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Loaded Liberal Dem

(230 posts)
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 09:56 PM Feb 2014

Racism in Jeopardy!

No, I'm sorry to say, that doesn't mean the cancer that has infected this country from the get-go is in any danger of dying its well-deserved death. Instead, I'm referencing tonight's episode of Jeopardy! with Alex Trebek. The show is in the middle of the College tournament, and, this evening, there was an African-American contestant named Kenesha. During the "interview" segment, Trebek made a point of noting that Oakwood University, her school, was an "historically-black college," which the young lady took in stride, apparently taking no offense.

But the very next clue was in the Student Aid category, and referred to the United Negro College Fund. Kenesha rang in, and, before she even responded, Trebek said, "Ooh, you'd better get this one right, Kenesha!" She did, but after that, she seemed to have been thrown off her game, and ended up finishing in third place. (She'd been leading going into the first commercial break.)

WTF, Alex??? I think maybe it's time for you to retire!

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Racism in Jeopardy! (Original Post) Loaded Liberal Dem Feb 2014 OP
Hmmm.....that doesn't come off as racist to me. I think the historical black colleges should okaawhatever Feb 2014 #1
It's a little racist... TeeYiYi Feb 2014 #3
Help me understand, because he mentioned that her school was a historically black college or that okaawhatever Feb 2014 #5
Suggesting that she should know the answer... TeeYiYi Feb 2014 #7
Thanks for explaining it. I guess because the question concerned the United Negro College Fund that okaawhatever Feb 2014 #9
Well, race is a social construct... Deep13 Feb 2014 #27
Perhaps... TeeYiYi Feb 2014 #30
No, one should not assume based on color, but Trebek... Deep13 Feb 2014 #36
Those are the kind of micro-aggressions one has to deal with in this racially insensitive world MrScorpio Feb 2014 #17
Thanks for the insight. nt okaawhatever Feb 2014 #19
Jews get this shit too nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #35
"Yeah, it hurts to miss that one." BadgerKid Feb 2014 #2
Are you serious malaise Feb 2014 #4
i'll have to search for that vid NoGOPZone Feb 2014 #6
She took no offense because "historically black college" is a thing mathematic Feb 2014 #8
No, it's because it was the very next clue. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #10
It wasn't coincidence, my friend Loaded Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #12
He didn't pick the next clue, my friend. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #13
And his admonition to the young lady, before she even gave the correct response? Loaded Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #15
but why is "historically black college" considered something negative ? it's a common term JI7 Feb 2014 #21
yeah that was unnecessary to say Quayblue Feb 2014 #11
I have not yet read the responses to this thread. Jenoch Feb 2014 #14
I've met Alex Trebek. He's a first-rate jerk, unfortunately. Aristus Feb 2014 #16
why would she be "offended" by Trebek calling HBCU's exactly what they are... HBCUs? Number23 Feb 2014 #18
that one wasn't so bad, but the UNCF thing was kinda shaky NatBurner Feb 2014 #25
NatBurner!!! Number23 Feb 2014 #32
i think you are looking for something that isn't there JI7 Feb 2014 #20
I watched and she wasn't "thrown off her game" she started guessing what the questions were MagickMuffin Feb 2014 #22
SEEN THIS? CatWoman Feb 2014 #23
Thank you! Loaded Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #24
A game show is a terrible thing to waste. KamaAina Feb 2014 #26
Alex Trebek is also frequently demeaning to female contestants. He needs to retire. nt Romulox Feb 2014 #28
yea, I was wondering why Alex didn't just stay away from Shankapotomus Feb 2014 #29
It's not like he called Samuel L Jackson Laurence Fishburne bravenak Feb 2014 #31
lol CatWoman Feb 2014 #33
It's my new favorite Sam Jax film. bravenak Feb 2014 #34

okaawhatever

(9,565 posts)
1. Hmmm.....that doesn't come off as racist to me. I think the historical black colleges should
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:13 PM
Feb 2014

be proud of that fact. I would imagine it was quite difficult to start and keep a college going under our atrocious civil rights record. I don't know how funding for colleges went back in the day, but if the college faced the same issues that an individual person of color did, it had to be much harder than starting and running a predominately white college.

Alex frequently says something about how someone should "get a question right" if it involves something of a personal nature. For example someone who grew up in a certain state getting a question about that state. I remember him giving a hard time to a fellow Canadian one time for missing a question about Canada. Turns out they were born there, but raised elsewhere. Alex was not okay with that excuse and I think he made a joke about the contestants parents letting him have it when the contestant spoke to them.

I'd like to think that African-Americans are well aware of the contributions the United Negro College Fund has made, and are familiar with it's history. Especially since this was college week. Anyone my age can tell you that it was the United Negro College Fund that came up with "A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Waste." If their parents were like mine, the slogan was probably used on them every time they did something without thinking.

I don't think racist but I'll see what DU members of color have to say.

okaawhatever

(9,565 posts)
5. Help me understand, because he mentioned that her school was a historically black college or that
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:24 PM
Feb 2014

she should know about the United Negro College Fund? I wonder if he mentioned something about each of the schools. Like UNC-Chapel Hill one of the three oldest state universities.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
7. Suggesting that she should know the answer...
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:38 PM
Feb 2014

...more than the other two, just because she's black. That and Alex having the nerve to say it out loud, even if he was thinking it.

Let me spell it out. In the Student Aid category... the black girl must surely be receiving student aid to go to college, amirite?...wink wink.

Imagine if he said something like that to one of the white players; ie: In the White Slavery Lynching category: "Ooh, you'd better get this one right, white guy!"

TYY

okaawhatever

(9,565 posts)
9. Thanks for explaining it. I guess because the question concerned the United Negro College Fund that
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:53 PM
Feb 2014

he thought she should know it. I guess mentally I've signed on to the idea that AA's all know AA history, like it's a requirement or something. Why do I think that? It's not like white people in this country know history. Time to change my thinking. Thx for the help.

Deep13

(39,157 posts)
27. Well, race is a social construct...
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 01:22 PM
Feb 2014

...and not a function of skin color or any other phenotype. Put of that social construction is that there is a black culture. Part of that culture is historically black universities and scholarships specifically for students at them.

So I'm not sure if this is racist so much as acknowledging that race exists as a social construct.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
30. Perhaps...
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 02:18 PM
Feb 2014

...but the black contestant should not be expected to know more about it just because she's black. Even is she is expected to know more, it should not be said out loud....unless she has stated somehow that she is an expert on black universities and scholarships. It should not be just assumed based on her skin color.

TYY

Deep13

(39,157 posts)
36. No, one should not assume based on color, but Trebek...
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 02:09 AM
Feb 2014

...has background information on each contestant. Suppose that player was from Howard or some other mostly black college and Trebek was aware of it. *shrug*

I would not have brought it up.

MrScorpio

(73,772 posts)
17. Those are the kind of micro-aggressions one has to deal with in this racially insensitive world
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 01:04 AM
Feb 2014

A world where Black people need to deal with this shit and not get thrown off our game by it.

And of course, never point out the problem, because some may just accuse you of playing the so-called "race card," or that you're "angry," or you're "uppity" and the like.

It's not like the woman didn't know she was Black.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
35. Jews get this shit too
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 08:16 PM
Feb 2014

just a tad less often. So I know exactly what you mean.

Or hispanics in the west. Lucky me, I got those two covered.

malaise

(296,098 posts)
4. Are you serious
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:21 PM
Feb 2014

I got that right too.
By the way Kenesha wasn't thrown off her game - she did not know several answers and made stuff up. Funny she volunteered all the religious stuff and sure got the biblical 'final answer' correct.
Trebek is oh so corny - but certainly not racist. I didn't see the racism here - sorry.
By the way I've been watching Jeopardy pre-Trebek - from the 1970s.

NoGOPZone

(2,971 posts)
6. i'll have to search for that vid
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:31 PM
Feb 2014

So I can see whether he was being racist or his usual condescending self

mathematic

(1,610 posts)
8. She took no offense because "historically black college" is a thing
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:49 PM
Feb 2014

Go ahead and google it. You'll learn a lot of interesting things about racism and the history of college educations in the United States.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
10. No, it's because it was the very next clue.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:57 PM
Feb 2014

And it was a pure coincidence that they had been talking about her historically black college when a question about historically black colleges came up.

It was a callback to their conversation, no some racist slide.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
13. He didn't pick the next clue, my friend.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 12:30 AM
Feb 2014

So yes, it was coincidence that it was the next question asked immediately after their conversation.

 

Loaded Liberal Dem

(230 posts)
15. And his admonition to the young lady, before she even gave the correct response?
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 12:46 AM
Feb 2014

Actually, you're quite right: It wasn't a coincidence, it was Trebek's personal choice.

JI7

(93,615 posts)
21. but why is "historically black college" considered something negative ? it's a common term
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 02:10 AM
Feb 2014

used for respected institutions around the country.

Quayblue

(1,045 posts)
11. yeah that was unnecessary to say
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:57 PM
Feb 2014

And that's part of his ignorance he should check himself about.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
14. I have not yet read the responses to this thread.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 12:41 AM
Feb 2014

I did see the Jeopardy! episode today. I did not see the college contestant "...thrown off her game..." after the question came up. I also did not see any problem with the interview segment.

The contestants fill out a form and the producers write up a cheat sheet for Alex to work from. Even if there was a racial problem with this episode, the problem would rest more on the producers rather than Trebek.

By the way, the first commercial break comes so early in Jeopardy! that whomever is leading at that point is mostly not a factor in the outcome of the game.

Did you see this episode yourself? If so, what was the final jeopardy answer?

Aristus

(72,187 posts)
16. I've met Alex Trebek. He's a first-rate jerk, unfortunately.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 12:54 AM
Feb 2014

But I didn't see anything about him in person that smacked of racism.

He's just a self-important asshole.

From what I could see, he was the kind of TV jerk that tends to evolve due to owning at least a portion of the revenue generated by his on-screen likeness. Like Robert Stack or Jack Webb back in the old days.

NatBurner

(2,643 posts)
25. that one wasn't so bad, but the UNCF thing was kinda shaky
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 01:06 PM
Feb 2014

not 'march on washington' offensive, more like a 'lemme touch your hair' sort of thing

i was more upset when they got grandmaster flash mixed up with melle mel

MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
22. I watched and she wasn't "thrown off her game" she started guessing what the questions were
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 02:57 AM
Feb 2014

If you don't know for sure what the correct response is going to be, you better not push the button. Because if you don't know the correct response you lose points/money!

I've seen it happen to all races.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
29. yea, I was wondering why Alex didn't just stay away from
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 01:30 PM
Feb 2014

bringing that up entirely. He doesn't know anything about how the contestant paid for college. I cringed when he went there.

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