Why does bob Dylan hate craft brewers?

[Bennyboy]

"Let Germany brew your beer" Yeah right on, Bob.

I don't care that you did an ad, when you did the Victoria's Secret ad, I was over that. When Jerry Garcia did a Levis' ad I was over the whole thing.

But this is an outright diss at American craft brewing.

I'm appalled. Outraged. disgusted.

[Blue Owl]

1. Weren't the times a-changin', or something...

[Bennyboy]

9. The Times have changed and German beer sucks ass.............

compared the fine brews offered by the AMERICAN craft brewing industry.

I am thinking of starting a special BOB DYLAN themed craft brewing line.

"This ain't German" Pilsner.

"Botticelli's Wife", a Robust Red.

"Not Just Another Cup of Coffee" IPA

[Chiyo-chichi]

17. Bob Dylan's 115th Cream Stout...

Blonde on Blonde Ale...

A Hard Cider's Gonna Fall...

[Bennyboy]

19. You got it.....

I've done Bob Dylan character parties before and the costumes were mind blowing. Really the nitty gritty.....

[Ken Burch]

63. "oh, how does it feel...how does it feel...to drink on your own..."

"...kraut beer, all alone...from a brewery unknown...with the taste of loam...pass out near your home...Spewing Rolling Foam..."

[brewens]

59. I used to hate craft (micro) brews. I worked for a beer distributor that sold both

Bud and Miller products. I didn't know about real beer I realize now, I just knew what we thought. It was kind of understandable for guys that make their living selling half-racks of crap to alcoholics that are going to suck the whole 12 beers down in one night. I would only say that kind of American light beer is really ideal for hot days on the river when you're out to pound a bunch down fishing. A higher alcohol heavier beer is a Little harsh under those conditions.

It was 1994 in Seattle for the "Stones" Voodoo Lounge show that I really drank my first craft brews. I think the first I really liked may have been Coos Bay Amber Ale if I remember the name right. The guys I was with took me to a little bar they knew where we played shuffle board and drank mostly pounders of that. I had to admit it was really enjoyable.

At the beer distributor we hated anything that made things harder on us. The micro brews were cutting into our sales and then Anheuser Busch bought out the Red Hook brewery and forced that on us. We also really hated the high alcohol "ice" beers we had to start pushing. We were really right about that one I think. Good call corporate guys! Sell cheaper high alcohol beer to alcoholics, make them drunker faster, get them in more trouble and manage to lose more money! The same guy might have had to been satisfied with the lower alcohol stuff or would have had to buy more beer and spend more money. WTF were they thinking there?

[tabasco]

65. That's among the stupidest comments I've ever read.

" German beer sucks ass..."

Maybe the shit they send over here, but German beer is the best in the world.

[brewens]

2. I always look to Bob for beer advise, who wouldn't? LOL n/t

[Bennyboy]

10. About as often as I look to Bob for car buying advice....

Or Underwear purchases. (tagless!)

[Fumesucker]

3. The Answer Is Blowing In The Wind

[Warpy]

4. As a former home brewer all I can say is

enjoy your carbonated cat piss, Bob. You just don't know what's good.

[adirondacker]

5. I heard Ol Neil put him down...

[Armstead]

66. I remembwer that one...Brillinant send up by ol' Neil

[Initech]

6. Bill Hicks artistic roll call:

[adirondacker]

8. !

[CBGLuthier]

11. I can only imagine what he would have said about the coke ad.

Somehow I do not think he would have liked it very much.

[Egalitarian Thug]

32. "Another corporate fuckin' shill" nails it.

Dylan, Bono, Sting, et cetera, ad infinitum.

[evlbstrd]

7. Bit of a stretch.

I drink craft beers made in the U.S.

[bemildred]

12. Shhhhhhh! More for the rest of us. nt

[cbdo2007]

13. LOL

[MineralMan]

14. What is this about? Do you have a link or something?

Thanks in advance.

[tkmorris]

18. Seems to be referring to a Super Bowl ad

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/02/02/bob-dylan-makes-the-chrysler-200-pitch-in-super-bowl-ad/

[MineralMan]

21. Oh, OK.

Thanks for the link.

[cyberswede]

22. It's from a Superbowl ad

Near the end.

[MineralMan]

23. Thanks.

Doesn't seem worthy of a post to me.

[cyberswede]

26. While I think the OP's conclusion is a bit of a leap...

I did wonder about the logic of the ad when I saw it during the game.

It seemed odd to me to promote "buying American" when it comes to cars, but promote buying other products from other countries. I mean, I get it as an advertising device, but it still seemed weird.

[MineralMan]

29. Advertisers make lots of mistakes.

This might have been one, I suppose. It's unimportant, though, really. Bob Dylan's comments about beer and cars aren't really going to influence people much about either, I imagine.

I read it as "If you want to, buy German Beer, but buy American Cars." Since it was a car company sponsoring the ads, it's pretty shruggable, I think.

The reality is that most Americans buy American beer, because it's cheaper. Beer connoisseurs might buy American craft beers or imported beers. Most probably buy both at one time or another. The same applies to cars. And most US car companies have vehicles manufactured all or in part outside of the US, so the distinction is difficult to make, really.

I'm a Dylan fan since the early 1960s. I do not believe, though, that Bob Dylan's opinions about consumer merchandise has ever entered into any of my decisions.

Besides, Chrysler is a foreign-owned corporation these days, anyhow.

Again -

[cyberswede]

30. Nor mine, in fact...

I was shocked to see him in an ad at all - it seems so "establishment." There was an earlier ad during the game in which a Dylan song played in the background, and even that surprised me. I guess he's done ads for other products, but I only learned about that today on DU.

I've been a Dylan fan since I was a kid (thanks to my older siblings).

[Dash87]

15. The "German beer or nothing!" crowd is demonstrably wrong and pretentious!

American beer doesn't mean "Budweiser" anymore. Bud, Miller, etc. are sinking ships. Craft brews are massacring them.

America is brewing some good beer these days. You have to find that local brewer that bought space in an old factory / has spiders everywhere / has the fat guy drinking his own beer while giving you samples / you think you might get knifed in the parking lot.

[hughee99]

31. I'm not sure about 2013, but in 2012 the top selling beers in the US were

1. Bud Light (about $6 billion in sales)
2. Coors Light (about $2.2 billion)
3. Bud ($2.1 billion)
4. Miller Lite ($1.9 billion)
5. Natural Light ($1.2 billion)
6. Corona Extra ($1.1 billion)
7. Busch light ($824 million)
8. Busch ($710 million)
9. Michelob Ultra Light ($698 million, up 17% over the previous year)

All had gained in sales over the previous year except Bud (#3) and Busch (#8) which were slightly down. The craft brews are much better, but the "swill" beers aren't going anywhere.

[jberryhill]

35. The Belgians and Czechs make better "everyday beers" than the Germans

Although I consume a fair amount of Paulaner in the fall.

[Initech]

45. Oh Belgian beer is so good!

I tell my friends - if you drink beer and you've never been to Belgium, get off your ass!

[Glassunion]

39. Budweiser is no longer an American beer.

They are owned by a Belgian company.

[Paladin]

43. Did you leave any pretension for anybody else?

That craft beer mystique that's being flogged so hard these days provides cover for a lot of mediocre-to-dogpiss-quality brews, in my experience.

[Throd]

46. Amen!

A lot of them seem more concerned with a jivey name and a quirky label over what is actually inside the bottle or can.

[skepticscott]

61. And your high-quality beers of choice would be...

???

[Paladin]

64. I tend to favor canned Tecate with a lime slice. It tastes good. (nt)

[G_j]

16. context?

[Bennyboy]

25. Bob's Super Bowl Chrysler ad....

http://www.businessinsider.com/bob-dylans-chrysler-super-bowl-commercial-2014-2

[lame54]

20. 'Cause they suck...

I've tried many micro-brews and they start tasting the same after a while - hops hops hops
Imports are way better

[Bennyboy]

27. Um, no........

There are huge differences between say, Moose Drool and Pliny the Elder(or Younger) and Allagash White, Coloma brown. Perhaps you should stray from IPA's nad Pale Ales and go more for less hoppy beers like Porters, stouts, browns, Belgians or sours.

I live in the cradle of brewing, NORCAL< and let me tell ya, beer rocks. Neighborhood breweries making killer beers. Ever brewer making different beers, different styles..

Sierra Nevada? Wow, They are amazing, the Beer Camps, the restaurant beeer camps, the celebrity brews and all the seasonals. Amazing.

BTW, most "Import Beers" are not. They are brewed here in the US by some conglomerate (INBEV, Coors/Miller)that owns that brewery and name and then sold as imports. Unless you are buying at a specialty house, it is not likely imported.

Wanna make a difference? OCCUPY YOUR BEER GLASS!

[lame54]

38. i spent years exploring these beers...

looking for the next great thing - they all have that same sour taste

i've done my time - no need to dive back in

[tkmorris]

28. Sorry, no. Just no

Sounds like you have a hop-headed friend passing you bottles. There is a plethora of fine American craft brews in varieties that don't feature hops on the palate.

[lame54]

42. I no I'm in the minority on this...

But I have tried many many many of these beers from all over

I'm done

[Trajan]

53. Nobody here can account for the quality of your palate

Nuff said ...

[n2doc]

24. Bob "Anything for a buck" Dylan

Exemplifies his generation. Rebel when young, sell out when old.

[Egalitarian Thug]

33. That is the winning reply, and what better spokesperson for the boomers than him?

Just as you wrote, he was an extremely talented idealist that sold his soul when he realized that the game is all just a game.

[2banon]

37. Excuse me? You're talking about MY generation, your snarky comment I greatly disagree with.

And fresh off the heels of Pete Seeger's passing no less.

[msanthrope]

40. Just another Boomer sellout. nt

[Gidney N Cloyd]

57. Boomer icon, but technically not a boomer himself. Born in '41.

[Jesus Malverde]

44. ^^^Yep^^^

[Gidney N Cloyd]

48. Good to know later generations solved that whole 'feet of clay' problem.

[WinkyDink]

49. As opposed to selling out from age 18, like succeeding generations. Or did I MISS all those

college demonstrations against the Illegal Iraq Invasion?

[lumberjack_jeff]

52. I don't think that entering show business already pre-sold is any better.

At least he started out genuine.

[LanternWaste]

56. I imagine a lot of diots believe that accurately applies to any generation but their own.

" Rebel when young, sell out when old..."

I imagine a lot of sub-literate idiots believe that accurately applies to any generation but their own, when rather, it exemplifies humanity...

[2banon]

34. hmm. horrible ad with a very disappointing message.

I'll still admire him for his brilliant work, but I have to wonder what his financial situation was in to compel him to agree to doing this flag waving piece of crap.

[Glassunion]

36. Does he hate craft brewers, or does he simply like German beers?

I like French wine. Does not mean that I hate Sonoma County.

[Bennyboy]

54. You hate America....

By buying from other countries. So yeah.

[Glassunion]

55. Riiiiiiight.

If you say so.

[2banon]

41. Horrible Ad, but the OP is greatly misleading. There's No "Hate Craft Brewery" msg in that ad

The script calls for swiss watches to made in Switzerland, phones be made in Asia, beer made in Germany and Cars be made in the US.

It's a dumbfuck ad, but it doesn't express hate for craft beer.

[Quantess]

47. Forget Bob Dylan and listen to Kraftwerk.

Let Germany "kraft" your music.

[LanternWaste]

50. How precisely, does preferring A lead to hatred of B in this particular illustration?

How precisely, does preferring A lead to hatred of B in this particular illustration?

Or (and I find this more likely) is this merely a translation of convenience to feign a petulant outrage over a benign commercial?

[Hoyt]

51. "Positively 4th Street" comes to mind.

You've gotta lotta nerve to say you are my friend
When I was down you just stood there grinnin'
You've gotta lotta nerve to say you have a helping hand to lend
You just want to be on the side that's winnin'

You see me on the street, you always act surprised
Ya say "how are you?", "good luck", but ya don't mean it
When you know as well as me you'd rather see me paralyzed
Why don't you just come out once and scream it

I know the reason you talked behind my back
I used to be among the crowd you're in with
But do you take me for such a fool, to think I'd make contact
With the one who tries to hide what he don't know to begin with?

You say I've let you down - ya know its not like that
If you're so hurt, why then doncha show it?
You say you've lost your faith, but that's not where its at
Ya have no faith to lose - an' ya know it

No, I do not feel that good when I see the heartbreaks you embrace
If I was a master thief perhaps I'd rob them
And tho I know you're dissatisfied with your position and your place
Don't you understand, its not my problem?

I wish that for just one time you could stand inside my shoes
And just for that one moment I could be you
Yes, I wish that for just one time you could stand inside my shoes
You'd know what a drag it is to see you.


Bob Dylan -- 1965

[Spirochete]

58. Our taps don't work

cause the vandals stole the handles...

[skepticscott]

60. Yeah, I gacked at that too

Sorry, Bob, but Americans brew better beer than anyone else in the world. Better than Germany, better than Belgium. Better variety, better quality, better innovation.

Unless you've been swilling BMC crap all your life and see nothing better.

[Ken Burch]

62. Somewhere out there, Phil Ochs is pissed off, too.

And Pete Seeger is looking for mic cables to cut(this time, for real).

[ScreamingMeemie]

67. I am not. Craft beer tastes exactly like Budweiser to me--Crap.

Sorry, I know some people think there is some discernible difference, but, no...

It all tastes like bitter pee. I'll pass on your fancy stuff that you spent waaaaaaaaay too much time making as well as the cheap stuff.

[Orrex]

68. He's hated them ever since he caught Johnny in the basement mixing up the medicine.

[dembotoz]

69. you actually tnink he wrote the script himself.

by the way
chrysler is owned by fiat

[mulsh]

70. "you only rent your beer" sound advice.

n/t