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yurbud

(39,405 posts)
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 01:42 PM Feb 2014

GRAPHIC: Why Corporations Want Our Public Schools

YES magazine has a couple of articles on this including a good history of the conservative assault on public education.

Corporate Democrats betray their true loyalties on this issue: they are like Abraham sacrificing our kids on the altar to their jealous god on Wall Street, and they can't claim Republicans are making them do it in heavily Democratic areas like New York and Chicago.

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GRAPHIC: Why Corporations Want Our Public Schools (Original Post) yurbud Feb 2014 OP
K&R Coyotl Feb 2014 #1
Love the graphic from Yes Magazine. madfloridian Feb 2014 #2
Thought this was your OP. Octafish Feb 2014 #62
That huge traunch of government education cash... elzenmahn Feb 2014 #3
not only that, but if these guys really think they know how to do it better... yurbud Feb 2014 #7
Good Point... elzenmahn Feb 2014 #10
They just want the money. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #29
Precisely. The problem is they are lousy at it. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #4
K&R. And let's again repost "The Big Enchilada." woo me with science Feb 2014 #5
wow--that is the like the Powell Memo and Pentagon Papers of education privatization yurbud Feb 2014 #8
This stuff needs more exposure. jsr Feb 2014 #15
K&R. True motives of more destructive privatization. Overseas Feb 2014 #37
Dupe! Triana Feb 2014 #6
Why? Salviati Feb 2014 #9
I believe you have diagnosed this correctly. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #28
Yep. Nt abelenkpe Feb 2014 #31
Charter schools are a scam. nt SunSeeker Feb 2014 #11
yurbud, I want to print this graphic and put it in my file... truth2power Feb 2014 #12
you might have to print it over two pages yurbud Feb 2014 #23
rec'd and shared.... mike_c Feb 2014 #13
Doese ANYONE here really believe that .... bvar22 Feb 2014 #14
Exactly what I've realized recently... rwsanders Feb 2014 #16
Precisely! JDPriestly Feb 2014 #24
You seem to have nailed it. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #26
<<<<THIS>>> nt antigop Feb 2014 #32
Exactly CFLDem Feb 2014 #39
Apparently, some do. LWolf Feb 2014 #18
Plus plus plus ONE! Enthusiast Feb 2014 #27
This should be its own op bvar22. +1 L0oniX Feb 2014 #41
K&R woo me with science Feb 2014 #17
And when all of the "no-security, poorly paid" teachers Lifelong Protester Feb 2014 #19
I am leaving public education this year.... AnneD Feb 2014 #40
I am sorry that some kids will be losing you Lifelong Protester Feb 2014 #43
You can only take so much.... AnneD Feb 2014 #44
It's a hard decision to make. DamnYankeeInHouston Feb 2014 #52
I have followed your posts..... AnneD Feb 2014 #53
it tears my heart in two DamnYankeeInHouston Feb 2014 #56
It already has gotten better..... AnneD Feb 2014 #61
K&R! DeSwiss Feb 2014 #20
A crushing graphic. blackspade Feb 2014 #21
Don't forget who until recently owned the Washington Post Recursion Feb 2014 #22
no, the Graham family owns Kaplan. kwassa Feb 2014 #64
The privatization of public schools is bullshit! Enthusiast Feb 2014 #25
Wild guess: money and brainwashing. merrily Feb 2014 #30
du rec. xchrom Feb 2014 #33
HUGE k and r! niyad Feb 2014 #34
CorpUSA wants to train a generation of Wall Street dittoheads blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #35
Sad K&R. Overseas Feb 2014 #36
Mind-control. jwirr Feb 2014 #38
Excellent OP! ReRe Feb 2014 #42
The "private sector" was hollowed out years ago, those big piles of government money are Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #45
m.o.n.e.y. spanone Feb 2014 #46
Concise and on target. Bookmarked. K&R Jefferson23 Feb 2014 #47
we're getting close to a tipping point on this. We need something like Occupy or a way yurbud Feb 2014 #48
where are our moderate, centrist, DLC, New Democrat friends telling us how great corporate reform is yurbud Feb 2014 #49
the financial elite don't realize the noose they are making for public ed will hang them yurbud Feb 2014 #50
Good posts, woo me with science Feb 2014 #51
kick woo me with science Feb 2014 #54
we should print this out and mail it Obama, Arne, and congress with a little note that says yurbud Feb 2014 #55
on the corporations mantra treestar Feb 2014 #57
This is easier than competing for customers in the"free market" yurbud Feb 2014 #58
But how do they cooperate with each other? treestar Feb 2014 #60
I wish you were right, but privatization of government services is a well-documented long term yurbud Feb 2014 #63
Thank you. K&R. liberal_at_heart Feb 2014 #59

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
62. Thought this was your OP.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 09:38 AM
Feb 2014

yurbud cares, too, about education and where the piratizers are taking our nation's future.

Thanks to you both.

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
3. That huge traunch of government education cash...
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 01:49 PM
Feb 2014

...is what this privatization scheme has ALWAYS been about.

Private markets should stay out of public education. If you want to send your child to a private or parochial school, fine. That's your choice. But the "invisible hand" needs to stay out of the classrooms.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
7. not only that, but if these guys really think they know how to do it better...
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 03:02 PM
Feb 2014

they would START by building entirely private schools, recruiting their rich friends' kids, and proving the model works BEFORE exporting it to public education.

The fact that they don't do this proves that they don't believe their own bullshit themselves.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
5. K&R. And let's again repost "The Big Enchilada."
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 02:12 PM
Feb 2014

Education: The "Big Enchilada"
http://www.billtotten.blogspot.com/2007/08/big-enchilada.html

Some years ago, a friend who works on Wall Street handed me a stock-market prospectus in which a group of analysts at an investment-banking firm known as Montgomery Securities described the financial benefits to be derived from privatizing our public schools. "The education industry", according to these analysts, "represents, in our opinion, the final frontier of a number of sectors once under public control" that "have either voluntarily opened" or, they note in pointed terms, have "been forced" to open up to private enterprise.

Indeed, they write, "the education industry represents the largest market opportunity" since health-care services were privatized during the 1970s... "The larger developing opportunity is in the K-12 EMO market, led by private elementary school providers..." From the point of view of private profit, one of these analysts enthusiastically observes, "the K-12 market is the Big Enchilada."

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
9. Why?
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 03:39 PM
Feb 2014

Because the point of capital these days is not to create goods or services that improve the lives of citizens these days. The point of capital is to identify the largest pools of money in society, to leach onto them, with the aim of skimming off as large a percentage as they possibly can without killing the host, until they forget about that last part and decide to vivisect the goose hoping to get the next golden egg before the upcoming quarterly reports.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
12. yurbud, I want to print this graphic and put it in my file...
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 04:01 PM
Feb 2014

Do you know why only the top half (#1 & 2) will print?

It won't print if I copy it from your OP and even if I try to go to the link and copy to Word. Thanks.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
14. Doese ANYONE here really believe that ....
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 04:27 PM
Feb 2014

...Millionaire Corporate Power Brokers like Rahm Emanuel and Arne Duncan give a SHIT about how your 5th grader is doing in school?

OR

are they concerned about How much Public Taxpayer Money can they divert to the private pockets of their well connected 1% friends?
The Feeding Frenzy is ON!!!

I have no problem with "Charter Schools",
as long as they do NOT receive a single penny of Public Money.
We already have a Public School System.
If it is broken, it is OUR responsibility to Fix It,
not steal the money from it.

If somebody wants a Charter School,
let them find their money from "Charter" (Private) sources.


[font size=3]Go ahead and Privatize the Schools
and Bust the Teachers Union.
What are they going to do?
Vote for a Republican?
Hahahahahahahahaha

rwsanders

(2,596 posts)
16. Exactly what I've realized recently...
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 04:38 PM
Feb 2014

"capitalism" is no longer about making a product or providing a benefit to society. It is a process of finding revenue streams and diverting them into the hands of the 1%.

 

CFLDem

(2,083 posts)
39. Exactly
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:11 AM
Feb 2014

That's why companies no longer invest in infrastructure like they used to since they're goal is to maximize profit from existing capital, not create anything new.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
18. Apparently, some do.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 09:09 PM
Feb 2014

They keep voting in politicians who enact these policies and appoint corporate toadies like Duncan.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
19. And when all of the "no-security, poorly paid" teachers
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 09:38 PM
Feb 2014

or TFA folks leave after a year or so, and they can't find anyone that wants the job, will folks with kids in school FINALLY wake UP?? I think most folks with kids in school think 'nothing has changed' in the last few years, except "greedy" teachers get to pay more for their retirement and health insurance. OK, fair enough, we are paying now... but the demands just keep growing, and growing, and the deck keeps being stacked, and the game is continuing to be rigged.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
40. I am leaving public education this year....
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:33 AM
Feb 2014

I am a School Nurse that has finally had enough. This 'greedy' educator, that has put up with everyone else telling me how to do my job but someone with actual experience. Kids don't have respect because it is not modeled for them, either by the parents or by our administration at the top levels.

I have worked here for 25 years. In the private sector, I can easily make 20-30K a year more......and we are comparing apples to apples not apples to oranges. I have been underpaid all these years, but it didn't bother me because I enjoyed what I was doing and was respected. I no longer enjoy it so I am leaving to make some serious money.

If you think they will have trouble replacing the teacher, try finding a School Nurse. We had 10 openings that went unfilled last year. I don't need to look into my crystal ball to know there will be even more next year.

And our brilliant legislator is instituting a pay for performance where everyone gets a base salary, like beginning teachers pay and then you get extra, based on your students test scores. I have no idea how they will judge a Nurse, but that will make the pay so erratic that one cannot plan one's life. In the 12 years we have had bonus pay, I have only received it twice. The rest of the time it was either stolen or I work in such an undeserved area that they did not score well enough.

As I said, I am cashing out my chips and going back into the private sector.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
43. I am sorry that some kids will be losing you
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 01:04 PM
Feb 2014

But I completely understand. The disrespect is soul- crushing, and life is too short. There are several positions like yours that will be impossible to fill.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
44. You can only take so much....
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 04:19 PM
Feb 2014

I am eligible to retire but I had thought of working a few more years as I was healthy and all. But after this leg. session when they started doing all this foolishness-I decided to vote with my wallet and boost my retirement savings. They are setting our schools up for failure and I am tired of watching it. If this education reform were so good, how come the scores get worse every year. Testing is just window dressing to distract you from the fact that they are stealing funds from education. They want a nation of slaves.

DamnYankeeInHouston

(1,365 posts)
52. It's a hard decision to make.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 01:20 PM
Feb 2014

I left the Houston schools after 33 years. I still had some good years left in me. Retirement is heaven. I have the world's smallest preschool at my house. It broke my heart that I had to leave the public schools in order to teach. Good luck to you.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
53. I have followed your posts.....
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 10:19 AM
Feb 2014

with interest as I am in a similar situation. As a Nurse....I have always earned less than I could, but I loved what I do. It is and has been less rewarding over the last 5 years as more work is dumped on me. This year has been the worst. And this performance based compensation that they are going to enact was the last straw. They have had 10 unfilled School Nurse positions this year. I can assure you they will have at least one more next year. I have heard it from other teachers and Nurses....They are leaving the district and the Teach for America Kids aren't hanging around either once their contracts expire. Honestly, if my daughter were school age, I would home school her or we would be looking at private schools.

DamnYankeeInHouston

(1,365 posts)
56. it tears my heart in two
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 08:48 PM
Feb 2014

to have to tell parents to do anything else now than put there kids in Houston's public school. You will be fine. You will be able to work full time or part time on top of your pension. It's the students and teachers we leave behind that worry me. And it's the future of our uneducated country that scares me. It was a personal health issue for me. I couldn't bear the stress anymore. I look after teachers' kids and they tell me it's even worse this year. Your life will be wonderful in a few months. Hang in there.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
61. It already has gotten better.....
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 09:36 AM
Feb 2014

when all these edicts come down from high, people start stressing and jumping through hoops. I just smile, knowing that my time is short.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
64. no, the Graham family owns Kaplan.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:14 PM
Feb 2014

Kaplan made a lot of money for them, until it didn't.

The Graham family owned the Post, until they sold it to Jeff Bezos of Amazon. The Graham family still owns Kaplan.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
25. The privatization of public schools is bullshit!
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 05:33 AM
Feb 2014

Hear that, Mr. Obama, Arne?

We don't want a Bush scheme run on us.

Mr. President, the reason we supported you as we did is because we hated that fucking Bush and his policies so badly. There are NO GOOD BUSH POLICIES.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
45. The "private sector" was hollowed out years ago, those big piles of government money are
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 04:55 PM
Feb 2014

the only big prize left worth hanging around for.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
48. we're getting close to a tipping point on this. We need something like Occupy or a way
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 12:41 PM
Feb 2014

to shame Democrats from taking money, advice, or free advisors from these people.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
49. where are our moderate, centrist, DLC, New Democrat friends telling us how great corporate reform is
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 12:43 PM
Feb 2014

Sometimes, even they know the stink of corruption is too great to cover up with a few air fresheners.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
50. the financial elite don't realize the noose they are making for public ed will hang them
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 12:41 PM
Feb 2014

If they could just be content with enough money for ten generations of their descendants to never have to work, no one would ever bother them and they could continue their degenerate lives of jaded debauchery.

By wanting so many of the marbles that there are none left for anyone else to even survive, they are going to end up losing everything.

I hope it is done peacefully, so we all have a chance to ask people like the Koch brothers what the fuck they were thinking while they are picking through the garbage for bottles to return for the deposit.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
55. we should print this out and mail it Obama, Arne, and congress with a little note that says
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 12:41 PM
Feb 2014

"We know what you're doing and who you are doing it for. Stop selling our kids future to Wall Street sociopaths or we will replace you."

treestar

(82,383 posts)
57. on the corporations mantra
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 08:52 PM
Feb 2014

does anyone seriously believe they cooperate with each other to rule us all? Don't they compete? Seems they would try to destroy each other more than have time to attempt to control the public school systems, which must be numerous.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
58. This is easier than competing for customers in the"free market"
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 09:40 PM
Feb 2014

They just have to make donations to the right foundations and politicians and they get the contacts with extremely lax oversight in nearly every place.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
60. But how do they cooperate with each other?
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 06:59 AM
Feb 2014

If they are the snakes we think they are, they wouldn't do that.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
63. I wish you were right, but privatization of government services is a well-documented long term
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 04:27 PM
Feb 2014

project.

Think of it like defense contractors: we take it for granted that private companies build the weapons for our military. Sometimes they compete among themselves, sometimes one company buys up all its competitors, and sometimes they work as a cartel as in the market in overall.

But in general, being a defense contractor is a sweet deal because the people using your product don't make buying decisions, a small handful of legislators and Pentagon generals do. The contractors can legally bribe the decision makers with campaign contributions or high paying jobs when they leave government service.

And because the decision-maker is not the user, product quality and even price are not as important as they are for products sold to the general public.

It is the worst of the private and public sector.

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