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rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 02:34 AM Mar 2012

Here is what I Don't get in the Martin fiasco

Two shots were fired, with a bit of elapsed time. If the first shot hit, why a second? Even if Zimermann feared for his life he wounded Martin, why shoot again?

I know why, what I can"t figure is how the cops thought it could be swept under the rug.

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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
3. There are conflicting reports
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 02:41 AM
Mar 2012

Some sources say one shot while some witnesses other sources say multiple shots were fired. In one of the 911 calls I heard, it sure sounded like two shots. The Sanford police said one, however, they're clearly corrupt and cannot be trusted.

Time will tell hopefully.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
13. The second 'shot' on that phone call sounded like..
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:30 PM
Mar 2012

..the poor woman was holding her breath for a second and let it out, almost like an 'Oof' right into the speaker.

bobbyblack

(15 posts)
4. It's like the "STOP RESISTING" thing
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 02:41 AM
Mar 2012

They teach you in wannabe cop land that you shoot the victim to kill, then fire another shot down and away from them to say, assuming there are no witnesses of course, that you fired a warning shot first.
Picture Jimbo in South Park..."He's coming right at us"...it is the same line of reasoning...this Zimmerman guy has been wanting to shoot somebody for a long time, and was ready with his "warning shot story.

Kennah

(14,256 posts)
5. Another who teaches shooting to kill is talking thru their ass
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 02:47 AM
Mar 2012

Shooting to stop is what's justifiable, when a shooting is justified.

That isn't the case in the Zimmerman case.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
7. I don't think anyone is ever formally taught that
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 05:59 AM
Mar 2012

in any classroom or training situation. They learn it from their fellow wanna-be's. The Zimmerman types, the ones who enjoy fantasizing about shooting "bad guys" with their guns, often like to talk amongst themselves about how best to do it, and how to avoid going to prison for it. I've heard it plenty of times. My dad and lots of his friends are like that, although not nearly as bad as Zimmerman - they don't make a hobby of going out looking for "bad guys" to shoot. Anyway, one of the things they all seem to agree on is that if you shoot a "bad guy", you should make sure to kill him, because a corpse can't testify against you in court.

Kennah

(14,256 posts)
8. There is an equally dysfunctional counter argument: Those who say ...
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:22 PM
Mar 2012

... shoot the gun out of his hand, or shoot him in the shoulder, or fire a warning shot.

FarPoint

(12,317 posts)
6. Another thought...
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:35 AM
Mar 2012

Why didnt the police take the gun into evidence? Even when a police officer fires his weapon and a shooting occurs, they must turn in the weapon...If I understand this correctly, Zimmerman has his gun and it never logged for ballistics.

Kennah

(14,256 posts)
9. Unless he takes a file to it, they can still get the gun and test it
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:25 PM
Mar 2012

However, that isn't really significant. I don't believe there is much doubt that George Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin.

If there were questions about the range at which Zimmerman fired, then they would be interested in GSR.

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