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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 06:15 PM Mar 2012

Sgt. Bale: Stock Fraud Swindler

I imagine journalists dread "self-debunking" news. D'oh!

[FONT COLOR=GREEN]Yesterday's news...[/FONT COLOR]

[FONT COLOR=darkblue]Patriotism brought suspected shooter Robert Bales into Army [/font color]

In his mind, Staff Sgt. Robert Bales' motives were noble. He enlisted in the Army in the throes of patriotism on Nov. 8, 2001, just two months after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington.

"That is the primary reason he joined," his attorney Emma Scanlan said Sunday.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-03-17/robert-bales-background/53593992/1

[FONT COLOR=GREEN]Today's news...[/FONT COLOR]

Robert Bales, the staff sergeant accused of massacring Afghan civilians, enlisted in the U.S. Army at the same time he was trying to avoid answering allegations he defrauded an elderly Ohio couple of their life savings in a stock fraud, according to federal documents reviewed by ABC News.

"He robbed me of my life savings," Gary Liebschner of Carroll, Ohio told ABC News.

Financial regulators found that Bales "engaged in fraud, breach of fiduciary duty, churning, unauthorized trading and unsuitable investments," according to a report on Bales filed in 2003. Bales and his associates were ordered to pay Liebschner $1,274,000 in compensatory and punitive damages but have yet to do so, according to Liebschner.

"We didn't know where he was," Liebschner told ABC News. "We heard the Bahamas, and all kinds of places." Liebschner says he recognized Bales after news reports named him as the American soldier accused of killing 16 Afghan villagers in a shooting rampage.

http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-murder-suspect-bales-took-life-savings-says-223934030--abc-news.html

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Sgt. Bale: Stock Fraud Swindler (Original Post) cthulu2016 Mar 2012 OP
Crazy. Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #1
yup cthulu2016 Mar 2012 #5
. cthulu2016 Mar 2012 #12
He also assaulted a girlfriend and had a hit and run accident. Not a good man! Logical Mar 2012 #2
OMFG malaise Mar 2012 #3
"And the sergeant came over, pinned a medal on me..." mike_c Mar 2012 #4
I saw one other thread, but I don't know why this isn't getting more run jsmirman Mar 2012 #6
oddly enough, being a con man may cthulu2016 Mar 2012 #7
That does not sound crazy jsmirman Mar 2012 #8
a mass murderer has to snap once, and justs shoots everyone cthulu2016 Mar 2012 #10
there is a great documentary on the subject arely staircase Mar 2012 #15
When I do a word association game in my arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #9
That is a terrible, terrible shame jsmirman Mar 2012 #11
I know, it is a shame and I find I have arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #13
I think you mean jsmirman Mar 2012 #16
Well I'll be damned! All this time I thought arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #17
There is the "Fifth Column" of course, and jsmirman Mar 2012 #20
Because some DU members... USArmyParatrooper Mar 2012 #18
Nobody needs a new reason to do any of that although they keep coming, EFerrari Mar 2012 #21
"Needing" a reason or not USArmyParatrooper Mar 2012 #22
good point cthulu2016 Mar 2012 #23
yeah, but he had a cuncussion arely staircase Mar 2012 #14
Wow. That's a real window into this murderer's character or lack thereof. AtomicKitten Mar 2012 #19

mike_c

(37,058 posts)
4. "And the sergeant came over, pinned a medal on me..."
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 06:26 PM
Mar 2012

"...sent me down the hall, said, "You're our boy."

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
6. I saw one other thread, but I don't know why this isn't getting more run
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 07:00 PM
Mar 2012

here.

This is the crime of a monster.

People who bilk the elderly via, really, anything, but certainly securities fraud, occupy the same rung as child molesters.

This is an evil, evil crime.

I don't know if there will be a response to the story(?), but:

1) This story appears to be supported by something you can't factually fudge - an arbitration award and

2) I don't understand how other news outlets could report on the guy and fail to find something that should be infinitely findable if you're doing your job.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
7. oddly enough, being a con man may
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 07:06 PM
Mar 2012

be a more reliable indicator of sociopathy than killing civilians in war

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
8. That does not sound crazy
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 07:07 PM
Mar 2012

I'd like to see the backing for it, but the level of not caring one whit for other human beings in doing something like this is staggering.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
10. a mass murderer has to snap once, and justs shoots everyone
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 07:11 PM
Mar 2012

But a con-man is continually amoral and lives a 24/7 role of deceit... amoral and atruthful.

Con-man is a personality type. Mass murder is an event.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
15. there is a great documentary on the subject
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 10:02 PM
Mar 2012

"I Am Fishead" Are Corporate Leaders Egotistical Psychopaths ?

arthritisR_US

(7,812 posts)
9. When I do a word association game in my
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 07:09 PM
Mar 2012

mind and the word "journalist" comes up, the next word to pop up is LAZY, hmmm.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
11. That is a terrible, terrible shame
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 07:15 PM
Mar 2012

I partially blame the "race to print," but that race and the conditions of most forms of "success" have led to an unfortunate epidemic of self-selection, in my opinion.

arthritisR_US

(7,812 posts)
13. I know, it is a shame and I find I have
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 09:55 PM
Mar 2012

so little faith in the 5th estate. Pair with that the advent of misinformation from outlets like fox and my cynicism continues unabated.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
16. I think you mean
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 10:21 PM
Mar 2012

the Fourth - what's brutal is that the issues go so far beyond fox and partisanship.

arthritisR_US

(7,812 posts)
17. Well I'll be damned! All this time I thought
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 10:36 PM
Mar 2012

they were the 5th, thanks. I always learn something here

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
20. There is the "Fifth Column" of course, and
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 11:43 PM
Mar 2012

apparently some people claim that blogs and internet writers constitute a "fifth estate." So that's something I learned, too!

USArmyParatrooper

(1,827 posts)
18. Because some DU members...
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 10:44 PM
Mar 2012

were chomping at the bit to use this as an indictment of Obama, the military, the war in Afghanistan or any combination of the three.

If it turns this guy was just simply a murderous bastard it doesn't aid in any of those agendas.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
21. Nobody needs a new reason to do any of that although they keep coming,
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 11:49 PM
Mar 2012

like this week's story that they're sending prisoners out to certain torture.

Report: US sending Afghan detainees to prisons known for torture
http://jurist.org/paperchase/2012/03/report-us-sending-afghan-detainees-to-prisons-known-for-torture.php

USArmyParatrooper

(1,827 posts)
22. "Needing" a reason or not
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 12:07 AM
Mar 2012

the incident with Bales was pounced upon with those agendas in mind.

But (IF) what is reported in your link is true, I can see how the US handing prisoners over to the National Directorate of Security might make you want to them leave - considering once we leave ALL prisoners will end up being sent there.

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