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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTexas Gov. Rick Perry links marijuana to murder
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/11/not-joining-the-pot-parade-texas-gov-rick-perry-links-marijuana-legalization-to-murder/I think the fact is it is very important for science to keep playing a most important role in this before we jump to some conclusion, before we run out and get in the front of a parade that is going somewhere because we think it is where the public opinion is, he said.
And I want to share just one thing or make a response to [United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan] about Portugal and the legalization of drugs there. In the five years since that has occurred there, 40 percent increase in the murder rate in that country. Anecdotal, I totally understand that, but the fact is we need to look at all of the data, the science.
The question for me is if the economics of this is what really drives this, and we as a society and government say it is OK for you to smoke marijuana we have decriminalized it basically say that it is OK for you to use, be thoughtful about it, here are the bad things that come from it, what is that going to cost society? I mean, what is the medical cost to this world when we send that message, when influential men and women stand up in front of these young influenceable young people and say it is OK.
First - a TEXAS REPUBLICAN saying science plays the most important role... LOL... this is the same Republican Party in that state that wanted support for creationism in its party platform.
The Portugal remark is reefer madness.
And, funniest of all - since when did Americans look to the government and think they really care about the person who is most likely to be negatively influenced by marijuana's illegal status? (That person most likely to be negatively impacted, btw, is a young African American male.)
walkingman
(7,580 posts)and he is not the longest serving governor for no reason.
As a Texan I am not only embarrassed by Rick Perry but I apologize to the rest of the nation for his actions. It's one thing to screw up a single state but for some reason he feels obligated to spread his particular brand of ignorance around the country.
Thank Goodness he is leaving soon but in all likelihood with be replaced by someone very similar.
As Rick would say, "Pray for us!"
Peace
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Which leads me to "Dial M for Murder"
Which leads me to Murder.
Perry Logic 101
Is he also going to look at the relationship between guns and murder?
That's a big hint for him right there.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)We should deport them all to Oklahoma, thus raising the average IQ of both states.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Governor Hoop and Holler at work shooting a gun in the air.
"It a flower! We gotta stomp it to shit! Yeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!"
Gothmog
(144,920 posts)I really do not care about any of Goodhair's opinions.
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)The same thing it says when you say drinking alcohol is okay?
gopiscrap
(23,726 posts)he can't even remember his own points in a conversation! Fuck him!!!!
Doc Holliday
(719 posts)to go out back of the Capitol building and play a nice game of "hide and go fuck yourself."
Sorry, America....we're working on this, and hope to have it fixed in a few months or so.
Holly_Hobby
(3,033 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)RainDog
(28,784 posts)Too bad it doesn't apply to global climate change, tho.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)angstlessk
(11,862 posts)Portugal continues to see a gradual rise in a majority of its crime categories, including violent offenses. Anecdotally, increased unemployment along with decreased social benefits as a result of the governments response to an ongoing economic crisis, etc. are viewed as contributing factors related to the rise. Attributable in part to population density, Lisbon, Porto (including Braga and Aveiro), Setúbal, and Faro have higher reported incidences of crime.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)but I haven't seen anything. The Drug Treatment Programs had to take budget cuts, but prior to that:
Peter Reuter, a criminologist at the University of Maryland, College Park said, "Drug decriminalization did reach its primary goal in Portugal," of reducing the health consequences of drug use, he says, "and did not lead to Lisbon becoming a drug tourist destination."
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/portugal-drug-decriminalization/
And fewer teens are trying drugs. Strangely, no one in an official capacity at U.S. Drug Agencies wanted to comment on the Portugal report... "because it makes people think legalization is okay." <--- This is the sort of paternalistic bullshit these agencies have adopted in order to keep their jobs, which exist to oppose any policy changes to drug laws. Why do we need a bureaucracy like that? If other options show they produce good outcomes, why must these be denied?
Here's a report on Portugal: http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/evaluating-drug-decriminalization-in-portugal-12-years-later-a-891060.html
Anyway, is this some of the science Perry wants to look at, I wonder?
RainDog
(28,784 posts)"There is no doubt that the phenomenon of addiction is in decline in Portugal," said Joao Goulao, President of the Institute of Drugs and Drugs Addiction, a press conference to mark the 10th anniversary of the law.
The number of addicts considered "problematic" -- those who repeatedly use "hard" drugs and intravenous users -- had fallen by half since the early 1990s, when the figure was estimated at around 100,000 people, Goulao said.
"This development can not only be attributed to decriminalisation but to a confluence of treatment and risk reduction policies.
An OASC Crime Report from 2013 indicates Portugal is not considered a dangerous, crime-ridden nation. So, where did Perry pull his data from? An ass on a camel on Noah's Ark?
Pick pocketing is very common, particularly in tourist areas, and along trains and buses, the best defense is to limit exposure to wallets, purses, backpacks etc., and above all avoid unnecessary distractions.
Small groups of adolescents occasionally (as a group) commit petty thefts and vehicle burglaries around common tourist spots (beaches, cafes, etc).
Vice activities (e.g. gambling, prostitution, and narcotics) exist, but for those who take basic security precautions, Portugal is a moderate threat country. Petty thefts such as pickpockets, smash and grab, residential and business burglaries, and drug offenses are more prevalent in the larger urban areas.
https://www.osac.gov/pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=13669
vanbean
(990 posts)a bunch of munchies.