Don't Know If You Are Watching MSNBC Right Now But Important Stuff Here:

[WillyT]

1) Governor Brewer of AZ just vetoed the Anti-Gay Bill !



But...

2) The reporter doing a live spot said (paraphrasing), that even many of the Republicans that voted for it were TAKEN ABACK by the viral nature of the reaction from citizens and businesses alike.

THAT is the recipe for making the 2014 Mid-Terms a WAVE election.

Use social media, traditional media, keep articles, videos, speeches, and anything else to whack these right-wing fuckwads up against the heads in 2014.

[The Magistrate]

1. Hear Hear, Sir!

I do not subscribe to the 'we're doomed in November' line, not at all....

[Auntie Bush]

6. I never have either. Can't understand why people say that.

Democrats are in the majority.

[randome]

19. We are not doomed. Good on you for stating it.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]TECT in the name of the Representative approves of this post.[/center][/font][hr]

[Jack Rabbit]

26. Anyone who believe that line watches way too much television

The GOP is toast.

[pangaia]

37. But only, I believe, if we throw them an anchor.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

70. butter. not an anchor. BUTTER. with jam.

the kind that stains their dentures.

[Left Coast2020]

40. Only if millions of us get our asses to the polls.

Thats it in a nutshell. Of course the libural media is claiming we could lose the Senate.

This is the list to remember:

-Government shutdown
-Voting over 40 times to repeal ACA
-Racist comments by various GOP governors/Rep's
-Voting against Women
-Suppressing voting rights


Keep this post as a reminder for future use. I hope we are not complacent this time. If we repeat 2010, well, you get the picture.

[aquart]

72. Start preparing poll packs. Water, food. Some states want ten-hour waits. Bathrooms?

We need babysitters. We need employers on board with giving people time to vote.

We NEED employers to come out and swear a poll hero will not be penalized at work. Start the pressure now.

And we need people to give place to the frail voters who won't be able to hold out.

Beat the bastards with stamina, courage, and planning.

[calimary]

75. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES!!! This is the post of the YEAR, aquart!!!

We need people with extra chairs. We need people willing to stand in line and be place-holders. We need people to come along to the lines of voters with bottled water and energy bars and umbrellas for shade if the sun's beating down on them all day and they have to stand for hours. We need people to go run errands, and take little old ladies and gents to the bathroom if they've had to wait for hours. We need people to run to the grocery store, or send out for a stack of pizzas so people stuck in line waiting to vote have something to snack on. Or donuts and coffee in the morning. We need people to help and assist and drive and PRESSURE, alright!!! PRESSURE employers to be extremely lenient on Election Day. It's the only patriotic thing to do.

[chknltl]

81. An enthusiastic +1

An inspired and informed citizenry supporting it's own electorate and electoral process against those who attack our democracy! This is the very definition of PATRIOTISM!

Personally I feel that "Voter Suppression" needs to be redefined as "Anti-Democracy" and tied as yet another boat anchor around the Republican Agenda in the same way it has been tied to being Anti-Gay, Anti-Woman and Anti-Latina. The way I see it, many Americans can and do argue against women's rights, equal rights for the LBGT and against immigration. Those who do argue this way support a losing argument both ethically and in elections. Voter suppression in all of it's forms is a direct attack on our democracy PERIOD. It will be tough for an any voter, regardless of prior party support, to find an argument for the "Anti-Democracy Party"!

[chknltl]

77. Yes! This post deserves it's own KnR!

Voter suppression is a direct attack on our democracy from within PERIOD. I strongly believe that an informed American electorate will not stand for it. The Democratic Party has recently done well by exposing the Republican agenda as anti-woman, anti-LGBT and anti-immigrant. I believe it can be even better served by similarly exposing the Republican agenda as Anti Democracy. Using the media to call up brigades of citizens willing to support our electorate at Republican suppressed Polls is a great way to increase attention.

[ReRe]

84. That's right....

... Republicans can't do this. They have no work ethic. That they are a bunch of lazy arses
is where we have them beat. Let's get his done!

[elleng]

2. Damn right!

If only Dem Party will help!

[rhett o rick]

3. great point. Thanks for posting. nm

[postulater]

4. Hate disguised as religion must never be turned into law. Nt

[Skidmore]

5. We need to unite over a bunch of issues affecting a number of communities:

LGBT, women, homeless people, unemployed, underemployed. Backlash needs to occur. Let us get some these issues on the radar. MSM paid attention only when there was an uproar. Make it so.

[Bluenorthwest]

7. Hey Moderate Democrats, remember when you thought supporting equality would

'cost us the election'? How long did you do the wrong thing out of fear you deemed 'pragmatism'?

[1StrongBlackMan]

13. No ...

I don't recall any Democrat saying that.

{Divisive even in victory.}

[cui bono]

22. I do. I remember people saying on DU that gay rights could wait until other things were sorted out

first. Which means equal rights. So some thought it was okay to relegate LGBT to second class citizens until...

[Gore1FL]

27. I do recall some afraid to take the equal rights position.

I also remember the GOP successfully using it, with some success as a wedge issue in the last decade.

Because of a bigoted american society, many were afraid to champion it. Fortunately, society has changed to embrace equality. The politics are finally starting to catch up.

[WillyT]

28. + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!!

Yep...

[1StrongBlackMan]

36. I don't recall that ...

maybe a link?

But that said (and forgive the very loose analogy) ... there is a difference in a fight to defend a right and a fight to advance a right. This was the former rather than the latter.

Example: this was a fight to defend the right to access; something that had already been granted; as opposed to (in Arizona) a fight for SSM, a right that hasn't been granted ... yet.

Perhaps, that's what you recall?

[plantwomyn]

45. Discriminatory laws that are found Unconstitutional

were ALWAYS Unconstitutional, they merely had yet to be recognized as such. DOMA was Unconstitutional at it's inception, it didn't suddenly become so. The Constitution already grants all of us equal protection and due process. But as I'm sure you know, we only truly have the Constitutional rights we can afford to protect. It has caused much pain and taken all too many years to repeal that Unconstitutional law. So IMHO we have been fighting all along for equality already granted by the Constitution and only now our efforts are coming to fruition.

BTW I remember the vocal disappointment of many here when neither Hillary nor Barack stood up for equality in 2008. We were told the equivalent to "get to the back of the bus". Then we were told to quiet down and back the nominee...or else. Ya that happened.

[JDPriestly]

56. Civil marriage is a fundamental right -- Loving v. Virginia.

Since it is a fundamental right, the 14th Amendment requires the government to recognize that right and thus grant it to all people equally.

Since the right to marry is fundamental and must be granted to all people equally, the right to enter into a civil marriage with the person you love cannot be denied to an individual merely because that individual wants to marry a person of the same sex.

The right to a civil marriage with the person you love, regardless of race, religion, gender, etc. was insured when the 14th Amendment was passed. The government has no right to deny that right to anyone.

That's what I think.

[1StrongBlackMan]

60. I know what the SOTUS said ...

and I absolutely agree.

That still doesn't change my statement.

[sabrina 1]

55. I remember that too. I remember when the DOJ fought the decision on the right for Gays

to serve openly in the military. I remember writing OPs about it and being attacked by some who stated 'it isn't the right time'.

How quickly we forget.

Airc, we expected DADT to be disposed of in Jan. 2009, instead we witnessed this DOJ fight against it. Thanks to all those who refused to accept that.

[bvar22]

79. X 1000

I was here.
I remember.
Sad for DU that so many were telling a large segment of our membership to Sit Down & Shut Up about your Rights.

In fact, many of DUs best & brightest got banned or forced to leave due to hostile environment over that very issue.

[Luminous Animal]

29. It was all over DU. And 7 committed LBGTQ activists were tombstoned Even posting the number 7,

in solidarity with them, would get your post hidden.

[Le Taz Hot]

39. I do.

A whole lot of times. We needed to "wait," "DU is more liberal than the rest of the nation," "LGBT issues are not important right now -- they' cost us ("Democrats&quot elections."

I remember all of these statements and more. It's a fact.

[1StrongBlackMan]

42. I do not recall that ...

But that said (and forgive the very loose analogy) ... there is a difference in a fight to defend a right (e.g., the right for Black folks to vote in 1966) and a fight to advance a right (e.g., Black folks right to be free from discriminatory denial of access in employment, public accommodations, etc., in 1966).

This was a fight for the former rather than the latter ... this was a fight to defend the right to access; something that had already been granted; as opposed to (in Arizona) a fight for SSM, a right that hasn't been granted ... yet.

Perhaps, that's what you recall?

[Le Taz Hot]

46. No, I recall it very clearly.

Right here on DU and it came from the Party Faithful. You can rationalize it all you want but LBGTQ advocates, REAL activists, were banned from this board during that time and this site is the poorer for it. I miss their voices. Unfortunately, the same people who were advocating that we put this issue on the back burner are still here, still posting their useless fanboy posts complete with endless links to nowhere and still trying like hell to get dissenters banned.

You don't have to take my word for it, there were plenty of people still here that remember those disgusting posts/threads and remember who started them.

[1StrongBlackMan]

47. Okay ...

But none-the-less, can we celebrate this victory and now press the next fight?

[1StrongBlackMan]

44. But, in either case ...

Let's celebrate this victory and fight the next battle.

[treestar]

65. and that was then, before all of the things that happened since

If we still had DADT, etc., and the court decisions made since then had not been made, it might well have been different now. Brewer is reacting after all of that.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

78. LOL. then you were not paying attention. nt

[Luminous Animal]

58. + and heart and hugs.

[Zorra]

8. +1. nt

[irisblue]

9. wow good news

but why did she wait so long to do the "the right thing for Arizona"? I ask in kindness, b/c MFM lived there. I cut some slack b/c of that. And I miss him. Image what he would say...

[Cleita]

10. I don't know if anyone here is familiar with Barney's Beanery in

West Hollywood. In a very gay neighborhood, the owner declared war on gays and had little signs on the tables an on his match books that stated a slur in slang, No......allowed. I can't remember if the word was fags or something else. He had to back off or have his license pulled among many other pressures he was subjected to. I believe the neighborhood of West Hollywood incorporated into a city, got a council and a mayor and passed laws against discrimination.

My point is there needs to be laws AGAINST all kinds of discrimination in public places. I think there should be national laws so states can't try to do this.

[tofuandbeer]

14. Seriously? He that restaurant did that? That's nuts!

I've been there a few times, never again (if it's still there).

[Cleita]

18. I think it's under different ownership, but I don't know if

it's still hostile to gays.

[tofuandbeer]

20. Yeah, it's been there a long time, so you're probably right about change of ownership.

[Bluenorthwest]

15. That sign went up in 1953 and came down in 1984. It has been down for 30

years. Barney died in 1968, 4 years after the sign became nationally famous. It was a slur, but misspelled in 'Get A Brain,Moran' fashion, it said 'Fagots Stay Out' and was one G short of the target.
Homophobes are always idiots. That was 30 years ago.

[Cleita]

21. I remember reading about it back then so my memory was

foggy on the details. This is why it mystifies me that legislators are trying to do this in the 21st century.

[mountain grammy]

11. This is about information and bringing these issues into the light of day..

more than 30 seconds on the nightly "news" if at all. The internet has exposed the nuts to all and the backlash is happening.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. Get Out The Vote. Purple State Voters need to know they have clueless people leading them.

Purple states have blue electorates and red executives / legislatures.

[randome]

17. They already know. What they need to do is learn to CARE about having clueless people lead them.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers, it's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]

[Bernardo de La Paz]

43. Pretty much true. Very good perspective.

[lillypaddle]

16. Amen, Brother

sing it!

[LittleGirl]

23. Listen, The Liberals in this country need to take over the message

and stop giving the microphone to the right wing. Where are all of the liberals on the sunday shows?
Why isn't the DNC running ads in states trying to bad mouth the ACA?

The liberals have lost the battle on messaging and needs to get it back.

[Luminous Animal]

32. Liberals need to stop watching Sunday shows and start supporting online liberal media.

[LittleGirl]

61. this liberal never watches the sunday shows

but they have lost the messaging and I'm sick of it.

[RC]

62. The DNC got taken over by the DLC.

The DLC now, is what used to be main line Republicans.


Too many people still think being a Democrat means being Liberal or Progressive. Not necessarily any more.
There is plenty of proof right here on DU of that.
Actual Liberals have not lost the message. We are being drowned out by those that have no clue as to where the actual Center is.

[LittleGirl]

63. drowned out is the best description thanks n/t

[treestar]

66. This kind of thinking is just lazy

A way of abandoning responsibility for self government. And insulting everyone else as if they can't make up their minds themselves and have to mindlessly follow what is said on the Sunday shows, etc. We have to be part of the messaging, not just sit there and criticize the way others do it. At least the others do it.

And the M$M has control over who goes on the shows. Why is Gramps McCain always on there? They want to promote what he says.

[LittleGirl]

76. What I mean is...

why do the right wing always get the microphone. Where are the LIBERAL SHOWS? I don't care who owns the media, the wrong party (obviously) is getting their message out and the liberals are losing that right now.

[benld74]

24. What I would like to hear/know is when

it is discovered which group is responsible for almost identical bills in separate states around the same time. When THAT news comes out I HOPE it is SHOUTED across the rooftops by one and all. Gotta put lights on cockroaches when they attempt to scurry back into their crevases.

[Luminous Animal]

31. Koch. They've miscalculated the generosity of youth.

[Volaris]

25. i think its safe to say the culture wars are over...

The gen x-er's (well,most of us anyway) and the Millen's arent buying hate as as a tool of differentation anymore, and its going to KILL the reagan coalation version of the GOP.
Thank God.

[Luminous Animal]

30. Really. The renewed fight has just begun. On the agenda as well, tackling the racist prison complex,

re-tackling reproductive rights, re-tackling voting rights.

[bvar22]

80. ... not to mention Workers Rights, Human Rights, and Organized LABOR

!

[treestar]

67. +1 And the right is making its desperate last stands

This law is so clearly unconstitutional, and they know it, but they are just desperate to attempt to be able to set the clock back. By now they know their efforts are futile in the long run.

[Liberal_in_LA]

33. yes!

[indepat]

34. Whack 'em hard, often, and with panache and aplomb

[allan01]

35. re:Don't Know If You Are Watching MSNBC Right Now But Important Stuff Here: View profile

Last edited Wed Feb 26, 2014, 11:34 PM - Edit history (1)

when the nfl starts to take steps to move superbowl and businnesses threaten to leave and vote with their feet , youd better listen and when WE THE PEOPLE get angry against the very thing our fore fathers fought against , justice . thanks for postin.
on edit: the party of NO, was handed defeat by the people saying no to this .

[The Wizard]

38. As the Reagan mystique wanes

bigotry is losing its appeal and the Reagan demographic is shrinking from attrition.

[hatrack]

50. Wasn't aware there was any "mystique" (don't remember it from the time) . . .

But delighted to watch the continued shrinking of that particular demographic, of course.

[DeSwiss]

41. K&R

''Use social media, traditional media, keep articles, videos, speeches, and anything else to whack these right-wing fuckwads up against the heads in 2014.''

''Use social media, traditional media, keep articles, videos, speeches, and anything else to whack these right-wing fuckwads up side the head in 2014.''

/fixed

[Vinnie From Indy]

48. The GOP is minting tens of thousands of new Democrats every week they obstruct

extending benefits to the unemployed. By Novemeber FIVE million will have been denied benefits. Oddly, the GOP must think these are all Democrats. You can bet that millions are Republicans and they are probably astounded and quite pissed that their own party has abandoned them and their families. That will have an impact on the 2014 elections.

[Jasana]

49. K&R - LOL - "Right-wing fuckwads" nt

[WillyT]

53. I Had An Ex-Girlfriend That Used That Term To Great Effect...

Stole it.

[aquart]

73. But what does it really say? What framing does it alter?

They made "liberal" an insult. Don't let them claim "conservative" or anything else. How about "$24 billion-wasting shutdown lover"? Or just "shutdown lover"? Or "billionaire's butt-kisser"?

[silvershadow]

51. Dear Republicans: When Jan Brewer is the sane voice in your party, your party is in trouble. nt

[alfredo]

52. Even better news, in Ky a judge has ordered the state to

Recognize same sex marriage.

[WillyT]

54. Here it Comes Again...

[BuelahWitch]

57. Ohio is backing down...

http://www.wsls.com/story/24833256/ohio-bill-on-religion-gay-rights-is-withdrawn

"State lawmakers in Ohio withdrew legislation Wednesday that mirrors an Arizona bill that's come under fire for protecting those who assert their religious beliefs in refusing service to gays.
Republican state Rep. Tim Derickson and Democratic state Rep. Bill Patmon issued a joint statement citing concern over the bill's unintended consequences.

"The intent of (our bill) was to ensure Ohioans' religious freedom by protecting their ability to freely worship and preventing any laws from burdening the free exercise of religion," their statement said. "However, with the controversy that is occurring in Arizona, we feel that it is in the best interest of Ohioans that there be no further consideration of this legislation."

Debate on the bill has been indefinitely postponed, House Speaker William Batchelder's office said."

[redqueen]

69. Excellent. nt

[Skittles]

59. "TURN ON MSNBC RIGHT FUGGING NOW" not good enough for you, WillyT?

I WILL KICK YOUR POLITE ASS

[ProSense]

64. What a wonderful thing

Democrats are going to win.

Where is everybody? This OP should have hundreds of recs!!!

[AAO]

68. Reporting for Whacking dury!

[DFW]

71. Money talks

When it talks loudly enough, even Jan Brewer listens.

It does not mean she has suddenly grown a conscience or a soul.

[Arugula Latte]

74. These bigoted a-holes don't yet realize what social media can do.

[underthematrix]

82. Yes!! people power and action are the best way to make change happen

Now we need to put that energy into ensuring that our immigrant families, especially their children have the same protections under the law. We need to turn the Congress completely blue so we can get immigration reform.

[debunkthis]

83. Actually

I gave up on MSNBC when I caught them running a misleading version of a story regarding the austerity demonstrations in Greece a while back. Not saying they are anything like Faux Snooze in that regard, but disappointing none the less.

Good message in the post though.

Keeping fighting folks, we can win justice across many fronts if we stand together!

[ReRe]

85. K&R

Absoeffinglutely! A huge WAVE across the US. Let's just flip this country into the future.
I'm talking general election numbers. GTVO!

[tridim]

86. Public ridicule is the most powerful tool we have against the regressives.

It is amplified by the Internet to the point that it can no longer be ignored.

[Helen Borg]

87. They keep living in their little bubble

And now the bubble has exploded. Popcorn time!

[indepat]

88. Maybe more and more people are getting fed up with hatred guised as acceptable in the purveyor's

brand of religiosity.