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Police Handcuff NBC Chicago Photojournalist
Police release media members after about 10 minutes
Chicago police took two members of the media into custody Saturday, including an NBC Chicago photographer.
Photographer Donte Williams and WGN Reporter Dan Ponce were detained as they attempted to cover the story of a 6-year-old girl who was shot and killed. Crews were standing on a sidewalk outside Mt. Sinai Hospital, where the girl had been taken.
The hospital apparently called police, complaining of trespassers. The news crews, at the request of police officers, said they had already moved from a public sidewalk directly in front of the hospital, to a median halfway across the street.
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Police held Williams and Ponce for about 10 minutes. The officer who handcuffed them is recorded on camera warning members of the media that their First Amendment rights could be terminated.
"Your First Amendment rights can be terminated if you're creating a scene or whatever," the officer said.
When asked how they were creating a scene, the officer said, "Your presence is creating a scene."
Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Chicago-Police-Take-NBC-Chicago-Photojournalist-Into-Custody-Warn-1st-Amendment-Rights-Can-Be-Terminated-143105086.html#ixzz1psCIKquu
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)"Your First Amendment rights can be terminated if you're creating a scene or whatever," the officer said.
When asked how they were creating a scene, the officer said, "Your presence is creating a scene."
Presence=Scene=No Rights
So if you don't exist you have rights but if you do actually exist you don't have rights.
Have I got that straight?
KansDem
(28,498 posts)Presence = Whatever = No Rights.
I know what a "scene" is...I'd like to know what "whatever" is...
arthritisR_US
(7,810 posts)police are applying and I sure as hell don't trust them to apply it judiciously
indepat
(20,899 posts)tclambert
(11,193 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Cops know nothing of what is actually legal, allowed, or constitutional.
tsuki
(11,994 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Hooray!!!!!
I hope the pd is sued.
Salviati
(6,059 posts)In order to protect our "rights" and our "freedoms" we've got to give them up so they can be put in this box where they can be kept nice and safe...
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Your rights are guaranteed until you try to exercise them, in which case off to the gulag.
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Brickbat
(19,339 posts)gopiscrap
(24,733 posts)low information, steroid pumped, arrogant, Napoleon wanna be's...almost every cop now a days is a worthless Nazi like scum....something needs to be done...part of the problem is the glorification of these authorative butt wipes on shows like COPS and the piss ant attention span of the American public.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And it hasn't been made in a few.
gopiscrap
(24,733 posts)pd's do you mean police departments?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Most did not play along, local story exemplifies why.
Local sherrifs decided to play along, and they almost got sued. Star officer got stupid before the cameras. The rest said, no thank you.
backscatter712
(26,357 posts)They had one of my posts hidden for calling the police "pigs".
They truly don't have enough to do.
But I certainly share your sentiment. I'm sick of these roid-raging authoritarian un-Americans wiping their asses with our civil liberties.
spanone
(141,616 posts)malthaussen
(18,571 posts)n/t
RC
(25,592 posts)Non people persons still have lots of rights.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Golly, where did we ever develop the idea that judge, jury and jailer could be rolled up into one person??? Aren't we supposed to have a system of checks and balances so that one person doesn't wield too much power? Well, unless the person being detained or blown sky high is really, really bad.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)"Or whatever."
Exactly.
The Wielding Truth
(11,433 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Curious indeed.
frylock
(34,825 posts)quakerboy
(14,868 posts)tha police fuck you.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)nt
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Until we tell you no.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Evidently you can be in trouble with the law for just...'whatever', stop asking questions! Questions lead to extended jailtime!
xchrom
(108,903 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)congress more than this. We need to get the SCOTUS back into the hands of people who actually believe in the Constitution so we can get this stuff into courts.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Remember?
grasswire
(50,130 posts)True conservatives ought to be howling about this attack on the Constitution.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Rights are the things they CAN'T take away.
(But we're awfully busy giving them away)
appal_jack
(3,813 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)dorksied
(348 posts)quakerboy
(14,868 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 23, 2012, 12:59 PM - Edit history (1)
And many of us do not even have that. And the scary thing is its worse in many other places.
bvar22
(39,909 posts).... as in the Top 1%.
You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
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tblue37
(68,436 posts)"privilege," I felt I had to do something about the relentless spread of that misspelling.
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)What an embarrassment.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,161 posts)Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)are what we say they are, unless we think you might sue us. In that case, we'll keep your rights in mind, but it probably won't make us change anything unless we get the piss sued out of us a few times by someone with a better lawyer than you have."
sakabatou
(46,148 posts)solarman350
(136 posts)Film the arrest and DOX the cop. Just remember, when you sue Chicago, you're taking money away from its operating budget. Better to also sue the arresting officer into oblivion.
DOX:
http://partyvan.info/wiki/Dox
Mopar151
(10,348 posts)Good cops are diplomats, social workers, first responders and investigators - Not instigators and portable supreme courts.
One of our local idiots was really special "He could turn a parking ticket into a riot faster than anyone we've ever seen!" opined one of the 5 police chiefs to fire him. Once shot a hole in the roof of a cruiser.......
Initech
(108,783 posts)DLC_GOPLite
(7 posts)This was the change that I voted for!
(Sarcasm)
Quantess
(27,630 posts)Hear that, FReepers? We aren't the freest country in the world anymore.
That, described in the OP is a freedom that is being robbed from the American people, and has been diminishing since 9/11.