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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 12:20 PM Feb 2014

Ted Nugent Calls Obama ‘SUBHUMAN MONGREL’, CNN’s Wolf Blitzer FLIPS OUT

Wolf Blitzer Detailed Rant Nazi Origins Ted Nugent Subhuman Mongrel Obama Remark




Wolf & Newt spar over Nugent controversy





On Tuesday’s edition of CNN’s Wolf, host Wolf Blitzer addressed in great detail the Nazi past of ‘subhuman mongrel‘ used by rocker Ted Nugent to describe President Barack Obama. With Texas gubernatorial candidate Greg Abbott (R-TX) already facing criticism over campaigning with ‘sexual predator’ Ted Nugent at his side, Wolf Blitzer wondered if the Abbott campaign was aware of Nugent’s use of racially loaded term ‘subhuman mongrel’. Speaking with Wayne Slater of the Dallas Morning News, Blitzer pointed out, “That’s what the Nazis called Jews to justify the genocide of the Jewish community.



“They called them ‘untermenschen,’ subhuman mongrels, if you read some of the literature that the Nazis put out there, there is a long history of that specific phrase he used involving the President of the United States.” Slater responded that it was a phrase that is “deeply offensive, to some voters, and not just Democratic voters, but other voters,” before adding “might that phrase be a kind of dog whistle, and code to exactly some of the voters that Greg Abbott wants?” Blitzer then went on to quote Nazi propagandist Julius Streicher who wrote: ‘The Jew is a mongrel. He has hereditary tendencies from Aryans, Asiatics, Negroes, and from the Mongolians. Evil always preponderates in the case of a mongrel.’ Blitzer went to wonder if Nugent is aware of the history of the phrase and whether the Texas Republicans know “what this means to so many people out there?’






http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/19/ted-nugent-calls-obama-subhuman-mongrel-cnns-wolf-blitzer-flips-out/
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Ted Nugent Calls Obama ‘SUBHUMAN MONGREL’, CNN’s Wolf Blitzer FLIPS OUT (Original Post) Segami Feb 2014 OP
Anybody want to Baker Act this asshole? shenmue Feb 2014 #1
How do You Baker Act a Person? Segami Feb 2014 #6
The cops can do it here in FL. Any doctor. I've heard of bastard shrinks who would Maraya1969 Feb 2014 #75
Wolf cut Nugent a lot of slack. Gormy Cuss Feb 2014 #2
And he let Newt use the tried and tested deflection zeemike Feb 2014 #22
No. He did a good job of redirecting back to this issue Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #27
I wish there was a "fact checker" for these programs when these recon people make things up. Maraya1969 Feb 2014 #77
+++++ mopinko Feb 2014 #110
Just think..if Ted had called the President any other nasty term, Wolf wouldn't have blinked an eye. kelliekat44 Feb 2014 #83
Indeed! dawn frenzy adams Feb 2014 #128
Congrats to Wolf Blitzer for actually practicing journalism. bullwinkle428 Feb 2014 #3
that's just what I was thinking. gopiscrap Feb 2014 #111
If Turd Agent had great money or power, Wolf would be silent. AAO Feb 2014 #123
Stupid washed-up "rocker" jsr Feb 2014 #4
Isn't he supposed to be dead or in jail or something? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #26
Either dead or have left the country. HE PROMISED if the POTUS was relected! maddiemom Feb 2014 #30
that makes him a coward / liar too!! lunasun Feb 2014 #51
I would love to be the one who asks him that question. "Excuse me but you said Maraya1969 Feb 2014 #76
Yeah, Ted raises our hopes with promises Fortinbras Armstrong Feb 2014 #99
Can we get a twofer? Gary 50 Feb 2014 #109
Sounds good to me N/t Fortinbras Armstrong Feb 2014 #118
Rest assured Nugent will never make it into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He will watch... Tikki Feb 2014 #60
Based on his music alone he is undeserving. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #64
Nugent's been around as long as Hendrix,Beck,Clapton,Page and Townshend. He's not fit to breathe argyl Feb 2014 #114
All volume and bombast Zambero Feb 2014 #122
A mediocre writer, an adequate guitarist (if you go for his playing style) and a pathetic human Mike Daniels Feb 2014 #125
Whatever value Nugent had left for the Repugs just went to zero, forever. reformist2 Feb 2014 #5
No... He will still be put on the air... Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #8
But when it takes on anti-Semitic overtones, it gets a lot dicier starroute Feb 2014 #18
Sadly... No Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #24
no, it really doesn't. Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #96
Are you kidding? The Republican base loves this stuff. Watch and see. Scuba Feb 2014 #9
Sad, but true.... daleanime Feb 2014 #12
No. Even Repug leaders know that kind of stuff is poison in the general election, even in Texas. reformist2 Feb 2014 #17
You mean the teabagger leaders? That's who runs the party now. No, they love it and it is not AlinPA Feb 2014 #59
Agree. The GOP loves this kind of talk and I would not be surprised if they use more of it. AlinPA Feb 2014 #58
Only because they are Nazis in spirit. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #65
No kidding! Tell a Republican gun nut the truth about Ted Nugent and how B Calm Feb 2014 #105
Fox will use the "Democrats have their celebrities who say stupid things" defense Mike Daniels Feb 2014 #126
I wouldn't be surprised if Nugent had no idea of the phrases' history. Marr Feb 2014 #7
I was thinking that too. Regardless, he knows it's a racist thing to say. arcane1 Feb 2014 #10
He's NOT stupid by far. Segami Feb 2014 #11
Seriously have to agree. 2naSalit Feb 2014 #14
I was in H.S. when nugent became popular. dotymed Feb 2014 #40
I saw what he snorts back around 1989... zappaman Feb 2014 #53
... 2naSalit Feb 2014 #54
oh yes zappaman Feb 2014 #56
Hey! MyOwnPeace Feb 2014 #69
Greg Abbot is not running a smart campaign Gothmog Feb 2014 #13
I hope you are right justabob Feb 2014 #32
Rethugs did the same thing to Ann Richards. Dawson Leery Feb 2014 #55
I lived in Texas during the summer of 1990. GreenEyedLefty Feb 2014 #79
Don't think so. Remember, this is the same state that WANTS to secede from the union. LenaBaby61 Feb 2014 #102
The GOP has institutionalized bigotry. Politicub Feb 2014 #15
Wow, I'm absolutely shocked! Scootaloo Feb 2014 #16
Wolf Blitzer's parents are Holocaust survivors Ino Feb 2014 #46
Uh...The term needs no Nazi connection to be in and of itself DESPICABLE!! WTH is wrong with CNN??? WinkyDink Feb 2014 #19
it is made all the more despicable by its long associations with genocide and Nazis cali Feb 2014 #21
Precisely. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #66
Point taken. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #72
...and what was with the guy who was being interviewed being so hesitant to say this might be Chakab Feb 2014 #28
That's the problem with GOPer strategy: The kind of voter... Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #101
I know someone who watches CNN.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #38
Very true... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #39
Republican values The Wizard Feb 2014 #20
Talk about subhuman mongrels........ Beacool Feb 2014 #23
And dogs, unlike Nugent... 3catwoman3 Feb 2014 #44
sexist and racist gun humping creeps Skittles Feb 2014 #61
You know if Hillary is ever elected.... yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #86
It wouldn't be anything new. Beacool Feb 2014 #92
Republicans aren't using yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #130
It's not just Republicans. Beacool Feb 2014 #131
Nugent is a pedophile Major Nikon Feb 2014 #112
Wow, just wow!!! Beacool Feb 2014 #115
It's a safe bet that Courtney Love isn't the only pre-teen Nugent has raped Major Nikon Feb 2014 #116
The guy is a sicko. Beacool Feb 2014 #117
The GOP--pissing off and alienating voters each and every day Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #25
"Why you ... you ... lpbk2713 Feb 2014 #29
The GOPers appears to evolve into pure insanity Iliyah Feb 2014 #31
Wolf finally reached his limit. Finally. Good job, Wolf. Nt Hekate Feb 2014 #33
But, but.....but Cleita Feb 2014 #34
LOL!!! Hey Wolfy! How's that "both sides do it" thing workin' out fer ya? Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #35
Here's my definition of Subhuman Mongrels - men who are pedophile, pants-shitting, draft dodgers... LynneSin Feb 2014 #36
We call them draft doging pedophile pant-shitters. Greg Abbott calls them his base.nt Snotcicles Feb 2014 #104
is she a subhuman mongrel ted? SummerSnow Feb 2014 #37
Good one! nt mimi85 Feb 2014 #42
Get your stinkin' paws off her! Iwillnevergiveup Feb 2014 #94
Good for Wolf and mimi85 Feb 2014 #41
Newt, when asked if he would do that, "No, but...". that actually means "yes". berni_mccoy Feb 2014 #43
Years ago....... MyOwnPeace Feb 2014 #70
Of course he knew what he... one_voice Feb 2014 #45
he should speak for himself TimeToEvolve Feb 2014 #47
Only reason Nugent doesn't walk on all fours is peer pressure. DinahMoeHum Feb 2014 #48
He is a disgrace to the human race. City Lights Feb 2014 #49
This debate is a good start. Dawson Leery Feb 2014 #50
Why isn't he dead or in jail?? HE PROMISED!!! bravenak Feb 2014 #52
Everything coming out it certainly does. QuestForSense Feb 2014 #91
Politicians like Greg Abbott use such idiots to say what they can't say publically. Coyotl Feb 2014 #57
This is the kind of language used in elections in the Jim Crow South. LuvNewcastle Feb 2014 #62
Really? How many are there? MyOwnPeace Feb 2014 #71
Hey, Newt, you insensitive fuck, it goes beyond wrong. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #63
Newt is a Republican party apologist davidpdx Feb 2014 #80
Gingrich is the Master bully, and perfected the Bully Dynamic... Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #103
Newt Gingrich is a despicable person. boston bean Feb 2014 #67
Nugent ... napkinz Feb 2014 #68
No better person to defend Nugent than Newt ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #73
Someone said that Ted Nugent had serious pedophile tendencies? Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #74
You can read about it leftynyc Feb 2014 #108
Thanks for the article. I'm of the belief that pedophiles need a little ass-kickin now and then... Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #119
Yes. They're shocked. Even after the 300th time they've aired it. lindysalsagal Feb 2014 #78
Can we retire the word "rant" at some point? Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #81
Since Newt is a lying sack of shit... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #82
id wash his mouth out with soap allan01 Feb 2014 #84
So what Newt is saying is "Both sides do it" yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #85
That is a common Republican response to criticism and almost merrily Feb 2014 #90
I just emailed CNN about letting Gingrich get away with a lie about Biden and I want proof about Boomerproud Feb 2014 #95
I used to email Tim Russert just about every Sunday. merrily Feb 2014 #98
Its kinda like a FOX NEW meme.... yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #129
Nugent is a nougat -- oldandhappy Feb 2014 #87
Jeff in Milwaukee is exactly right and here is the video fierce_liberal Feb 2014 #88
Nugent is a has been asshole who was not much at the height of his career. merrily Feb 2014 #89
How can Wolf be so stupid or naive as to not know why Crap Stain throws slurs around? Rex Feb 2014 #93
That nutgent a-hole is not dead or in jail yet like he predicted? Amonester Feb 2014 #97
Blitzer asked the question "Do they know what the phrase means?" Fortinbras Armstrong Feb 2014 #100
What annoyed me most about the entire brouhaha was Abbott's response Vinca Feb 2014 #106
Nugent joins a long list of reTHUG chicken hawks. Segami Feb 2014 #107
Thanks for that list! Very informative. Rex Feb 2014 #113
Giving them the rope with which to hang themselves Zambero Feb 2014 #120
Where is the ... adavid Feb 2014 #121
nugent is a coward. period heaven05 Feb 2014 #124
Newt needs.. HoosierCowboy Feb 2014 #127
 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
6. How do You Baker Act a Person?
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 12:41 PM
Feb 2014
If a person will not voluntarily be examined by a mental health professional to determine their mental health condition, you can Baker Act them. To do this, you must first go to the Court Clerk's office, fill out the appropriate paperwork for an Order signed by the judge to mandate an officer to escort a person to a facility for a mental evaluation. Certain criteria must be met, for instance, they seem to be a danger to themselves or others and the care of themselves is in question if left alone. You can find more information here:

http://www.clerk.co.okeechobee.fl.us/Baker_act.htm



Maraya1969

(22,479 posts)
75. The cops can do it here in FL. Any doctor. I've heard of bastard shrinks who would
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:30 PM
Feb 2014

baker act people who were there to see her in her office.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
2. Wolf cut Nugent a lot of slack.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 12:37 PM
Feb 2014

I have little doubt that Nugent understands the loaded history of "subhuman mongrel."
He and other white supremacists think their race is superior after all.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
22. And he let Newt use the tried and tested deflection
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:49 PM
Feb 2014

Of accusing the other side of doing it too...as if it were equal to saying the president is a subhuman mongrel.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
27. No. He did a good job of redirecting back to this issue
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:55 PM
Feb 2014

A d how stupid this statement and this candidate are. Of course he's not going to cut Newt's mic and Newt will eventually get his talking points in. But not before Wolf hammered him.

Better than typical Wolf.

Maraya1969

(22,479 posts)
77. I wish there was a "fact checker" for these programs when these recon people make things up.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:39 PM
Feb 2014

Like saying Al Gore said something to a black church about them all ending up behind bars or something. I highly doubt that was said.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
83. Just think..if Ted had called the President any other nasty term, Wolf wouldn't have blinked an eye.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 12:24 AM
Feb 2014

dawn frenzy adams

(429 posts)
128. Indeed!
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 03:11 PM
Feb 2014

Wolf is outraged because Nugent said something coined in Nazi Germany. Nugent also ridiculed Blitzer's journalistic abilities. This is why he's so upset. After all, the Republicans have called the president numerous names that can be considered racist. Thug and gangster, for example. When you think about the depictions of President Obama as a pimp. Hitler, witchdoctor, monkey, etc., etc., they were all propagated in the Mainstream Media. CNN is very much part of the trashing of the President. In the history of television nothing has ever appeared as viscous as those depictions we've seen of President Obama. There was a reason why posters of Bush was censored by the media. Those that control the media knew they would hurt the President. I have no doubt that the obsessive, real to real airing, of those ugly posters displayed by the Teaparty, contributed to folks sitting out the 2010 Midterm;-thus ushering in the Teaparty Congress.

Obviously, Wolf wasn't too outraged, because he selected Newt Gingrich , who is a racist himself. Let's not forget when Newt passed out literature in the late 1980's encouraging fellow Republican candidates to use words like welfare, quotas, and crime. Wolf is angry because Nugent, in his mind, offended Jewish people. I don't think he gives a damn about President Obama

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
3. Congrats to Wolf Blitzer for actually practicing journalism.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 12:37 PM
Feb 2014

I guess there's a first time for everything!

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
30. Either dead or have left the country. HE PROMISED if the POTUS was relected!
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:04 PM
Feb 2014

Unfortunately no follow up so far.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
51. that makes him a coward / liar too!!
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 03:13 PM
Feb 2014

washed up rocker- stand by your publicly declared word ass hole ...do one or the other as promised

Maraya1969

(22,479 posts)
76. I would love to be the one who asks him that question. "Excuse me but you said
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:37 PM
Feb 2014

that if certain circumstances came to pass you were going to be dead or in jail by now? Please tell when that is going to happen since many of us are looking forward to it."

Gary 50

(381 posts)
109. Can we get a twofer?
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:41 AM
Feb 2014

Dead and in Jail. It would take weeks for the stench to disappear after he was buried.

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
60. Rest assured Nugent will never make it into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He will watch...
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 04:02 PM
Feb 2014

musicians and bands who came before him be inducted and those young musicians who have come after
get inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Many of these musicians will have a body of work that stands in complete opposition to everything Nugent
stands for in both his personal life and their lyric and some will be marginally within his scope of hate and
bigotry…and, maybe, a few of this later group may find their way into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame…

...but Nugent won't find his way into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, ever, never.


Tikki

argyl

(3,064 posts)
114. Nugent's been around as long as Hendrix,Beck,Clapton,Page and Townshend. He's not fit to breathe
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:00 AM
Feb 2014

the same air as them. A two bit hack for shit player. I couldn't stand the SOB's playing way back in the late 60's before I knew what a dickhead he was.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
122. All volume and bombast
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 12:02 PM
Feb 2014

Musical chops and finesse never entered the picture with this guy. Small wonder he needed to "reinvent" himself as a right-wing psychopath when the fan base eventually dried up.

Mike Daniels

(5,842 posts)
125. A mediocre writer, an adequate guitarist (if you go for his playing style) and a pathetic human
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 12:25 PM
Feb 2014

It's sucks that fate bestows riches and fame (for a time) to hacks like Nugent while superior talents like Richard Thompson and Nick Cave (while far from struggling) remain "cult" artists to a certain degree.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
5. Whatever value Nugent had left for the Repugs just went to zero, forever.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 12:40 PM
Feb 2014

It's hard to see how even Fox could have him on again - even if he apologizes.

Ohio Joe

(21,755 posts)
8. No... He will still be put on the air...
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 12:45 PM
Feb 2014

The right wing is open and proud of their racism these days... They have been since President Obama was elected. Even comments like this barely get a blip on the 'news'.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
18. But when it takes on anti-Semitic overtones, it gets a lot dicier
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:39 PM
Feb 2014

It's a sad fact that you seem to be able to get away with anti-black and anti-Hispanic rhetoric these days -- but anything that evokes Nazis, the Holocaust and anti-Semitism in general still pushes the outrage button. I assume that's what Blitzer was reacting to, and it could make even the right wary of being associated with Nugent.

Ohio Joe

(21,755 posts)
24. Sadly... No
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:51 PM
Feb 2014

Abbott is simply claiming he knows nothing about the comments, so it's all good. Little to nothing is being said about this (besides here at DU) and the gun nuts will continue to use racist ted to promote their insanity.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
59. You mean the teabagger leaders? That's who runs the party now. No, they love it and it is not
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 03:52 PM
Feb 2014

poison to the GOP in Texas or anywhere else, even PA. It works for them.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
58. Agree. The GOP loves this kind of talk and I would not be surprised if they use more of it.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 03:50 PM
Feb 2014

Nugent's statements about the President fits perfectly with the GOP base and their teabagger leaders.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
105. No kidding! Tell a Republican gun nut the truth about Ted Nugent and how
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:00 AM
Feb 2014

he avoided the draft by shitting in his pants and suddenly they can't hear you. .

Mike Daniels

(5,842 posts)
126. Fox will use the "Democrats have their celebrities who say stupid things" defense
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 12:30 PM
Feb 2014

Ignoring the reality that Democratic party leaders will publically speak out against a left-leaning celebrity if the celebrity says something particularly offensive and generally Democratic party politicians also don't go chasing endorsements from celebrities who have a history of making offensive statements.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
7. I wouldn't be surprised if Nugent had no idea of the phrases' history.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 12:44 PM
Feb 2014

But it's just as bad if he didn't know.

There is a reason such a phrase would be floating around in his vocabulary. He mixes with, or reads materials from, groups that are influenced by Nazi, racial supremacist propaganda.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
10. I was thinking that too. Regardless, he knows it's a racist thing to say.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 12:59 PM
Feb 2014

But I wouldn't be surprised if he's too stupid to know the phrase's origins.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
11. He's NOT stupid by far.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:12 PM
Feb 2014

I'm sure he's well versed with such hate-filled terms considering the gun-toting, supremacist environment he romps in.

To think otherwise would be underestimating his underlying, racist tact.

2naSalit

(86,586 posts)
14. Seriously have to agree.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:34 PM
Feb 2014

He may have destroyed most of his brain cells - especially those required for independent cognition but he was, at one time, pretty smart. My former brother-in-law went t high school with him and told me (this was back in 70s) that he was pretty smart... they were competitors in the guitar player realm. The bil had it all over Ted with talent though and was not into the headbanger noise Ted was/is all about.

I think all those drugs and narcissism has removed any kind of intellect the guy may have had. Wouldn't be surprised if he snorts gunpowder.

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
40. I was in H.S. when nugent became popular.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:26 PM
Feb 2014

Maybe there was a reason that I couldn't stand him or his music back then...and I rocked...lol

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
56. oh yes
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 03:31 PM
Feb 2014

nothing like being told to go downstairs and give some shady guy some cash for a brown bag, bring it back up, and watch a drug free rock star and producer snort the shit out of the contents.

Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
13. Greg Abbot is not running a smart campaign
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:27 PM
Feb 2014

I really believe that Nugent and the abortionbarbie crap is going to backfire on Greg

justabob

(3,069 posts)
32. I hope you are right
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:05 PM
Feb 2014

I do think things have changed significantly around here, and I am seeing a whole lot more people paying closer attention to things, especially normally apathetic people. It remains to be seen if those people will vote, but I have hope. Even conservatives I know are having a hard time with this crap, but I know mostly paleocons. I am hoping that Abbott and other loons around the country go big because people really do seem to be understanding how batshit insane these people are.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
55. Rethugs did the same thing to Ann Richards.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 03:20 PM
Feb 2014

She was not considered nearly as competitive as Wendy Davis is. Ann went from -20% in the polls to +2% in the final results on election day 1990.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
102. Don't think so. Remember, this is the same state that WANTS to secede from the union.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 08:35 AM
Feb 2014

I wonder WHY no one ever goes after Nugent? He's a draft dodger who crapped in his pants as to avoid service to our country, and he's a known racist scum-ball, but didn't he get in trouble for sleeping with an underage CHILD, which makes him a pedophile? Shouldn't he be in the sex offender registry?

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
15. The GOP has institutionalized bigotry.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:36 PM
Feb 2014

There's a big difference between people saying stupid things versus bigotry and hate being part of GOP culture. Demeaning the "other" is a virtue for republicans.

Watching these clips reminds me of how useless and irritating it is to listen to republicans talk about any subject.

They won't address the question -- they're not able to since they are truly bigots. They always try to cover their collective bigotry with a fig leaf of one-off statements from dems.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
46. Wolf Blitzer's parents are Holocaust survivors
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:43 PM
Feb 2014

So I guess this outrage hit a little too close to home. Maybe it will wake him up to the rest of the things he lets slide though.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
19. Uh...The term needs no Nazi connection to be in and of itself DESPICABLE!! WTH is wrong with CNN???
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:42 PM
Feb 2014
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
21. it is made all the more despicable by its long associations with genocide and Nazis
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:48 PM
Feb 2014

and CNN is absolutely right to point that out. period.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
28. ...and what was with the guy who was being interviewed being so hesitant to say this might be
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:56 PM
Feb 2014

a dog whistle to Abbott voters?

Might be a dog whistle? Are you fucking kidding me?

This is why casual racism has made such a big comeback. These talking heads are scared shitless to call it what it is even when it's blatant because they don't want to be accused of "playing the race card" by neanderthals.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
101. That's the problem with GOPer strategy: The kind of voter...
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 08:27 AM
Feb 2014

they want to whistle in is already lapping their shoes. Pursuing the "point" only riles up other voters. The only rationales beyond this:

1) They think the Bully Dynamic is so legitimized, and Democrats cow-down & whine so easily, that voters will go for a blowhole punk-bully over a craven, sniveling lib any time, or

2) They see polling #s they are afraid of.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
38. I know someone who watches CNN....
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:25 PM
Feb 2014

His attitude is both sided do it, it's always BEEN this way and it always will BE this way and there is NOTHING you can do about it so why don't you wise up and give up?

That is what CNN does to you.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
39. Very true...
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:26 PM
Feb 2014

people often used that term in place of the word mutt- a dog that is not a pure bred. So, even if he does not know the Nazi history of the word, he is using the it because Obama is bi-racial. He doesn't want to come out and say "half-breed", which is exactly what he is thinking.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
23. Talk about subhuman mongrels........
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:49 PM
Feb 2014

Nugent is a racist and sexist creep who spews hate on a regular basis. I would like to ask who goes to his concerts, but I already know the answer: other racist and sexist creeps like him.



yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
86. You know if Hillary is ever elected....
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 02:13 AM
Feb 2014

I am sure the Republicans will use the "C" word for her, as well as "bitch". I don't think the Republican party will ever recover from tea baggers taking over, it can only get worse.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
130. Republicans aren't using
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 03:16 PM
Feb 2014

The "N" word publicly for Obama..but you know they are thinking it. As for Hillary, I wouldn't be surprised if she was called the "C" word by some Republican Senator or Congressman in public on mic. They really and truly are a disgusting bunch... its very sad that this is what our Country has come down to, isn't it?

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
131. It's not just Republicans.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 04:08 PM
Feb 2014

In 2008 the so called liberal media was terrible too.

Chris Matthews called her "Nurse Ratched", "She Devil" and said that the only reason that she was a senator and a presidential candidate was because her "husband messed around".

David Shuster was suspended for saying that Chelsea was being pimped by Hillary (she had been campaigning for her mother).

Keith Olbermann told one of his guests that someone should take her into a room and only he should come out.

The list went on and on.



Beacool

(30,247 posts)
115. Wow, just wow!!!
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:04 AM
Feb 2014

I didn't know any of this. Why is this guy not in jail????????????

“He lambastes drug users and alcohol drinkers, but repeatedly admits (without a trace of humility, however) to being a serial pedophile. Two relationships (one with his wife and one with “muse” Pele Massa, who was 17 when they started dating) were ended due to Ted’s infidelity while on the road, often with underage women. But Ted justifies his behavior with one of his trademark funny expressions: “alternative flesh management.”

He's even worse than I thought. What a pig!!!!

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
116. It's a safe bet that Courtney Love isn't the only pre-teen Nugent has raped
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:23 AM
Feb 2014

The most surprising part (or perhaps unsurprising) is that the GOP regards him as a pillar of their community.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
117. The guy is a sicko.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:29 AM
Feb 2014

I think that Abbott will end up regretting asking him to come to one of his events. It may help him short term with the Tea Party kooks, but it will work against him statewide.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
31. The GOPers appears to evolve into pure insanity
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:04 PM
Feb 2014

GOPers introduction a bill "Presidential Over-Reaching Bill" instead of solving the UI and creating jobs. Just read the Religious nut cases claiming discrimination because of the "Gays". GOPers claiming Jim Crow because gays can marry now in some states. GOPers deny women proper health care and forcing them to undergo tests and making them have babies. Florida and other states denying voter rights.

Kinda sound like fascism to me. GOPers believe they are GAWD's chosen but JC would NEVER do what they are doing, plus JC and GOD loves everything, including mankind.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
34. But, but.....but
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:07 PM
Feb 2014

Godwin says you can't make comparisons to the Nazis, even when they are true, because you lose the argument. Didn't Wolfie get the message?

Oh, I'd better add this:

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
36. Here's my definition of Subhuman Mongrels - men who are pedophile, pants-shitting, draft dodgers...
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:13 PM
Feb 2014

Last edited Thu Feb 20, 2014, 08:53 AM - Edit history (1)

otherwise known as Ted Nugent.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
94. Get your stinkin' paws off her!
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 03:18 AM
Feb 2014

Reminds me of Bush sneaking up behind Angela Merkel giving her a backrub. EWWWWW!
Clueless, classless troglydytes!

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
41. Good for Wolf and
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:27 PM
Feb 2014

Newt was being too cute by half. God, he's a major asshole - I think back to the GOP debates and his arrogance is astounding. Nugent doesn't deserve shit. I don't like to judge on looks, but this time I will - he even looks like a fucking idiot. This has really pissed me off (in case you couldn't tell). Yeah, why hasn't he moved? Maybe Russia will give him asylum.

Doesn't he realize how fortunate he is to be an American and have first amendment rights? And most of all, while I think PBO has pretty thick skin after all these years in spite of what some people think, it royally pisses me off that his daughters, if not now, will learn about all this crap one day. Although I think they have the same solid backbone that our classy first lady has.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
70. Years ago.......
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 07:53 PM
Feb 2014

at a seminar led by a successful professional executive, he told us a wise thing to remember:
When someone is coming to you and giving you "comments, suggestions, etc," just remember,"Anything before the "but," is BULLSHIT!

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
45. Of course he knew what he...
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:40 PM
Feb 2014

was saying.

Just like he knew what he was saying when he told then candidate Obama to suck on his machine gun. At the same concert he called Hillary Clinton (a candidate too) a worthless *b*.

He's a piece of cowardly shit that would probably running crying and hide under his bed if either Hillary or Obama confronted him.

Fuck Ted Nugent.

TimeToEvolve

(303 posts)
47. he should speak for himself
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:51 PM
Feb 2014

a violent, narcissistic cretin for a seasons, a sociopath too,

ted's position allows him to do what he likes to do best: jerk off tiny white conservative dicks. (figuratively speaking)

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
50. This debate is a good start.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 03:13 PM
Feb 2014

There should be a discussion regarding the Pro-War Ted Nugent's dodging of the draft for Vietnam.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
57. Politicians like Greg Abbott use such idiots to say what they can't say publically.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 03:34 PM
Feb 2014

Let's be straight about this, these people are complete racist assholes but the ones running for office need to be two-faced or they know they can't win an election.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
62. This is the kind of language used in elections in the Jim Crow South.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 04:40 PM
Feb 2014

I swear, go back and read some of the stuff Theodore Bilbo (MS governor and senator) and Lester Maddox (GA governor) used to say about blacks. That's the language of race-baiting from way back, and it's still happening in an election in Texas in the 21st century. I hope Texans with a conscience will speak out about having Ted Nugent campaigning for a candidate in their state. An endorsement from Nugent is like an endorsement from the Klan, and that isn't an exaggeration.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
71. Really? How many are there?
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 07:57 PM
Feb 2014

"I hope Texans with a conscience will speak out..."

Come on - how many can there be? Look who they've been electing!

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
63. Hey, Newt, you insensitive fuck, it goes beyond wrong.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 05:17 PM
Feb 2014

Nugent is a Nazi. He is precisely a Nazi. If he is your political ally, you are sympathetic to the Nazi philosophy. Duh.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
103. Gingrich is the Master bully, and perfected the Bully Dynamic...
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 08:36 AM
Feb 2014

that crystalizes GOPer strategy, and has dominated deer-in-the-headlights Democrats for over 20 yrs. No surprise he is called in to legitimize the latest dominance escalation in the strategy.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
67. Newt Gingrich is a despicable person.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 05:24 PM
Feb 2014

How in the fuck can he defend this.

Oh, yeah.. Ted Nugent go to fucking hell you rotten piece of shit.

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
119. Thanks for the article. I'm of the belief that pedophiles need a little ass-kickin now and then...
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:39 AM
Feb 2014

to snap them out of their sick fantasies, and Ted Nugent is seriously aching for a dozen or more of those.

What does not surprise me, I guess, is that right wingers would support a pedophile like Ted Nugent. I think behind the façade of "normalcy," a lot of right wingers are in actuality some top-of-the-line sick puppies in serious need of psychological therapy and/or internment. The fact that right wingers idolize psychos, is reason enough to keep them at arm's length and fight them at every turn.

lindysalsagal

(20,680 posts)
78. Yes. They're shocked. Even after the 300th time they've aired it.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:43 PM
Feb 2014

The network is so shocked and disgusted, they used it to sell cars, fast food, boner pills...

If we keep giing airtime to rw lunatics, more lunatics willbe created. Thanks, CNN, so much.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
81. Can we retire the word "rant" at some point?
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 11:25 PM
Feb 2014

Wolf was not ranting. He was simply pointing out some obvious and some not-so-obvious facts. When I think of someone ranting, I think of out-of-control language and histrionics (arm-waving and such). There was none of that here. Wolf was firm, but never even slightly out of control.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
82. Since Newt is a lying sack of shit...
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 11:37 PM
Feb 2014

Let's review.

Biden was speaking at the Institute for Advanced Learning and Research in Danville, VA when he made the comments.

The institute is not a "black audience" or even a mostly black audience. Furthermore, Biden was riffing on earlier comments by Paul Ryan that we should "unshackle" the private sector (i.e., remove all those pesky regulations that had nearly caused the economy to melt down four years earlier) and Biden had been previously talking about "unshackling" the middle class. This was another use of the same metaphor.

You need know nothing more about the Republican Party than to know that Newt Gingrich and Paul Ryan are considered their intellectual leaders.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
85. So what Newt is saying is "Both sides do it"
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 01:59 AM
Feb 2014

Its a lame remark and shows Newt is out of touch. I call B.S on his remarks.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
90. That is a common Republican response to criticism and almost
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 02:46 AM
Feb 2014

always a lie or, if we're very lucky, a wild exaggeration. Scarborough must say it at least five times a week. And, of course, no one in media challenges any of them on it.

Boomerproud

(7,952 posts)
95. I just emailed CNN about letting Gingrich get away with a lie about Biden and I want proof about
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 03:32 AM
Feb 2014

what he said Gore said. I said that Blitzer should have pointed out that Fox News, AM radio and all of the other RW media scream invectives 24/7 with no consequences. The "both sides do it " is a lie. Thank you Jeff from Milwaukee for uploading the Biden footage. God, now I have to go to bed and I'm steaming.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
98. I used to email Tim Russert just about every Sunday.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 04:09 AM
Feb 2014

Dave Gregory is even worse, though.

People here complain--and rightly so--about Fox being on TV in public places. But CNN is on in far more public places and is almost as bad, IMO.

Anyway, good night and sleep well.


yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
129. Its kinda like a FOX NEW meme....
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 03:11 PM
Feb 2014

I have hard O'Reilly use it, Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter... all those Republican pundits use those words. OH... "WELL, they were CAUGHT in bed WITH A SHEEP?" "DEMOCRATS do it too"... WTF?

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
87. Nugent is a nougat --
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 02:22 AM
Feb 2014

sticky and full of nuts. He should be required to get special permission before leaving the republic of Texas.



fierce_liberal

(4 posts)
88. Jeff in Milwaukee is exactly right and here is the video
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 02:29 AM
Feb 2014

...of Biden "talking to a group of Blacks". Flat out lies. Whaaaatever.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
89. Nugent is a has been asshole who was not much at the height of his career.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 02:43 AM
Feb 2014

Sorry if that has no Nazi connotations. I'm not up on their terminology.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
93. How can Wolf be so stupid or naive as to not know why Crap Stain throws slurs around?
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 03:10 AM
Feb 2014

How may years in denial are supposed 'journalist' going to stay about Repukes? DON'T just flipout one day...flipout EVERYDAY a fucking GOPukers holds a seat in Congress!

The GOP SUCKS! Pass it on!

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
97. That nutgent a-hole is not dead or in jail yet like he predicted?
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 03:50 AM
Feb 2014

Isn't he almost a year late on that promise already?

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
106. What annoyed me most about the entire brouhaha was Abbott's response
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:06 AM
Feb 2014

to why he had Nugent there in the first place. Abbott said Nugent was "defending freedom." Apparently, Abbott is unaware that when Ted had a chance to "defend freedom" he filled his pants instead.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
107. Nugent joins a long list of reTHUG chicken hawks.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:27 AM
Feb 2014

Republicans like to wave the 'Sacrifice For Country' flag as long as its not THEM or THEIR FAMILIES do the sacrificing. They have been running this snake oil scam forever.




Republicans:

* **** Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage. Investigated by the FBI for treason as head of Haliburton for secret deals with Libya and Iran, both terrorist enemies of the United States of America while those nations were under US sanctions for direct involvement in the deaths of US military personel and civilians. Put profit over patriotic duty to his country.

* Dennis Hastert: did not serve.

* Tom Delay: did not serve.

* Roy Blunt: did not serve.

* Bill Frist: did not serve.

* Mitch McConnell: did not serve.

* Rick Santorum: did not serve.

* Trent Lott: did not serve.

* John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.

* Jeb Bush: did not serve.

* Karl Rove: did not serve.

* Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked Max
Cleland's patriotism.

* Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.

* Vin Weber: did not serve.

* Richard Perle: did not serve.

* Douglas Feith: did not serve.

* Eliot Abrams: did not serve.

* Richard Shelby: did not serve.

* Jon Kyl: did not serve.

* Tim Hutchison: did not serve.

* Christopher Cox: did not serve.

* Newt Gingrich: did not serve.

* Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor.

* George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; got
assigned to Alabama so he could campaign for family friend running for U.S.
Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam, disappeared from duty

* Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role

making movies.

* B-1 Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fighting was over in Korea.

* Phil Gramm: did not serve.

* John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart
and Distinguished Flying Cross.

* John M. McHugh: did not serve.

* JC Watts: did not serve.

* Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem," although continued

in NFL for 8 years.

* Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.

* Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.

* George Pataki: did not serve.

* Spencer Abraham: did not serve.

* John Engler: did not serve.

* Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.

* Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base.


Pundits &Preachers

* Sean Hannity: did not serve.

* Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.')

* Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.

* Michael Savage: did not serve.

* George Will: did not serve.

* Chris Matthews: did not serve.

* Paul Gigot: did not serve.

* Bill Bennett: did not serve.

* Pat Buchanan: did not serve.

* John Wayne: did not serve.

* Bill Kristol: did not serve.

* Kenneth Starr: did not serve.

* Antonin Scalia: did not serve.

* Clarence Thomas: did not serve.

* Ralph Reed: did not serve.

* Michael Medved: did not serve.

* Charlie Daniels: did not serve.

* Ted Nugent: did not serve. (He only shoots at things that don't shoot

back.)




Democrats:

* Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.

* David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.

* Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.

* Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army
journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.

* Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.

* Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII.

* John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V,
Purple Hearts.

* Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.

* Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star &Bronze Star,

Vietnam.

* Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.

* Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.

* Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.

* Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven

campaign ribbons.

* Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze

Stars, and Soldier's Medal.

* Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star

and Legion of Merit.

* Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.

* Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze
Star with Combat V.

* Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.

* Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57

* Chuck Robb: Vietnam

* Howell Heflin: Silver Star

* George McGovern: Silver Star &DFC during WWII.

* Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments. Entered draft but

received #311.

* Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.

* Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953

* John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18

Clusters.

* Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul
Wallenberg.



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Zambero

(8,964 posts)
120. Giving them the rope with which to hang themselves
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:45 AM
Feb 2014

Disgusting rhetoric lifted from the Nazi playbook notwithstanding, the right wing's true colors still need to be displayed for all to see. This is no longer your Grandma's GOP.

 

adavid

(140 posts)
121. Where is the ...
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:49 AM
Feb 2014

"Dixie Chick reaction" from libs, moderates, and progressives?
Crush those Nugent CD's in front of a news camera.

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