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[VanillaRhapsody]

1. And she is suing over this....

[11 Bravo]

6. Are you fucking kidding me?

Please repost this in the appropriate forum ... I'm thinking maybe a Porta-Potty at the nearest construction site you can find.

On edit: Apologies, VR! I was trying to respond to the OP.

[VanillaRhapsody]

11. why?

This is not my OP...

[VanillaRhapsody]

16. Did you read the text on the bottom?

Sorry this was meant for the previous poster...

[11 Bravo]

23. If you haven't already done so, please see my edit.

I effed up by responding to the wrong post.

[NightWatcher]

2. Aw yeah

Where's my

[pnwmom]

66. Elizabeth Hurley says the claims are "ludicrously silly."

http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/05/elizabeth-hurley-takes-to-twitter-to-deny-affair-with-bill-clinton-after-branding-the-claims-ludicrously-silly-4291885/

[JaneyVee]

3. BULLSHIT.

[VanillaRhapsody]

4. Not to mention how does Bill's past history reflect on Hillary?

this is straight out of the Republican playbook....somehow they want to paint Hillary unelectable because they want to prove that Bill proves she is the one having a war on women...or some such nonsense...

[Cha]

38. Actually I see it as better for Hillary.. we already

knew what Bill is.. if this is even true..

Where was Hugh Grant in all of this? Inquiring minds? NOT. lol

[TheDebbieDee]

91. Hugh Grant was probably in the back seat with that hooker Divine

About to be arrested for soliciting in LA.

[Cha]

96. there ya go.

[Politicalboi]

5. So what

Is this ALL they got?

Bill Clinton fooled around is now news? This could backfire and give her more sympathy.

[Cha]

41. Just what I said upthread, kinda. It

makes her stronger.

[VanillaRhapsody]

56. They think they can rile up the Republican Base by reminding them that Bill is a philanderer

that their "women" won't want to put that "philanderer" back into the Whitehouse and give him more chances to screw around...as if that is the ONLY thing that makes Bill attractive to other women or something...

Besides...Tom Sizemore is a Crackhead...no wonder Elizabeth Hurley tossed him to the curb!

[zappaman]

7. Here we go!

Guess someone is afraid of Hilary.

[VanillaRhapsody]

8. also on Radar....is Tom Sizemore Smoking Meth... complete with images..

http://radaronline.com/photos/tom-sizemores-drug-shame/photo/615286/

?w=400

?w=400


This is the "witness"

[Jesus Malverde]

14. Good catch, I don't follow celebrities much..

Not the most credible source...

[hlthe2b]

36. Meh, what are the Law & Order SUV secrets?

This is pure RW tabloid BS, btw

[CreekDog]

60. you expect us to believe that after posting that?

what crap.

[Jesus Malverde]

68. Which part?

Thanks.

[CreekDog]

75. you expect us to believe you don't follow celebrities much after posting your OP?

and it's source!

[Jesus Malverde]

78. I don't even watch TV.

TV's rot the brain. I used to watch hours and hours of it, watched endless news shows...it's all crap.

Movies are even worse, one giant product placement.

I listen to streaming music and go to bars for games.

KMUD and KHUM

[DURHAM D]

79. Let me see if I got this right...

TV's (sic) rot the brain but not tabloids?

[Jesus Malverde]

80. Tabloids are used in politics...

American Media is behind this, they are a company that has an interesting history in American politics. Famously they were attacked in the anthrax attacks.

This isn't about celebrity or the quality of the source it's about politics.

[LanternWaste]

82. That's one way to rationalize reading tabloids whilst criticizing television....

That's one way to rationalize reading tabloids whilst criticizing television. I imagine one or two people may even buy into the pretense.

[DURHAM D]

83. Who is "they"?

[Jesus Malverde]

89. American Media

http://www.americanmediainc.com/

American Media, Inc. (AMI) owns and operates the leading celebrity and health & fitness media brands in the country. Our magazines have a combined total circulation of 7.1+ million and reach 60+ million men and women each month. Our digital properties reach a total of 31+ million unique visitors and 231+ million page views monthly.

AMI pioneered both the celebrity and health & fitness categories. During the 1960s, the National Enquirer was the first magazine to begin publishing celebrity news and gossip on a weekly basis. Weider Publications (acquired by AMI in 2003) launched the very first health & fitness magazine, Your Physique, in 1940.

Today, AMI’s celebrity titles have the #1 market share in total newsstand circulation in the celebrity category and are the fastest growing brands online. Our health and fitness titles command the #1 market share of national magazine ad pages in their competitive set.

According to wikipedia American media is controlled by...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Altman
Former United States Deputy Secretary of the Treasury who served under Bill Clinton.
Altman has served as advisor to two presidential candidates: John Kerry in 2004, and Hillary Clinton in 2008.

Small world...

[DURHAM D]

90. Do you work for them or some other tabloid?

[Auntie Bush]

122. Sounds like maybe you did watch TV to long and it already got you.

[Jesus Malverde]

123. Could be...

[Capt. Obvious]

87. Follows Woody Allen

[bettyellen]

15. I dont trust junkies one bit, LOL.

[AngryAmish]

81. He is NOT smoking meth!!1!

He is smoking crack. Big difference.

[Nevernose]

99. That's a crack pipe, not a meth pipe

Although I know he went to rehab for meth addiction.

[cry baby]

10. The ex-prez was a philanderer....this is explosive news? And....

this will torpedo her success in running for prez?

I'll echo what another poster so eloquently said......BULLSHIT!

[Warren DeMontague]

12. How delightfully retro!

Clenis hysteria is so '98.

[DURHAM D]

19. Yep. This is just the story Bob Dole's campaign has been looking for.

[Comrade Grumpy]

59. Good one.

[Warren DeMontague]

62. Dooooooole!

Doooooooooooole!

[Chorophyll]

63. Nice!

[Cha]

47. ..

[Tarheel_Dem]

13. Is Ms. Hurley running for Prez? That's the only way I see this as the least bit relevant.

[seabeyond]

67. i think you would mean bill. hurley has little to nothing to do with it.

she isnt married to hillary.

we do not need to go after the woman, cause the man chooses to be an ass.

[Tarheel_Dem]

92. My point was that I don't care who, what, where or when. This is all irrelevant muckraking. nt

[seabeyond]

93. gotcha. nt

[cali]

17. More garbage gossip. thanks for nothing.

oh, and I totally doubt this story.

[Armstead]

18. I'm going to predict at least 350 posts on this thread.

[JaneyVee]

43. Aaaaand we're off!

[Captain Stern]

86. I'm going to bet on the 'under' on that 350.

Only because somebody else will post on this thread, and didn't think their post was paid enough attention to, so they'll start another thread about it with a different angle.

For the purposes of my bet, the posts on the other thread can't count towards the 350.

[Capt. Obvious]

94. I'm taking the over on 2.5 hidden posts in this thread

[DURHAM D]

20. This would be way more interesting if the story

was about Hillary and Hurley.

[Whisp]

40. ha! I have to agree, wow!

I'd like Hillary a Lot more if that were so.

[Holly_Hobby]

98. Here ya go :)

"Hillary's ate more p***y than I have!"

http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/05/18027-hillary-clinton-to-admit-to-being-lesbian-in-new-tell-all-book/

(warning, conservative website, be sure to wash your eyes out)

[Whisp]

102. no way I'm going there, but thanks anyway!

what I meant was if Hillary had the courage to out herself as a lesbian and still remain in politics I would consider that a great feat of strength and have no choice but to greatly admire her at least for that.

Right now, there's not much!

[Beacool]

112. That would only be relevant IF she was a lesbian.

Which she isn't.

[DURHAM D]

114. You are correct.

She is definitely not a lesbian and I am in a position to know.

Did you see that Tom gave an interview today and said he has never been to the White House and never met any president and nothing in the story is true? He doesn't remember making those comments but said he could have because he spent so many years totally messed up.

ETA: I just saw your post at the bottom of the thread. A lot of DUers will be said to hear the truth.

[Beacool]

116. Yeah, when it comes to the Clintons, this place resembles a RW site.

Disgusting......

[deutsey]

21. I'm not a big supporter of Hillary but

I'm not getting how this old (and perhaps bogus) news is supposed to threaten her possible presidential run.

[Arugula Latte]

85. Well, let's face it,

if Hillary gets back in the White House, The Clenis will regain its superpowers and take over the world. Are you willing to risk that?

[deutsey]

133. I had other issues with Bill Clinton beyone the Clenis

His affair with Monica was low on my list of gripes against him (and, yes, I voted for him in '92 somewhat enthusiastically--he was not my first choice, though, and I honestly wasn't all that thrilled with him overall--and holding my nose when I cast my ballot for him in '96).

[MineralMan]

22. I call bullshit on this.

It's a pure, desperate, hateful attack from an unreliable source.

[libdem4life]

24. Wake me up when they get to the "Hillary is Gay" headline. Zzzzzz n/t

[justiceischeap]

70. That's been done SOOOOOO many times already.

But I'm sure they'll trot it out.

[libdem4life]

76. Pretty predictable ... those clever ol' GOPers.

[PoliticAverse]

25. "Elizabeth Hurley denies 'ludicrously silly' claims she had year-long affair with Bill Clinton

after he flew her on private jet to the White House"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2552236/Elizabeth-Hurley-year-long-affair-Bill-Clinton-introduced-Hollywood-actor-ex.html

[Brickbat]

26. Hang on, is it the 1990s again? Excellent!

[underpants]

27. Tom Sizemore??

He is still trying to work off drug debt to Tarrantino isn't he?

[Rex]

28. LOL! Like I am going to believe hearsay from a crackhead!

Oh sorry...methhead!

[Whisp]

29. you made me think of Clintons junk junking...

*pours acid on mind's eye.

[Auntie Bush]

129. Then take your mind off his junk.

See, no more acid in eyes.

[hughee99]

30. So their "evidence" of the affair is a "secret" recording of a third-party drug addict telling

his friends a story? If you want to set the bar of journalism any lower, you're going to need a shovel.

[okaawhatever]

54. That's what upsets me. The source is third, fourth party? Known drug addict supposedly telling

friends about something that happened to someone else.

I don't know too many druggies that can keep a secret for almost 15 years. Even if the tape says what they claim it does, it means nothing. Even a tabloid should have tried to find out if there was anything to this before bringing it up.

[el_bryanto]

31. Is Raderonline a real news source?

It doesn't strike me as so.

Bryant

[MineralMan]

33. It's a celebrity gossip site. And The Globe is total bullshit.

This story should not appear on DU as any sort of news. It's just nasty bullshit.

[el_bryanto]

37. That's what I thought

Was on the jury for this post - if it was coming out of even Fox News it'd be fair game, but this just seems like rehashed 90s bullshit.

Bryant

[MineralMan]

42. Yup. It's all hearsay shit from Sizemore.

His tape is nothing but Sizemore talking. It's total bullshit.

Bill Clinton may have been a philanderer, but nothing about this pack of lies rings even close to true.

[Boomerproud]

51. The Globe has either Clinton dying every week.

it's pathetic. I also saw this on a Reagan site as well. Let 'em stew about it for awhile.

[MineralMan]

32. The Globe and radaronline are not reliable sources.

This is a pure smear piece that is about as clumsy as they get. I think you should self-delete this garbage, frankly.

[Iggo]

45. Tom Sizemore is not a reliable source.

[MineralMan]

49. That, too. In fact, only Sizemore's voice appears on that tape,

where he's bragging to a couple of buddies about something. It's all bullshit hearsay with no backing.

[John1956PA]

107. Your summary is excellent:" It's all bullshit hearsay with no backing."

Now, at 7:09 PM EST, there is a DU thread with a link to a Huffington article reporting that Sizemore admits that the Clinton-Hurley allegation is not true.

Thanks, MineralMan, for calling bullshit on the original story

[hlthe2b]

34. Boy the RW must just be desperate...

I'm damned sick of these attempts to tarnish the wife with the acts of the husband--even while I think this story is BS.

Damned misogynist cretins.

[muriel_volestrangler]

35. With a name like "Tom Sizemore", I presume he's a porn actor

and I think that's the level of reply RadarOnline deserves.

[temporary311]

44. He used to be a fairly decent actor, actually.

It's a shame what addiction has done to him.

[Drew Richards]

39. radaronline? You have got to be kidding me...

[HipChick]

46. This is almost as believable as Christie not knowing anything about the road closings..

[SomethingFishy]

48. Oh Noes! Bill Clinton is a horn dog! Shocking new revelation!

Not sure what the fuck that has to do with his wife...

[Lil Missy]

50. radaronline ..... *yawn*

[MineralMan]

52. How about coming back to your thread and defending why

you posted this nonsense on DU? I can wait.

[Jesus Malverde]

64. The Globe cover is going to be in the face of millions of Americans tomorrow..

I guess we could wait until then to debunk and dispatch it....but thats not how the tubes work.

The first hit of the political season should be ignored.... meh

[MineralMan]

74. Neither source is reliable.

Further, even according to the content at the link, there is nothing more to this than Sizemore's own words. You posted this garbage without even a comment about it.

You don't appear to be debunking anything. You appear to merely be spreading right-wing, anti-Clinton crap without comment.

Both The Globe and radaronline debunk themselves by existing.

Maybe you thought this was funny or over the top. But you simply posted it without comment. Why would this bullshit article be interesting to DU?

This is not a "hit" at all. It's just stupid, unsubstantiated, hearsay nonsense. It doesn't deserve a minute of any serious person's time, and yet, here it is on DU.

I'd encourage you to think a bit before posting and, if you're posting something you also think is nonsense, comment on it to indicate that you recognize that it's garbage. Otherwise, it's very likely that people will think it represents your own opinion. But that's just a suggestion, as is the suggestion that you stick around in threads you start to answer the inevitable questions about the thread.

[AngryAmish]

84. I think that it is out there and laughably false

I don't support Hillary but this helps her in my opinion. This story is so false, so unsupported it taints everything else out there.

Bill is who he is. I have no doubt that there are ex-lovers out there. THis is the sort of thing that is best dealt with early.

[MineralMan]

100. But why do we need to have a thread on it?

That's my question. Unreliable sources and all, you know.

[AngryAmish]

118. oh jeez

It is out there. We are not sugar candy.

[LittleBlue]

53. Wonder if Hillary knew about this

Cuz honestly, I'd be pretty pissed if I were her having to read it in the papers.

[VanillaRhapsody]

58. Maybe she doesn't give a rats ass....

that's her prerogative ....some women don't....to each his own.

[Beacool]

117. Since it never happened, why would she care?

She's used to crap being written about her and her family. Sizemore denied the whole thing. Furthermore, he's never even met Bill or been at the WH.

[AngryAmish]

119. I bet she d3nies being a lizeroid as well.

The TRUTH is out there, man.

[Bigmack]

55. Well... I guess I won't be voting for Hillary, then....

I'll just have to vote for Romney or Cruz or Paul or one of the other Repub douchebags.

Actually...
IF it was true - and it ain't - and if I hated Hillary - and I don't - I'd still vote for her over the best the Repubs can dredge up to run against her.

[Auntie Bush]

57. So we women are responsible for our husbands philandering? I think not!

So why should Hillary? This is an attack on Bill...not Hillary.

[Chorophyll]

61. Hard-hitting political analysis...

from Radar online.

Even if true, who cares?

[dembotoz]

65. it leaves a bad taste and for the undereducated undecided voter that could be enough

could be played by republican as i am just a down home christian just like you, (please give me another hunk of that wonderful apple pie). Now far be it for me to cast dispersions but i am more like the voters in (insert state name here) than that poor fornicating family from new york.

have huck huck huckerbee shake his head a few times and yammer on abothisut that liberal libido.

this could be bad

[Walk away]

105. I think all of those folks are the republican base...

I doubt if anyone with a brain gives a shit.

[Thinkingabout]

69. Considering the sources of these stories which are read in the grocery check out line and

few buy into their crap. It is like listening to FOX for truthful stories, never the truth.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

71. why should I care about this?

why did you post it? What does that have to do with her ability to be President, should she win? What's the point to this?

[Tarheel_Dem]

95. "What's the point to this?"

Oh, I think we both know "the point".

[justiceischeap]

72. You know, this will backfire

people loved a Hillary that stood by her man. Bill punking Hillary yet again? Yeah, I don't see this doing harm.

[Ohio Joe]

73. Well... If it's in The Globe and radaronline, how could it not be true...

Sheesh...

[etherealtruth]

77. Yeah, that would do it

[Exciting Trip]

88. Some pseudoliberals in message boards will recycle old right-wing ways to knock Hillary down

The RW-fringe is not the only type of fringe that hates her.

[ladywnch]

97. I'm sorry. I must be really slow. Can somebody explain to me

how Hilary having an cheating husband 14 years ago negatively impacts her Presidential campaign?

She didn't have an affair....he did.........14 years ago......

Please somebody explain the relevance, the 'bombshell-ness', significance, etc for me.......and please speak in small words since I am obviously of simple mind........gee I wonder if this means I should join the tea party? (cold shudder)

[JI7]

101. isn't Tom Sizemore in prison ?

[PoliticAverse]

104. No, he was on HuffPost live today (with his manager) talking about the tape...

And he denied that the story ever actually happened.

http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment/tom-sizemore-live/52f2b86778c90a72e8000180

[Jesus Malverde]

108. ^^^^Excellent^^^^^

I'm going to add it to the op thanks.

[Cleita]

103. If Bill Clinton bedded all the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders and then some, it

has no bearing at all on Hillary. I don't care for Hillary because of her DLC politics, but I couldn't care less about what Bill does or doesn't do in his rather sleazy personal life. I wouldn't even care if it comes out that Hillary had a tryst with George Clooney or any other number of attractive stars. I'd just think what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Really, the Republicans are only going to make her more popular with these kinds of smears and slanders.

[FSogol]

106. Fuck Rand Paul

[JHB]

109. Somebody call a Doctor!

This one, I think...

[Botany]

110. I smell Rove all over this

n/t

[Jesus Malverde]

111. Might be closer to home...

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http://www.americanmediainc.com/

American Media, Inc. (AMI) owns and operates the leading celebrity and health & fitness media brands in the country. Our magazines have a combined total circulation of 7.1+ million and reach 60+ million men and women each month. Our digital properties reach a total of 31+ million unique visitors and 231+ million page views monthly.

AMI pioneered both the celebrity and health & fitness categories. During the 1960s, the National Enquirer was the first magazine to begin publishing celebrity news and gossip on a weekly basis. Weider Publications (acquired by AMI in 2003) launched the very first health & fitness magazine, Your Physique, in 1940.

Today, AMI’s celebrity titles have the #1 market share in total newsstand circulation in the celebrity category and are the fastest growing brands online. Our health and fitness titles command the #1 market share of national magazine ad pages in their competitive set.

According to wikipedia American media is controlled by...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Altman
Former United States Deputy Secretary of the Treasury who served under Bill Clinton.
Altman has served as advisor to two presidential candidates: John Kerry in 2004, and Hillary Clinton in 2008.

Small world...

[Cleita]

124. It's his M/O, isn't it?

[Beacool]

113. The story is bogus.

Sizemore gave an interview to The Huffington Post saying as much.

It's not true. I was never at the White House. I've never met Bill Clinton," Sizemore told HuffPost Live. "I'm not denying that I said these things. I don't remember saying them, but it's an old video tape and they're the rantings of a guy...that had a very severe drug problem. Although I said it, none of it is true."

Sizemore said he has not spoken with Hurley, with whom he had a previous romantic relationship, but he regrets the trouble he has caused her.

"I'd like to apologize to her for any hurt or B.S. I caused her or the Clintons or anybody else I may have mentioned," he said. "I was like a drunk saying that I was going to be on the Challenger next week.... My perceptions were not the greatest."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/05/hurley-clinton-affair-tom-sizemore-video_n_4733818.html

[RB TexLa]

115. What would this have to do with Hillary?

[Stinky The Clown]

120. And after the break, more Juston Beiber news . . . . .

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

121. I think I know where this idea came from!

[hrmjustin]

137. I love that movie.

[SMC22307]

125. Sizemore has said this is false.

Why are you keeping this post up?

[UTUSN]

126. Having wasted the '90s defending Bill (while OUR AGENDA wasted), is this ALL THEY GOT NOW?!1 nt

[DebJ]

127. All polls showed that Bill would have won a third term as Prez if he could have run,

so maybe this would give Hillary a boost!

I mean, look who the Republicans like to elect: pedophiles and philanderers.

[bluestate10]

132. Bill Clinton's hot zipper was well understood by voters. Voters didn't like Clinton

screwing around, but the majority of voters cared about real issues. As long as Bill Clinton didn't rape someone, I really don't care who he screwed.

[DURHAM D]

134. Did you miss the fact this story is not true?

[Ken Burch]

128. Sizemore has now admitted this was bullshit.

The thread should be locked.

And shame on you for posting a link from any tabloid...those rags have always been insanely hostile to Democrats ever since Generoso Pope invented the format.

[ScreamingMeemie]

130. I think you should delete this thread. He's admitted he lied.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/elizabeth-hurley-slams-bill-clinton-affair-rumors-article-1.1602983

[Lex]

131. Why drag this utter bullshit here?

Seriously, get a grip.

[Agschmid]

135. Self delete this crap.

See the link in this post... http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4451614

[struggle4progress]

136. ?

[DonCoquixote]

138. This is telegraphed GOP bull

In the hopes of making people angry at Bill, because frankly, Bill is still Hill's greatest asset.

Nothing changes...I want a nice bloody primary, one that makes Hill twist leftward even if (and especially if) it hurts! If she wins, I vote for her because the GOP is intolerable.

[RandySF]

139. I actuality find this one hard to believe.

Bill was a great president, but he's always had bad tastes in mistresses. Liz Hurley comes nowhere close to his type.

[pacalo]

140. When are you going to self-delete this?