At what point will gun violence become so bad that ALL guns rights will be revoked?

[Junkdrawer]

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Do we really have to get to a point where the sound of gunfire at night becomes as common as, say, Baghdad circa 2005?

The increasing volume of gun sales and the percieved need to use said guns under increasingly flimsy circumstances tells me that that day is not far off at all.

[TexasProgresive]

1. Careful

They'll say it was an Obama plot for Z-man to shot that boy.

[SlimJimmy]

2. A change that severe would require the repeal of the 2nd amendment.

Do you think that would ever happen in this country? I seriously doubt it.

[Junkdrawer]

10. If the SCOTUS changes its mind, all bets are off...

Dred Scott was the law of the land...until the Supremes said it wasn't.

[Nye Bevan]

19. Nope. Dred Scott was the law, until the Constitution was amended.

Which would also be needed to get rid of the "right to bear arms".

[Bjorn Against]

3. It would only happen if a revolution happened

Until there is an armed revolution guns will not be banned in this country.

[RKP5637]

5. I guess if they declared martial law for some reason guns would be confiscated, at least those

in the open ... I guess sales would be banned too ... I have no idea, was just thinking what would happen.

[RKP5637]

4. Around here there are several murders a night from gun fire. n/t

[onenote]

13. where is "around here"?

[RKP5637]

16. Areas of downtown Kansas City.

[L0oniX]

22. ...and that is not the only place.

People will say "well move out then". I guess maybe "stand your ground" might apply if you can't afford to move away?

[guitar man]

6. How would we take them away from the cops?

[Thinkingabout]

7. Perhaps NRA should be required to spend

As much money on educating gun owes as they spend on lobbying.

[Earth_First]

8. Hopefully never...

Just because one yahoo cannot responsibly own a firearm does not mean that another should not be able to.

[hack89]

9. Since gun violence is at historic lows and has been steadily declining for decades

the answer is most likely "never".

America has it's lowest rates of violent crime including murder in 50 years.

On edit: here are the stats:

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ucr

[RC]

11. Ain't never gonna happen.

Look at all the guns in all of our war zones. Our war mongers will make sure we are well armed for their amusement, if nothing else. The military and now their cousins, the police will always be better armed, so no worry.

[FarCenter]

12. Only military, police, investigative services, DAs, judges, private guard services, would have them?

Plus all the wealthy and/or criminals?

Ordinary people would resort to edge weapons. Knives are easy to make. People have been making them for a few hundred thousand years.

[hack89]

14. It is supprising how many progressives have no problem with a police state. nt

[FarCenter]

17. And "to protect and serve" is just Orwellian double talk

There are too few police, spread too thinly to actually protect anyone. At least anyone other than the "most important" members of society.

In the vast majority of cases, the 911 call brings them to the scene after the crime has been committed, as was the case with Trayon.

[peacebird]

15. Never

[cherokeeprogressive]

18. ALL gun rights will NEVER be revoked.

Imagine the logistics involved in what you're thinking. A building-to-building, house-to-house, room-to-room, vehicle-to-vehicle search would be necessary in order to confiscate all guns.

In my wildest imagination I cannot see that or anything approaching it come to pass. It would surely lead to civil war IMO. And, in a country where the government has guns and the citizens do not, the FEMA camps built by Halliburton that everyone was so freaked out about recently could actually exist and be used.

[slackmaster]

20. Violent crime in the USA has been trending down since about 1994

But don't let facts influence public policy.

[MadHound]

21. "Well the philosophy seems to be, at least near as I can see,"

"When other folks give up theirs I'll give mine"

[tammywammy]

23. Locking

There is no direct discussion of the Trayvon Martin case which is "really big news."

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