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Loaded Liberal Dem

(230 posts)
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 05:41 PM Feb 2014

Where's the birth certificate of Ted Cruz's MOTHER?

I googled both "Eleanor Elizabeth Wilson" and "Eleanor Elizabeth Wilson Darragh," went three pages deep on each name, and nothing offering proof she was born in Delaware. Plus, on both searches, the first entry was this article by Steven Lubet at Salon, excerpted below:

Cruz’s official Canadian birth certificate, as posted by the Dallas Morning News, shows that Rafael Edward Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, on December 22, 1970. Oddly, however, the birth was not registered until December 31, leaving an unexplained gap of nine days. But where was baby Ted over Christmas, an astute birther might ask. Donald Trump could build a casino in a hole that size.

Still, the birth certificate does state that Cruz’s mother, Eleanor Elizabeth Wilson, was born in Wilmington, Delaware. As Cruz has often said, that made him a U.S. citizen at birth, and therefore eligible to be president – but only if the birth certificate is accurate. The Canadian officials would have had no reason to question Cruz’s mother about her native country, nor would they have demanded any proof. Her word alone was good enough for Canadian purposes. Why would they care about the baby’s future qualification for the U.S. presidency?

Which brings us – or rather, which ought to bring the birthers – to the documents Cruz has not produced. Where, for example, is the Consular Report of Birth Abroad, which Cruz’s parents could have obtained at the U.S. consulate in Calgary? That would at least establish their intention to register him as an American citizen while they were living in Canada. For that matter, where is Eleanor Wilson’s own birth certificate? I mean, anyone can claim to have been born in Delaware, and everyone (including this dual citizen of the United States and Canada) knows that Canadians are too polite to ask tough questions. Birthers will have no such qualms. Will they require documentary proof?

http://www.salon.com/2013/08/22/ted_cruzs_ironic_birther_predicament/


Of course, Lubet naively assumes that Cruz will get the same treatment by Trump and Taitz and a million other idiots that Barack (OH MY GOD HE'S BLACK!) Obama did, which we all know is not gonna happen.

But the question remains: Where is Wilson/Darragh's birth certificate? Where was she born?
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Where's the birth certificate of Ted Cruz's MOTHER? (Original Post) Loaded Liberal Dem Feb 2014 OP
Some folks may think she was born on Kolob (R) Berlum Feb 2014 #1
I thought that's where good Mormons went Loaded Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #2
I've heard it rumored that these so-called "some folks" may employ RepubliThink Berlum Feb 2014 #8
Quickly! Hide the children and old folks! idendoit Feb 2014 #11
Dey eben gots a paiteroddic song about her. Jackpine Radical Feb 2014 #3
So..... Loaded Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #4
Don't draw any serious conclusions from my comment. Jackpine Radical Feb 2014 #6
Someone would actually admit to being his mother? TheCowsCameHome Feb 2014 #5
Cruz can not renounce his Canadian citizenship if he can not prove that his mom is US Citizen Gothmog Feb 2014 #7
Unlike That Awful Negro, Conservatives Know Where Ted Cruz Comes From. Coyotl Feb 2014 #9
Some say his father Jamaal510 Feb 2014 #10
Being born in a foreign country? Hmmmmm... WinkyDink Feb 2014 #12
His mother was born in Delaware Liag3 Dec 2015 #13
Correction... ScreamingMeemie Dec 2015 #14
Eleanor Elizabeth Wilson GoLoIdaho Dec 2015 #15

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
1. Some folks may think she was born on Kolob (R)
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 05:43 PM
Feb 2014

... if true that would definitely make her a Kolobian,
every CuboCanadian would likely agree.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
8. I've heard it rumored that these so-called "some folks" may employ RepubliThink
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 07:16 PM
Feb 2014

to come up with their "ideas," which are understood to derive from imbecilic heavy-metal scientific materialist fatuous poosense.

That might be an explanation of the "Kolob" hypothesis. Then again it might not.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
3. Dey eben gots a paiteroddic song about her.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 06:09 PM
Feb 2014

"Hail, Kolobian."


Hail Kolobian, Weird woman!
Hail, ye heroes, heav'n-born band,
Who fought and bled in Joe Smith's cause,
Who fought and bled in Joe Smith's cause,
And when the storm of war was gone
Enjoy'd the peace your valor won.
Let Salt Lake City be our boast,
Ever mindful what it cost;
Ever grateful for the prize,
Let its altar reach the skies.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
6. Don't draw any serious conclusions from my comment.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 07:00 PM
Feb 2014

In reality, though, I think Ted's too Tea-toxic for The Powers to permit him to get far in the nomination process. Sorta like Santorum & Huckabee that way. Sure, if there's something to make of it, fine, but it won't alienate his nutcase base, and I think he's too unmanageable for the Rove types to want anywhere near the levers.

Gothmog

(176,892 posts)
7. Cruz can not renounce his Canadian citizenship if he can not prove that his mom is US Citizen
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 07:02 PM
Feb 2014

As far as I know, Carnival Cruz is still a citizen of Canada and will remain a citizen until he can prove that his mom is a US citizen

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
9. Unlike That Awful Negro, Conservatives Know Where Ted Cruz Comes From.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 07:39 PM
Feb 2014

"... Canada is not really foreign soil ...."

Unlike That Awful Negro, Conservatives Know Where Ted Cruz Comes From.
http://macklyons.blogspot.com/2013/08/unlike-that-awful-negro-conservatives.html

When Democrat Barack Obama was running for president in 2008, Republican voter Christina Katok of Walden said she believed he was ineligible for the job.

She reasoned that he was born in Kenya and therefore wasn’t a “natural born” American — one of a handful of constitutional requirements for the job. (Obama's birth certificate shows that he was born in Hawaii, but some critics do not accept that as fact.)

Fast forward six years and another freshman U.S. senator, Canadian-born Tea Party firebrand Ted Cruz of Texas, is being mentioned as a potential 2016 presidential candidate. But Katok, who would vote for Cruz in a heartbeat, doesn’t have any concerns about his eligibility.

“As far as I’m concerned, Canada is not really foreign soil,” she said. ...........


Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
10. Some say his father
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 07:44 PM
Feb 2014

might've did it with a machine, and then it self-destructed upon giving birth to TC nine months later.

Liag3

(1 post)
13. His mother was born in Delaware
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:15 AM
Dec 2015

OK, it took me less than 5 minutes to come up with her date of birth Nov 23, 1934. Born in Delaware and her aliases she's used over the years, her contact details including current phone and present and past addresses, her family including parents, sister, husband, children etc....

The investigative reporters need to do their homework before writing an article so they don't look like slackers.
At the end of the day he's a jackass and won't get the nomination... even most republicans don't like him.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
14. Correction...
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 08:39 AM
Dec 2015

even most republicans here where I live don't like him.

They effing adore him down here in Texas. It's why we ended up with the jackass in the first place.

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GoLoIdaho

(1 post)
15. Eleanor Elizabeth Wilson
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:23 PM
Dec 2015

I did a very specific search for her and did not ever reach any public records that indicate what you claim. During this period of time is was seen as a way to get a legitimate birth certificate by going to Calgary; we came across this with one of my male co-workers who (several years ago) was almost refused entry back into the United States because they discovered he was adopted but showing as born in Calgary. Definitely someone needs to completely investigate with an accurate knowledge of the applicable law.

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