Post Office. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #10
That's not "replacing payday lenders" who advance cash and expect to be paid back on payday FarCenter Feb 2014 #15
Read the ProSense Feb 2014 #16
This the same USPS that in the mid '90s projected big revenues for charging for email FarCenter Feb 2014 #27
GOP and 1% will not like this one. Kingofalldems Feb 2014 #7
Great idea! SunSeeker Feb 2014 #8
This is a brilliant idea! JDPriestly Feb 2014 #9
Great idea!!!!!!!!! meti57b Feb 2014 #11
I've got an even better idea: TURN POST OFFICES INTO VOTING CENTERS, and places where you can access TrollBuster9090 Feb 2014 #13
Like this! calimary Feb 2014 #45
Love Her....she knows how to "think out of the box." KoKo Feb 2014 #14
Well I know Hillary's ''supporters'' will not be pleased with this turn of events. DeSwiss Feb 2014 #18
Beautiful idea! Just do it already! ananda Feb 2014 #19
KnR. Micro-credit is badly needed here. Hekate Feb 2014 #20
If you read the USPS OIG's report, which Warren cites, they used to do this in the US too. sybylla Feb 2014 #33
Nice. Considering the way Congress has tried to drive the USPS out of existence, it would be ... Hekate Feb 2014 #43
Elizabeth Warren is not running for prez this time, but hers are the kinds of ideas we sorely need. avaistheone1 Feb 2014 #21
Amazing idea Dopers_Greed Feb 2014 #22
Kicking. Also praying that she becomes our candidate for POTUS. NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #23
Lioness of the Senate. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #24
I Love this Woman!! blondie58 Feb 2014 #25
I love this person. We need 58 more Warrens and Sanders. Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #26
Excellent. n/t tammywammy Feb 2014 #28
K&R, Warren for President!!! Whisp Feb 2014 #29
There had better be a separate TBF Feb 2014 #30
My ONLY concern with this is that of security for each PO. kentauros Feb 2014 #31
I love Elizabeth Warren, but she didn't propose it. She's just endorsing it. sybylla Feb 2014 #32
She clearly ProSense Feb 2014 #37
K&R valerief Feb 2014 #34
Wow! That is a great idea! loudsue Feb 2014 #35
Payday loans are a bad risk gerogie2 Feb 2014 #36
Phase out the post office? KansDem Feb 2014 #39
You are using it gerogie2 Feb 2014 #42
Gee if those loans are such bad business, why do so many companies offer them so aggressively? Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #40
Payday lenders ARE the big banks under another name. Great idea but there is no reason for the PO to grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #38
The post office is already acting as an ATM. aquart Feb 2014 #41
Effing brilliant idea! wryter2000 Feb 2014 #44
THIS is why we need her in the Senate loyalsister Feb 2014 #46
Good. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #47

Blue Idaho

(5,057 posts)
17. This model can be found all over the globe!
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 06:13 PM
Feb 2014

The government run British Post Office is the hub of most communities. Along with posting letters and packages you can renew your drivers license, get insurance, take out a loan, collect your pension check, and get a passport.

I believe this model can also be found in Asian countries as well.

It's a brilliant idea - no matter where it comes from.

sheshe2

(83,900 posts)
5. K and R!
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 05:18 PM
Feb 2014
snip/

The new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), for example, is a cop on the beat that is putting in place commonsense rules to protect consumers and ensure that payday lenders are held accountable when they break the law.

There has been momentum in the right direction, but there is so much more work to do to make sure that families have access to affordable and fair financial services.

That is why the OIG report is so interesting. If the Postal Service offered basic banking services -- nothing fancy, just basic bill paying, check cashing and small dollar loans -- then it could provide affordable financial services for underserved families, and, at the same time, shore up its own financial footing. (The postal services in many other countries, it turns out, have taken steps in this direction and seen their earnings increase dramatically.) The report has provoked a great deal of discussion, and it is worth reading David Dayen's article about it at the New Republic -- "The Post Office Should Just Become a Bank: How Obama can save USPS and ding check-cashing joints."

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elizabeth-warren/coming-to-a-post-office-n_b_4709485.html
 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
15. That's not "replacing payday lenders" who advance cash and expect to be paid back on payday
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 06:08 PM
Feb 2014

And when the deadbeats don't get a paycheck and can't pay, you have to have enforcers that can go after the money.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
27. This the same USPS that in the mid '90s projected big revenues for charging for email
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:49 PM
Feb 2014

They could probably do OK selling prepaid ATM cards.

But the USPS advancing credit to anyone is fantasy -- they'd never get the money back.

meti57b

(3,584 posts)
11. Great idea!!!!!!!!!
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 05:50 PM
Feb 2014

Also, that would provide civil service jobs (I think), which have reasonable (good) pay and protections against illegal and unfair treatment of employees.

TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
13. I've got an even better idea: TURN POST OFFICES INTO VOTING CENTERS, and places where you can access
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 05:56 PM
Feb 2014
other government services (ie-help with healthcare exchanges), as well as places you can REGISTER to vote.

Theoretically, the number of post offices is supposed to be proportional to the population. So, why not make post offices into GENERAL federal government service centers that not only handle the mail, but also become VOTING POLLS during federal elections. Screw the State elections, they can do what they want. But theoretically the Federal Government is responsible for Federal Elections (at least Congressional ones, as far as I know.)

They could also serve as places for people to get PHOTO IDs, and REGISTER TO VOTE.


This would have the side effect of making it harder for Republicans to try and kill the Post Office, just because they hate the fact that the workers are unionized, and their union donates to Democratic campaigns.


However, in either case, PAYDAY LOANS should be reined in! Those bastards are charging 22% interest PER MONTH. I thought we were supposed to have USURY LAWS against that kind of racketeering.
 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
18. Well I know Hillary's ''supporters'' will not be pleased with this turn of events.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 06:20 PM
Feb 2014
- I mean, who owns these payday loan/check cashing stores? Hmm? Although it's a great idea. England's been doing it successfully for years.

K&R

Hekate

(90,793 posts)
20. KnR. Micro-credit is badly needed here.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 06:28 PM
Feb 2014

British post offices once acted as small savings banks for their customers -- don't know if they still do, but it came up in a number of novels and bios I read when I was younger (Inn of the Sixth Happiness was one; the future missionary saved up for her trip to China at the post office).

sybylla

(8,526 posts)
33. If you read the USPS OIG's report, which Warren cites, they used to do this in the US too.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 10:32 AM
Feb 2014

In fact, the only reason they can do it now is because they used to do this. Apparently in the previous decade the congress passed a law banning the USPS from doing anything new, anything they haven't done before.

Since they used to do small services banking and still offer money orders, the USPS can easily get back into the business without anyone's approval.

Hekate

(90,793 posts)
43. Nice. Considering the way Congress has tried to drive the USPS out of existence, it would be ...
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 02:42 PM
Feb 2014

... satisfying on multiple levels if the USPS could do this.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
21. Elizabeth Warren is not running for prez this time, but hers are the kinds of ideas we sorely need.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 06:31 PM
Feb 2014

She is a genius. Love her.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
22. Amazing idea
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 06:39 PM
Feb 2014

Though be prepared for the exploitative lenders will fight this with everything they've got.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
23. Kicking. Also praying that she becomes our candidate for POTUS.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 07:05 PM
Feb 2014

We deserve a real Democrat, a progressive Democrat.

blondie58

(2,570 posts)
25. I Love this Woman!!
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 07:28 PM
Feb 2014

As retired member of NALC #47
This Makes me really Happy. We Could certainly use The Revenue And we are Trust Worthy Enough!

TBF

(32,092 posts)
30. There had better be a separate
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 08:41 AM
Feb 2014

line for that! Lines are always so long as it is ... but, yes, it is actually a very good idea.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
31. My ONLY concern with this is that of security for each PO.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 08:49 AM
Feb 2014

Because you can bet this will give people the idea of attempting to rob them. I know my local Post Offices have security cameras, but I've never seen armed guards like I see at my credit union (he even has his own desk, elevated a bit to see over all of the tellers.)

Are there any plans for added security, or would they automate it in some way instead?

sybylla

(8,526 posts)
32. I love Elizabeth Warren, but she didn't propose it. She's just endorsing it.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 10:26 AM
Feb 2014

In fact her article cites a report from the USPS Office of the Inspector General dated mid January who made these recommendations and pointed out that since the USPS has in the last century offered banking activities for a time, they could get around the latest puke BS which banned the USPS from taking on anything "NEW."

I am thrilled Elizabeth Warren is on this. I'm amazed at how many more people have heard of it thanks to her. I'm just calling for a little accuracy in the headlines and credit where credit is due.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
37. She clearly
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:12 PM
Feb 2014

"I love Elizabeth Warren, but she didn't propose it. She's just endorsing it."

...states that in her op-ed, which is included in the OP. The title of the other piece aside, there should be no confusion.

 

gerogie2

(450 posts)
36. Payday loans are a bad risk
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:05 PM
Feb 2014

People that don't have good credit or are very low income obtain payday loans, They have a notorious record of not paying back those loans. We need to phase out the post office not expand it into loan sharking.

 

gerogie2

(450 posts)
42. You are using it
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 02:07 PM
Feb 2014

The Internet has replaced any needing for delivery correspondence written on paper.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
40. Gee if those loans are such bad business, why do so many companies offer them so aggressively?
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:26 PM
Feb 2014

Seems to me those loans are largely paid back and also repeated, that's how such 'payday loan' companies make all that money. Hundreds of millions of profit a year.....

 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
38. Payday lenders ARE the big banks under another name. Great idea but there is no reason for the PO to
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:18 PM
Feb 2014

"Partner with the big banks on this as mentioned.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
41. The post office is already acting as an ATM.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:30 PM
Feb 2014

My credit union has very few free cash machines and those are in NYC and LA where I'm not. I give the post office my debit card and they will give me up to fifty dollars, more than adequate my my usual quick cash needs. Otherwise, store will honor debit cards but usually for more than the price of a stamp.

 

TheMathieu

(456 posts)
47. Good.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 05:48 PM
Feb 2014

The amount of payday lenders in my town is too damn high.

They take advantage of the working poor with very little oversight.

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