Yeah... The CIA Did It...

[WillyT]

A DU Experiment...

In The Washington Post, Exactly One Month To The Day After The Assassination Of President John F. Kennedy

Link to full op-ed: http://www.maebrussell.com/Prouty/Harry%20Truman's%20CIA%20article.html

Limit CIA Role To Intelligence
By Harry S Truman
Copyright, 1963, by Harry S Truman

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For some time I have been disturbed by the way CIA has been diverted from its original assignment. It has become an operational and at times a policy-making arm of the Government. This has led to trouble and may have compounded our difficulties in several explosive areas.

I never had any thought that when I set up the CIA that it would be injected into peacetime cloak and dagger operations. Some of the complications and embarrassment I think we have experienced are in part attributable to the fact that this quiet intelligence arm of the President has been so removed from its intended role that it is being interpreted as a symbol of sinister and mysterious foreign intrigue—and a subject for cold war enemy propaganda.

With all the nonsense put out by Communist propaganda about "Yankee imperialism," "exploitive capitalism," "war-mongering," "monopolists," in their name-calling assault on the West, the last thing we needed was for the CIA to be seized upon as something akin to a subverting influence in the affairs of other people.

I well knew the first temporary director of the CIA, Adm. Souers, and the later permanent directors of the CIA, Gen. Hoyt Vandenberg and Allen Dulles. These were men of the highest character, patriotism and integrity—and I assume this is true of all those who continue in charge.

But there are now some searching questions that need to be answered. I, therefore, would like to see the CIA be restored to its original assignment as the intelligence arm of the President, and that whatever else it can properly perform in that special field—and that its operational duties be terminated or properly used elsewhere.

We have grown up as a nation, respected for our free institutions and for our ability to maintain a free and open society. There is something about the way the CIA has been functioning that is casting a shadow over our historic position and I feel that we need to correct it.

Background...

Truman’s True Warning on the CIA
By Ray McGovern - ConsortiumNews
December 22, 2013

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Fifty years ago, exactly one month after John Kennedy was killed, the Washington Post published an op-ed titled “Limit CIA Role to Intelligence.” The first sentence of that op-ed on Dec. 22, 1963, read, “I think it has become necessary to take another look at the purpose and operations of our Central Intelligence Agency.”

It sounded like the intro to a bleat from some liberal professor or journalist. Not so. The writer was former President Harry S. Truman, who spearheaded the establishment of the CIA 66 years ago, right after World War II, to better coordinate U.S. intelligence gathering. But the spy agency had lurched off in what Truman thought were troubling directions.

Sadly, those concerns that Truman expressed in that op-ed — that he had inadvertently helped create a Frankenstein monster — are as valid today as they were 50 years ago, if not more so.

Truman began his article by underscoring “the original reason why I thought it necessary to organize this Agency … and what I expected it to do.” It would be “charged with the collection of all intelligence reports from every available source, and to have those reports reach me as President without Department ‘treatment’ or interpretations.”

Truman then moved quickly to one of the main things bothering him. He wrote...

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More: http://consortiumnews.com/2013/12/22/trumans-true-warning-on-the-cia/

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1. K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations!

[WillyT]

6. I Hear Ya... But...

There are those that want to know the truth, no matter the truth. I am one of those not satisfied by the "official" story.

There are those that think they KNOW the truth, both Warren Commission supporters, AND conspiracy supporters.

There are also those that NEVER want the truth to come out...

And there are those, who if it could be proven, that there was a conspiracy...

With government, or ex-government people, the Mafia, the CIA... whatever...

Would just as well NOT KNOW.

Some do not like having their lifelong beliefs challenged... or destroyed.

[WillyT]

8. See What I Mean...

[Enthusiast]

13. I see what you mean.

[Mnemosyne]

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3. Rescue kick.

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4. Absolutely biggest kick ever! nt

[wildbilln864]

5. and a kick! n/t

[Octafish]

7. David Talbot is writing a book on this very subject, ''The Devil's Chessboard''...

...he said is the working title. I heard him speak at the JFK "Passing the Torch" Conference at Duquesne.

David Talbot did not mince words in his presentation. He publicly named former CIA director Allen Dulles not only as participant in the cover-up of events concerning CIA in the assassination of President Kennedy, Talbot said Dulles was the chief architect of the assassination.

Mr. Talbot has worked for more than two years on a book that I believe will shake the nation's financial and political establishment to its core. Here are Mr. Talbot's words, outlining why:

...I think what we're going to show over the next few years is that Allen Welsh Dulles was much more centrally involved in the assassination of President Kennedy, and its cover-up, than Lee Harvey Oswald.

Fifty years later, it's finally time to give the man his rightful place in history. In his day, Allen Dulles was America's most legendary spymaster, the longest-serving director of the CIA. He took great pleasure in regaling the public about his espionage triumphs. But, for obvious reasons, he could never take credit for his biggest and boldest covert operation:
the killing of the President of the United States in broad daylight on the streets of an American city.

I hope that my forthcoming book, which will be titled "The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, JFK and the Epic Battle for America's Soul" will at long last give Mr. Dulles his due. As I say in my title of my remarks this morning, I believe Allen Dulles truly was the "Chairman of the Board of the Kennedy Assassination."

In September 1965, nearly two years after Kennedy was violently removed from office, Allen Dulles went for a stroll near his home in Georgetown with a young magazine editor named William Morris. The old spymaster, long since retired, struck Morris as an amiable, avuncular character until the name Kennedy suddenly came up in the conversation. Suddenly a dark cloud crossed the old man's brow.

"That little Kennedy," he spat out. "He thought he was a god."

Allen Dulles knew who the true overlords of American power were. (They were) men like him and his brother, not Jack and Bobby Kennedy. The Kennedys were mere upstarts in comparison to the Dulles family. The Dulles dynasty boasted diplomats and international bankers and three secretaries of state. The Kennedy clan, by comparison, was distinguished by saloon keepers and ward healers. When paterfamilias Joseph Kennedy was amassing his fortune as a movie mogul and stock gambler, Dulles and his older brother were running Wall Street from their perch at the world's largest law firm, Sullivan and Cromwell and creating a new global financial order.

During the Cold War, President Eisenhower outsourced the country's foreign policy to the Dulles Brothers, with Secretary of State John Foster Dulles serving as the architect of Washington's global crusade against communism, and Allen Dulles carrying out the darker chores of empire.

Soviet leader Nikita Krushchev who kept looking for a way out of the Cold War noose but found himself repeatedly checkmated by the Dulleses remarked at one point, "One shuddered at what great force was in the Dulles Brothers' hands."

The Dulles Brothers stood at the very apex of American power, straddling an elite network that connected Wall Street, Washington, big oil and international finance. John Foster Dulles was the ultimate counselor for that overworld that ruled the country's government and business, and his younger brother Allen was at privileged circles master of intrigue and subversion, its enforcer...

Thanks, WillyT! It was like hearing the pages of DU read aloud in the halls of academia. MORE INFO...

[WillyT]

9. Wow... Thank You For That...

[WillyT]

10. Last Kick From Me...

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11. kick n/t

[WillyT]

12. Ya Know... Normally, There Would Be A Lot Of Resistance To A Thread Like This...

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14. Ignoring it is just as effective.

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15. worse maybe. n/t

[Octafish]

16. ‘The CIA killed Kennedy,’ says ex-agent (Antonio Veciana)

by Jefferson Morley
JFKFacts.org, Jan. 27, 2014

Rejecting conspiracy theories implicating Cuban leader Fidel Castro, a former militant foe of the Cuban government, said in a newspaper interview last week that his former allies at the CIA were behind the assassination of President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963.

Veciana’s statements are significant because he is known to have worked closely with the CIA for many years fighting the Castro regime. He has also long asserted that he saw a CIA man whom he knew as ‘Maurice Bishop’ in the company of Lee Harvey Oswald in September 1963, two months before Oswald allegedly shot and killed Kennedy.

Veciana’s statements put him in agreement with one of his life-long enemies, Fabian Escalante, retired chief of counterintelligence for the Cuba’s CIA, known as the Diregencia General de Inteligencia, or DGI. Escalante has said the DGI concluded the CIA and Cuban exiles were behind JFK’s assassination.

Here’s the original story: “A Kennedy lo mató la CIA”, asegura exagente de la CIA | Diario las Americas.

Here’s a rough Google machine translation, not for quotation: ‘The CIA killed Kennedy,” says ex-CIA agent.

SOURCE w/links n/details: http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/news/anti-castro-militant-the-cia-killed-kennedy/

Who is Antonio Veciana? The great DUer John Simkin wrote about him
here.



I doubt he's still friends with Porter Goss, from back in the Operation 40 day.

[WillyT]

17. Thanks Again...

[Octafish]

18. "Maurice Bishop...was David Atlee Phillips"

A CTKA Staff Report

Posted December 2, 2013

When he first confirmed that David Atlee Phillips was the CIA contact known as "Maurice Bishop," Cuban exile leader Antonio Veciana did so tacitly. But Veciana's meaning was so clear, and his guile so transparent, there was no doubt; both he and House Select Committee investigator Gaeton Fonzi began laughing.


Now, decades later, Veciana has explicitly stated that Phillips (right) was indeed Bishop, and that he did indeed see Phillips with Lee Harvey Oswald in September 1963 – thus formally linking a high ranking CIA officer with the JFK assassination.

Veciana's admission came in a written statement issued November 22, 2013, the fiftieth anniversary of the assassination. In a letter to Fonzi's widow Marie, Veciana, the elderly, former leader of Alpha 66, said, "Maurice Bishop, my CIA contact agent was David Atlee Phillips. Phillips or Bishop was the man I saw with Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas on September 1963."

Fonzi wrote of his encounters with Veciana in his 1993 book The Last Investigation, which describes his experience with the House Select Committee on Assassinations in the 1970s.

At the time of his first meetings with Veciana, Fonzi was a staff investigator for Sen. Richard Schweiker (R-Pa.), a member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and co-chair of the Sub-committee on the John F. Kennedy Assassination. Fonzi told Veciana he was exploring links between government agencies and Cuban exile groups.

On March 2, 1976, Veciana told Fonzi that two months before the assassination he rendezvoused with his CIA contact "Maurice Bishop" in the lobby of a downtown Dallas office building. Bishop was already there when he arrived, Veciana said, and in the company of a young man he later recognized as Lee Harvey Oswald, the alleged JFK assassin.

CONTINUED...

http://www.ctka.net/2013/veciana.html

PS: You are most welcome, WillyT! Thank you for grokking what this is about.

PPS: Many years ago, I had the good fortune to lunch with a fellow reporter and a lawyer he knew who was visiting Detroit. The lawyer had served as on one of the House investigations in the 1970s that looked at the assassination of President Kennedy -- looking back, I no longer think the guy was with the HSCA, but perhaps was with Gary Hart and Richard Schweiker on the Senate side. Anyway, we talked about the S&Ls and what our work had uncovered. I then asked him if he thought the CIA had done it. The guy shot me a look before he answered that told me the answer. What came out of him mouth, however, was that there was a lot of evidence that they could not pursue 15 years or so earlier. Now, here we are on DU, more than 20 years after that lunch, and we are just starting to catch up to what our elected representatives knew -- but did not pursue, for whatever reason. Thankfully, people like that attorney have stood up -- like Dan Hardway from the HSCA in the quote in a reply above. Most of what many are just now starting to learn, has been investigated and remembered by the People, a few at first, but more and more and more as time has gone on. Ripples.

[WillyT]

19. WOW !!! - Damned Good Info !!!

Thank you.