Ukraine Koch Brothers Unite With American Koch Brothers to Destabilize BOTH Governments?

[Fred Sanders]

Are American Organizations Agitating In Ukraine?

(Are Americans Being Misled By The Mass Media About The Protests?)

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/02/are-american-organizations-agitating

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On its face, this looks to be a righteous endeavor on the part of the rebels. However, the more I read about it, the less enthusiastic I am, especially when I see comments like this from think tanks like Cato:

"The changes that occurred after the Orange Revolution weren't simply deep enough. This time around, it appears that the disenchantment is so strong that there is a genuine opportunity to make a fresh start," said Dalibor Rohac, policy analyst with the Cato Institute's Center for Global Liberty and Prosperity.

"For Ukrainians this is a chance to get on a different trajectory from the one the country has been on for the past 22 years and become eventually a part of prosperous, democratic Europe."

From April 2012 to March 2013, the Cato Institute sent $245,000 in grants to what they describe as Russia/Independent States on their most recent tax filing with the IRS. Other conservative libertarian groups like Freedomworks and even the for-profit Breitbart.com "news" organizations are expanding operations globally to influence elections in favor of conservatives.

The Ukrainian oligarchs are standing by their man, but perhaps they're not interested in competing with American oligarchs. Here are some details on who owns the Ukraine:

Ukraine’s oligarchs got rich during the privatization sales of former Soviet-owned industries and factories shortly after independence in 1991. The country’s main industries of mining, metals, chemical production, and energy distribution were snatched up by individuals, who then reaped millions in profits.

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In December, Koch Industries acquired Molex for $7.2 billion. Molex is a global company which maintains business centers in Ukraine, Russia, Poland and other European countries. The acquisition does not necessarily suggest anything untoward, but the Molex acquisition was the first I found with operations in that country. Would there be a vested interest in exacerbating the underlying conflict in order to create enough chaos to dislodge the oligarchs?

I don't know. I do find it curious that countries with dangerous levels of unrest -- Ukraine, Venezuela and Thailand -- are struggling under the burden of oligarchies, inequality and corruption, something the libertarian Kochs know a lot about.

Perhaps this statement from Koch Industries' press release about the Molex acquisition reveals more than they intended:

"We’re looking forward to applying our Market-Based Management philosophy at Molex to help identify and capture additional opportunities.”

These protesters need to be careful not to trade one set of oligarchs for another.

[sabrina 1]

1. The answer to your question is 'yes', Americans are once again, being misled by the Corporate Media

on the Ukraine and on Caracas. In fact by now we should know that whatever we are being fed by the Corporate Propaganda machine requires our first reaction to be 'yeah, right' and then go to more credible sources to get the real story.

The Ukrain Govt did not want to join the EU. The Government was elected and had a right to make that decision, and imho, it's time for several EU countries to opt out of the EU which appears to have done nothing BUT enslave them in debt, see Greece, Spain, Ireland etc.

The US and their EU allies, Merkel and Goldman Sacks appointees, some installed in governments over there, naturally find it unacceptable for a country to refuse to participate in the corporate agenda.

Same issues in Venezuela, we want control of their oil, Chavez took control of the country's resources, we hated him for that, and now want it all back, along with some 'compliant' installed puppet, like Pinochet eg, which worked very well for Western Imperialist interests in Latin American, but not so great for the people of the region. I have little doubt that like Syria, the Ukraine and Venezuela, and everywhere else we have 'interests', we are involved in pushing these, now tragically deadly 'uprisings'. Same thing in Egypt where we lost our 'best friend and dictator, Mubarak, and that could not be tolerated.

[dipsydoodle]

2. The main issue in Ukraine is cash flow.

The $15 billion on the table from Russia has yet to be matched by any others. Without that amount Ukraine would be skint by 2015 latest unable to buy imports and in default of bond repayments due meantime - their foreign reserves are already low. The gap would doubtless be filled by Goldman Sachs and Co secured against state assets and at high interest rates to match the risk in which Ukraine would in effect become foreign owned.

[woodsprite]

5. If the Brothers Koch saved their pocket change for a week, they

could meet and raise the Russians by triple that figure.

[riderinthestorm]

3. The US is meddling, we know that

Having caught Victoria Neuland in the act of "diplomacy" *cough in regards to Ukraine and the EU.

It would be really interesting to follow the money trail back from the State Department to... the Koch brothers??

Things that make you go hmmmm

[kenny blankenship]

4. Additional perspectives:

http://www.correntewire.com/ends_justify_means_craven_us_strategy_re_russia_syria#more

Follow the links therein, especially:
Thierry Meyssan
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37659.htm
Pepe Escobar
http://atimes.com/atimes/World/WOR-02-140214.html

[Tommy_Carcetti]

6. Or maybe Ukrainians are just sick of government corruption and Russian meddling.

Ever think that might have something to do with it?

[freshwest]

7. Bookmarking. Important read. n/t