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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBernie Sanders: 的 Am Prepared to Run For President of the United States (NOT a formal announcement)
John Nichols: Are you going to run for president in 2016?
Bernie Sanders: I don't wake up every morning, as some people here in Washington do and say, "You know, I really have to be president of the United States. I was born to be president of the United States." What I do wake up every morning feeling is that this country faces more serious problems than at any time since the Great Depression, and there is a horrendous lack of serious political discourse or ideas out there that can address these crises, and that somebody has got to represent the working-class and the middle-class of this country in standing up to the big-money interests who have so much power over the economic and political life of this country. So I am prepared to run for president of the United States. I don't believe that I am the only person out there who can fight this fight, but I am certainly prepared to look seriously at that race.
Nichols; When you say you are "prepared to run," that can be read in two ways. One is to say you have the credentials, the prominence, the following to seek the office. The other is to say that you are making preparations for a run. How do you parse that?
Sanders: If the question is, am I actively right now organizing and raising money and so forth for a campaign for president, I am not doing that. On the other hand, am I talking to people around the country? Yes, I am. Will I be doing some traveling around the country? Yes, I will be. But I think it's premature to be talking about (the specifics of) a campaign when we still have a 2014 congressional race in front of us.
Nichols: I want to push pack at some of what you are saying. Political insiders define presidential politics, and they are already hard at work, in both major parties and in the broader sense, to erect barriers to insurgent, dissident, populist campaigns. Don't progressives who come at the process slowly run the risk of finding that everything has been locked up by the time they get serious about running?
Sanders: Obviously, if I run, both in terms of the positions that I'll be advocating, and the process itself, it will have to be a very unconventional campaign. I hear what you are saying, and I think there is truth in what you are saying. But, on the other hand, I think there is profound disgust among the American people for the conventional political process and the never-ending campaigns. If I run, my job is to help bring together the kind of coalition that can winthat can transform politics. Weve got to bring together trade unionists and working families, our minority communities, environmentalists, young people, the womens community, the gay community, seniors, veterans, the people who in fact are the vast majority of the American population. Weve got to create a progressive agenda and rally people around that agenda.
I think we've got a message that can resonate, that people want to hear, that people need to hear. Time is very important. But I don't think it makes senseor that it is necessaryto start a campaign this early.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/178717/bernie-sanders-i-am-prepared-run-president-united-states#
Samantha
(9,314 posts)I would vote for Bernie in a heartbeat.
Sam
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Change I could believe in!
ladjf
(17,320 posts)However, I have confidence in Mrs. Clinton and would definitely support her if she becomes the nominee.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)adirondacker
(2,921 posts)aquart
(69,014 posts)The sacrifice who runs to pull the policies left.
It's a thankless, stressful job and I hope he's cleared it with his doctor.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)The Masked Shrike
(14 posts)Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)unfortunately I don't see either one being sleazy enough or willing to lick the behinds of the special interests, including corporations, to get the donations and support to win. In fact their policies are anathema to money interests.
I will vote for HC if she gets the nomination but we can expect more of the same - more corporatism, more outsourcing of American jobs and giveaways to corporations. She will do a much better job than any R candidate in terms of social issues but I don't see much daylight between her and the Rs on jobs.
That's where BS and EW are the best.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)...including me (I know her fundraiser).
Except, many of the liberal 1%ers will be backing Hillary Clinton.
like Elizabeth Warren...
INdemo
(7,024 posts)Correct? Hillary has billionaires waiting for her to make up her mind. It would be more of the same except that Hillary could not give those impressive speeches as Obama does. In other words she is not the bullshitter that President Obama is.
Snaders/Warrren would be great and when and where can I send my money in
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)smokey nj
(43,853 posts)once and she was, to my surprise, a fan. She doesn't agree with him politically, but she appreciates that he doesn't talk down to her or bullshit her. Bernie gets it.
wandy
(3,539 posts)I would support a Bernie Sanders / Elisabeth Warren ticket in a silly minute!
Bernie, your one of the few politicos I might have any trust in.
Just one favor.
Do so as a member of the Democratic party.
Doing otherwise will just split the vote.
The very thought of a President walker, or President santorum, or if there is a god may they forgive , a third President bush, frightens the living hell out of me.
Sure Bernie I know. Sometimes you don't agree with Dems. Sometimes I don't either.
Its just that the thought of President rand paul,,, well,,,,,,
well,,,,,,
How many cuss words can you say here before you get banned?
We can get those that like Bernie to vote for another Democrat but we can't get those Democrats that like someone else to vote for Bernie. Therefore, he doesn't have a chance.
wandy
(3,539 posts)Hillery, Warren, Bernie, Grayson, all fine and good!
mike fuckabee, the 45 president?
I don't think so.
kentuck
(115,406 posts)So that your vote isn't split??
wandy
(3,539 posts)In terms of primaries, at this moment in time I would go with Alan Grayson.
Sure he has his deficients, and he is a bit of a loudmouth.
Maybe we need that.
Think about the absolute crap President Obama put up with from Eric Cantor.
Grayson might well have served Cantor his ass on a platter.
This doesn't mean that I couldn't make strong arguments for Hillery or Warren.
The only exception would be Joe Biden.
Smoking Joe is just too darn good at what he does.
Biden is disqualified as he should be appointed VP for life.
Martin Eden
(15,629 posts)... otherwise, the people who love him now would hate him like the incarnation of Ralph Nader if he split the vote enough to put a ruthug in the White House.
But how, exactly, does an Independent win the Democratic primary?
AZ Mike
(468 posts)I took a "Who's your candidate?" quiz during 2012 and scored a 92% to Obama - surprisingly to me. Perhaps the subconscious me is more centrist economically, but the conscious me would work as hard as hell as I could for the honorable Senator Sanders.
Even if his ultimate effect is essentially an Overton Window to the Left, I'll take that effect for what it means to the nominee. I'm tired of the incremental pulls to the right - we need some pull to the left. Bernie may do AT LEAST just that in his powerful, convincing, and effective style....
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)perhaps the first real discussion of fundamental issues within living memory of most Americans
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)A government that only acts on behalf of business can't possibly be democratic.
A party that serves only in exchange for campaign funds, graft from inside trading/special contacts and deferred deals available through revolving doors controlled by corporate giving can't possibly be democratic.
Go Bernie!
Keep the pressure on their rhetoric, they might come to believe in it...again.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Which is what we would have with Hillary.
malthaussen
(18,569 posts)And I think his "preparation to run" is more in the vein of trying to inject some leftward-movement into the party, rather than seriously contemplating running. Much as I love the guy, I don't think he could beat the Dem machine that wants a more "centerist" (read "rightist"
candidate.
-- Mal
cali
(114,904 posts)certain directions and in order to bring things up that don't get talked about.
It's not about thinking he's going to win.
And yes, he really is serious.
LoisB
(13,028 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Electing another Bush or Clinton is hardly the answer to our problems. We must have Bernie or Elizabeth Warren.
C0RYH0FFMAN
(20 posts)Because the nation is so split that independents can really swing things. I would like for him to get into the Democratic Primary so as infuse our so-called progressive party with more progressive ideas. Anyway, I hope he keeps at least being open to the idea so that the Democratic Party brass don't short change progressives.
More importantly, I think would use more Independents, Greens and Progressives in the "safe" House districts and "safe" Senate races to influence more members of Congress with progressive ideas.
For instance, in Ohio's 9th district, there is a 100% Plus Democratic Advantage and that is not even including the independents who lean Democrat. The chances of a Republican winning in the general election are about as good as a Libertarians. It is the perfect opportunity to influence a high profile Democrat with the insights of Modern Monetary Theory in a general election as a Progressive Independent.
CoryHoffmanForCongress.com
twitter.com/C0RYH0FFMAN
www.facebook.com/CoryHoffmanForCongress
bobGandolf
(871 posts)You would have my vote. Not opposed to Warren as VP either.
thesquanderer
(13,006 posts)Warren would be a great choice.
Who else?
Robert Reich? Russ Feingold?
pa28
(6,145 posts)The public is hungry for a real alternative. They'll respond to your message.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Time to get it "out of the family". We need a fresh look at how this country is run, and get someone in there that actually cares about the middle class.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)I would hate to see "Sanders" become an anagram for "S.S. Nader".
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)a concern many DUers had.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)His candidacy would be third-party, unless he formally joins the Democrats. I don't think he would do that.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)I don't think Sanders would join the Democrats because I think he has too much integrity to do that to his constituency, who prefers him as an Independent.
I hope he runs - I'll canvass to make it happen, if needed.
nyabingi
(1,145 posts)I'd like to see any combination of Bernie, Elizabeth Warren and Barbara Lee on a presidential ticket in 2016!
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)If he runs for President and loses, can he still be a senator in that state? I would hate for him to lose his seat and the run for the WH.
Still, I am sooooooo happy that he will try it!!!!!
Conch
(80 posts)If John McCain is any example.
Welcome to DU!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Let alone the General, and no doubt he knows that. And at his age, maybe he shouldn't win.
I still think he should run because it would force the debate to the left.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)"YES WE CAN"...we just have to believe we can.
Even if he runs and loses, he would get a big enough following to scare the bejeezus out of all the other politicians. We can at least show the country that we are disgusted and ready to see change. We all thought so with Obama, and we did get a lot of good stuff with Obama, but not the progressive changes we were hoping for. I don't blame Obama for that. I blame the party of no for most of that. But Obama is not a Bernie Sanders. Bernie has never swayed in his passion for protecting the people who make up most of this country. Now if he can follow in Obama's footsteps in going grassroots on fund raising and energy building we might have a chance.
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)Yes, as in Wanda...
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)I'm all in!
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Joe Biden has more or less said he would give it a shot. He thinks he can ''out truth'' Hillary. Why she's such a "Gibraltar" I have no idea .. she's just a third way Democrat = corporatist.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)kentuck
(115,406 posts)You're not going to hire Tim Geithner, are you?? Or Bob Gates?
watoos
(7,142 posts)because he would win, without Diebolt rigging. Then Repugs would realize the country is not center right.
I think Julio Castro for V.P, winning Texas would seal the deal.
GRACIEBIRD
(94 posts)That's a candidate that I'm 100% sure would bring change!!!
G_j
(40,569 posts)in a landslide
JPZenger
(6,819 posts)I'd be happy if Sanders ran as a Democrat. A competitive primary stirs public interest and media attention, and strengthens candidates and organizations as they get ready for the general election. It also raises many issues that deserve public debate.
I just hope he doesn't pull a Nader and form a 3rd party and help elect another George W.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)frwrfpos
(517 posts)Beacool
(30,518 posts)That turned out so well for the Democrats..........
N_E_1 for Tennis
(13,032 posts)the biggest problem is money.
Once you forfeit yourself to big money, the kind that can get you elected, everyone seems to lose their soul. You owe them. That's a huge problem no matter who runs.
Now a days it take toooo much money to run. Way way way toooo much.
You accept those dirty dollars, you owe people.
If we could find a candidate that could run without corporate dollars, stay true to the people, then we might have a great president. Someone who without owing anyone except the voters that got that person there, we might have representation.
Bernie may be that man. I really don't know. I can only hope there is someone out there that is.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Obama spent a billion or more in 2012--and he did have infrastructure--and he was the incumbent.
It would be a monumental task for someone known mostly to political junkies to raise that kind of money, especially given that he cannot tap into either the Republican donors or most Democratic donors. ( I doubt the big money girls and boys are going to take a chance on Bernie over the Dem nominee, but I could be wrong.)
I still think that Bernie is talking this way to try to move the country left. And, if he runs for the Presidency, that will be the purpose of his run.
Whatever he does, I wish him everything good.