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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 02:52 PM Mar 2012

Police Handcuff NBC Chicago Photojournalist, "Your First Amendment rights can be terminated"

Police Handcuff NBC Chicago Photojournalist
Police release media members after about 10 minutes

Chicago police took two members of the media into custody Saturday, including an NBC Chicago photographer.

Photographer Donte Williams and WGN Reporter Dan Ponce were detained as they attempted to cover the story of a 6-year-old girl who was shot and killed. Crews were standing on a sidewalk outside Mt. Sinai Hospital, where the girl had been taken.

The hospital apparently called police, complaining of trespassers. The news crews, at the request of police officers, said they had already moved from a public sidewalk directly in front of the hospital, to a median halfway across the street.

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Police held Williams and Ponce for about 10 minutes. The officer who handcuffed them is recorded on camera warning members of the media that their First Amendment rights could be terminated.

"Your First Amendment rights can be terminated if you're creating a scene or whatever," the officer said.

When asked how they were creating a scene, the officer said, "Your presence is creating a scene."


Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Chicago-Police-Take-NBC-Chicago-Photojournalist-Into-Custody-Warn-1st-Amendment-Rights-Can-Be-Terminated-143105086.html#ixzz1psCIKquu

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Police Handcuff NBC Chicago Photojournalist, "Your First Amendment rights can be terminated" (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Mar 2012 OP
Brilliant tk2kewl Mar 2012 #1
It's worse than that KansDem Mar 2012 #4
That's a very subjective criterion the arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #14
By jove, I think you've got it! indepat Mar 2012 #18
In other words, "The law is what the cops say it is." tclambert Mar 2012 #28
And this is why taxpayers lose millions to lawsuits, cops that invent the law. Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #37
I think it is worst than that. It sounds like a veiled threat to me. You can be terminated. nt tsuki Mar 2012 #35
Ah the new Amerika where rights are conditional nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #2
Conditional on us not acutally using them. Salviati Mar 2012 #9
Indeed. Just like the constitution of the USSR. hifiguy Mar 2012 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Mar 2012 #3
"Or whatever." Brickbat Mar 2012 #5
Typical fucking pigs gopiscrap Mar 2012 #6
FYI most pd's hate cops. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #8
Sorry but what does abbreviation mean? gopiscrap Mar 2012 #13
Yes police departments nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #17
Careful, you'll get DU's pearl-clutchers riled up. backscatter712 Mar 2012 #20
an ignorant, uninformed police officer. spanone Mar 2012 #7
Ever notice how close "uninformed" is to "uniformed?" malthaussen Mar 2012 #47
The Photojournalist should have shown the cops their Corporation papers. RC Mar 2012 #10
And people will profess shock at this gratuitous Mar 2012 #11
"...if you're creating a scene or whatever." WilliamPitt Mar 2012 #12
Yes,just like the Constitution."Freedom of the Press or whatever." The Wielding Truth Mar 2012 #36
Yeeeeppp. Rex Mar 2012 #43
fuck tha police frylock Mar 2012 #16
In facist America quakerboy Mar 2012 #41
good one! frylock Mar 2012 #45
Is it a police state yet or we still playing pretend? Rex Mar 2012 #19
Play pretend, exercise them rights nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #21
Rights? We don't need no stinkin rights!!! Rex Mar 2012 #22
OOOPS! The truth slips out. Nt xchrom Mar 2012 #23
This makes me sick and nothing points up the need to reelect President Obama and a progressive jwirr Mar 2012 #24
But Chicago is the homeland of Obama's sidekick, Rahm Emmanuel. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #27
if it can be capriciously revoked, IT IS NOT A RIGHT grasswire Mar 2012 #25
Absolutely! FiveGoodMen Mar 2012 #30
+1!, k&r, n/t appal_jack Mar 2012 #31
Wow!!! JDPriestly Mar 2012 #26
When rights can be taken away, they cease to be rights, and become priveledges... dorksied Mar 2012 #29
Privilege is all we have left quakerboy Mar 2012 #42
"Priveledge" is ONLY for "The Priveledged"... bvar22 Mar 2012 #50
I wasn't going to say anything, but when three posts in a row misspelled tblue37 Mar 2012 #51
Yeah. Welcome to Rahmbo's Chicago. Tatiana Mar 2012 #32
Chicago has not changed much since 1968, methinks. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #44
I smell a winner of a lawsuit Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #33
"Your rights Aerows Mar 2012 #34
Now that is scary. sakabatou Mar 2012 #38
DOX the cop Who Handcuffed the Journalist solarman350 Mar 2012 #39
Dumb and needlessly confrontational Mopar151 Mar 2012 #40
Welcome to the post BFEE America. Initech Mar 2012 #46
I sure do love the post 9/11 FASCIST America! DLC_GOPLite Mar 2012 #48
Freedom is disappearing. Quantess Mar 2012 #49
 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
1. Brilliant
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 02:54 PM
Mar 2012

"Your First Amendment rights can be terminated if you're creating a scene or whatever," the officer said.

When asked how they were creating a scene, the officer said, "Your presence is creating a scene."

Presence=Scene=No Rights

So if you don't exist you have rights but if you do actually exist you don't have rights.

Have I got that straight?


KansDem

(28,498 posts)
4. It's worse than that
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 02:57 PM
Mar 2012

Presence = Whatever = No Rights.

I know what a "scene" is...I'd like to know what "whatever" is...

arthritisR_US

(7,810 posts)
14. That's a very subjective criterion the
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:09 PM
Mar 2012

police are applying and I sure as hell don't trust them to apply it judiciously

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
37. And this is why taxpayers lose millions to lawsuits, cops that invent the law.
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 04:48 PM
Mar 2012

Cops know nothing of what is actually legal, allowed, or constitutional.

tsuki

(11,994 posts)
35. I think it is worst than that. It sounds like a veiled threat to me. You can be terminated. nt
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 04:41 PM
Mar 2012

Salviati

(6,059 posts)
9. Conditional on us not acutally using them.
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:05 PM
Mar 2012

In order to protect our "rights" and our "freedoms" we've got to give them up so they can be put in this box where they can be kept nice and safe...

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
15. Indeed. Just like the constitution of the USSR.
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:12 PM
Mar 2012

Your rights are guaranteed until you try to exercise them, in which case off to the gulag.

Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

gopiscrap

(24,733 posts)
6. Typical fucking pigs
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:02 PM
Mar 2012

low information, steroid pumped, arrogant, Napoleon wanna be's...almost every cop now a days is a worthless Nazi like scum....something needs to be done...part of the problem is the glorification of these authorative butt wipes on shows like COPS and the piss ant attention span of the American public.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
17. Yes police departments
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:14 PM
Mar 2012

Most did not play along, local story exemplifies why.

Local sherrifs decided to play along, and they almost got sued. Star officer got stupid before the cameras. The rest said, no thank you.

backscatter712

(26,357 posts)
20. Careful, you'll get DU's pearl-clutchers riled up.
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:17 PM
Mar 2012

They had one of my posts hidden for calling the police "pigs".

They truly don't have enough to do.

But I certainly share your sentiment. I'm sick of these roid-raging authoritarian un-Americans wiping their asses with our civil liberties.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
10. The Photojournalist should have shown the cops their Corporation papers.
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:05 PM
Mar 2012

Non people persons still have lots of rights.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. And people will profess shock at this
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:06 PM
Mar 2012

Golly, where did we ever develop the idea that judge, jury and jailer could be rolled up into one person??? Aren't we supposed to have a system of checks and balances so that one person doesn't wield too much power? Well, unless the person being detained or blown sky high is really, really bad.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
22. Rights? We don't need no stinkin rights!!!
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:21 PM
Mar 2012

Evidently you can be in trouble with the law for just...'whatever', stop asking questions! Questions lead to extended jailtime!

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
24. This makes me sick and nothing points up the need to reelect President Obama and a progressive
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:49 PM
Mar 2012

congress more than this. We need to get the SCOTUS back into the hands of people who actually believe in the Constitution so we can get this stuff into courts.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
25. if it can be capriciously revoked, IT IS NOT A RIGHT
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:55 PM
Mar 2012

True conservatives ought to be howling about this attack on the Constitution.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
30. Absolutely!
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 04:03 PM
Mar 2012

Rights are the things they CAN'T take away.

(But we're awfully busy giving them away)

quakerboy

(14,868 posts)
42. Privilege is all we have left
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:04 PM
Mar 2012

Last edited Fri Mar 23, 2012, 12:59 PM - Edit history (1)

And many of us do not even have that. And the scary thing is its worse in many other places.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
50. "Priveledge" is ONLY for "The Priveledged"...
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 09:12 AM
Mar 2012

.... as in the Top 1%.



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
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tblue37

(68,436 posts)
51. I wasn't going to say anything, but when three posts in a row misspelled
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 12:00 PM
Mar 2012

"privilege," I felt I had to do something about the relentless spread of that misspelling.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
34. "Your rights
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 04:39 PM
Mar 2012

are what we say they are, unless we think you might sue us. In that case, we'll keep your rights in mind, but it probably won't make us change anything unless we get the piss sued out of us a few times by someone with a better lawyer than you have."

 

solarman350

(136 posts)
39. DOX the cop Who Handcuffed the Journalist
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 05:26 PM
Mar 2012

Film the arrest and DOX the cop. Just remember, when you sue Chicago, you're taking money away from its operating budget. Better to also sue the arresting officer into oblivion.

DOX:
http://partyvan.info/wiki/Dox

Mopar151

(10,348 posts)
40. Dumb and needlessly confrontational
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 05:54 PM
Mar 2012

Good cops are diplomats, social workers, first responders and investigators - Not instigators and portable supreme courts.

One of our local idiots was really special "He could turn a parking ticket into a riot faster than anyone we've ever seen!" opined one of the 5 police chiefs to fire him. Once shot a hole in the roof of a cruiser.......

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
49. Freedom is disappearing.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 07:03 AM
Mar 2012

Hear that, FReepers? We aren't the freest country in the world anymore.

That, described in the OP is a freedom that is being robbed from the American people, and has been diminishing since 9/11.

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