Here's a little fun reading about Hillary Clinton from a conservative

[Pretzel_Warrior]

I'm personally excited to see a time when the U.S. could have 3 Democratic administrations in a row for the first time since Roosevelt/Truman. Hillary can help to ensure GOP doesn't roll back the good work on Obamacare, and she is a credible international figure to represent the United States in foreign policy.

She will fight for women's issues.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/03/16-reasons-why-hillary-clinton-will-win-2016.html#url=/articles/2013/08/03/16-reasons-why-hillary-clinton-will-win-2016.html

Some of the article:

By the standards of “political time,” where in one day a candidate can go from frontrunner to underdog, the 2016 presidential election is decades away. But from this vantage point, all signs point to Hillary Clinton coasting to the Democrat Party nomination and winning the White House.

As a lifelong Republican, I am not pleased with my own prediction—nothing would thrill me more than if a conservative were to win back the presidency. But my political reality instincts lead me to believe the following. (And I’ve been right before: in January 2011, I cowrote “12 Reasons Obama Wins in 2012.”)

Unless there is a radical change of circumstances within the Republican Party and its crop of presidential wannabes, or some unforeseen cataclysmic national event that dramatically alters the current economic and political landscape, or a serious deterioration in her health, Hillary has it locked up.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

1. kick

[Report1212]

2. Instead of focusing on personalities you might focus on issues

And ensure whoever is president will do what you want on those issues. The whole Hillary/Christie bonanza seems to focus an awful lot on personalities and people that voters like but don't really know what they're going to do, which is a good recipe for electing people who don't feel accountable to do anything in particular. Hillary, just fyi, was also a huge backer of the Afghan surge if that tells you anything about her foreign policy credibility.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

3. The Afhan surge was a difficult decision that, based on what I saw, I can support

it was always with a view to trying to roll back Taliban and get the central government into a stronger position to fight Taliban and al queda in the future.

People in their homes behind their computers who aren't confronted with actual tough choices can easily deride any decision or action taken without looking at the alternatives.

Why do you think this is about personality? I'm not even that enamored with Hillary's public persona. I just think she is the most equipped to win and to carry forward the progressive things starting to happen under Obama administration.

[cali]

5. of course you can. You're a team player!

and guess what? It's our job as informed citizens to to judge the decisions politicians make- not just play rah rah rah shit.

Hillary is not a progressive any more than Obama is. And he has stated repeatedly that he's not. Is he a liar, pretz?

[Pretzel_Warrior]

7. I don't need a person to score a green badge of progressivism on every spot to say they are the best

person for the job. Obama is certainly progressive when it comes to equality under the law, working to reduce the cost of health care by revamping the entire system, and winding down wars instead of starting them.

You forget what was going on in early 2009 in Afghanistan and why Obama deliberated and was accused as someone "dithering". Don't worry. It wasn't a progressive who said that. it was Dick Cheney.

[Thinkingabout]

10. I am not a one issue voter as many of my RW friends are, Afghan has had a hisory of

Difficult times and we had a warning from Russia before going but the desire to get bin Laden overpowered our decision. Hillary has shown her desire to get better treatment to women and the Taliban wants to continue to make life miserable for women. Hopefully you will find there is many things Hillary is in favor and it will override this one issue with you.

[cali]

4. Hillary, that corporate juggernaut

would be a nightmare. oh, she'd be better than a repuke, but still a nightmare. She has demonstrated her for shit judgment repeatedly. she has demonstrated that she's willing to sell out the people for her own ambitions. IWR. Afghanistan surge. TPP and TTIP.

Oh, and she was inevitable in 2008 too.

fuck the Hillary bandwagon. May it crash and burn.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

6. I appreciate your Hillary article you linked earlier

let's keep Hillary in the spotlight. I think she learned valuable lessons from how she ran 2008, and she will have the services of many Obama campaign professionals to add to her already venerable staff from the last time.

I think you are way too hard on where Hillary actually stands on most issues.

If Bernie Sanders refuses to become a Dem and run as a Dem and if Senator Warren doesn't run, then who's your top choice?

Or are you in the "Anybody but Hillary" camp and haven't done the work of figuring out who you support?

[cali]

8. lol. hillary will be in the spotlight whatever is written on DU, pretz.

I'm liking O'Malley better than hillary, but there is nothing wrong with opposing Hillary for who she is.

Let's see who emerges.

I have a theory which is not reflected as of yet in the polls, that a large number of people have Hillary fatigue and that the thought of the Clintons- like the thought of the bushes- being back in the WH, is deeply unappealing.

[freshwest]

9. Many things depend on civil rights to alleviate economic and social wrongs... n/t

[Pretzel_Warrior]

11. hear hear

[rhett o rick]

12. Of course H. Clinton-Sachs has it sewn up. She is the choice of The Powers To Be.

We are too easily manipulated by TPTB. The Republicans will run some clown and the Democrats will run a conservative. And since we've been programed to be happy with the lesser of evils, bingo-bango Clinton-Sachs will be our president.

Now some will point out that Clinton-Sachs is progressive on social issues and I wont disagree. So that will be better than whatever Republican TPTB put up. But TPTB dont really care about social issues as long as Clinton-Sachs continues Obama's corporate legacy. Profits are at an all time high and there is no reason to suspect that Clinton-Sachs will change that trend.