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YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 02:59 PM Mar 2014

Bernie Sanders: 的 Am Prepared to Run For President of the United States (NOT a formal announcement)

John Nichols: Are you going to run for president in 2016?

Bernie Sanders: I don't wake up every morning, as some people here in Washington do and say, "You know, I really have to be president of the United States. I was born to be president of the United States." What I do wake up every morning feeling is that this country faces more serious problems than at any time since the Great Depression, and there is a horrendous lack of serious political discourse or ideas out there that can address these crises, and that somebody has got to represent the working-class and the middle-class of this country in standing up to the big-money interests who have so much power over the economic and political life of this country. So I am prepared to run for president of the United States. I don't believe that I am the only person out there who can fight this fight, but I am certainly prepared to look seriously at that race.

Nichols; When you say you are "prepared to run," that can be read in two ways. One is to say you have the credentials, the prominence, the following to seek the office. The other is to say that you are making preparations for a run. How do you parse that?

Sanders: If the question is, am I actively right now organizing and raising money and so forth for a campaign for president, I am not doing that. On the other hand, am I talking to people around the country? Yes, I am. Will I be doing some traveling around the country? Yes, I will be. But I think it's premature to be talking about (the specifics of) a campaign when we still have a 2014 congressional race in front of us.

Nichols: I want to push pack at some of what you are saying. Political insiders define presidential politics, and they are already hard at work, in both major parties and in the broader sense, to erect barriers to insurgent, dissident, populist campaigns. Don't progressives who come at the process slowly run the risk of finding that everything has been locked up by the time they get serious about running?

Sanders: Obviously, if I run, both in terms of the positions that I'll be advocating, and the process itself, it will have to be a very unconventional campaign. I hear what you are saying, and I think there is truth in what you are saying. But, on the other hand, I think there is profound disgust among the American people for the conventional political process and the never-ending campaigns. If I run, my job is to help bring together the kind of coalition that can win—that can transform politics. We’ve got to bring together trade unionists and working families, our minority communities, environmentalists, young people, the women’s community, the gay community, seniors, veterans, the people who in fact are the vast majority of the American population. We’ve got to create a progressive agenda and rally people around that agenda.

I think we've got a message that can resonate, that people want to hear, that people need to hear. Time is very important. But I don't think it makes sense—or that it is necessary—to start a campaign this early.


http://www.thenation.com/blog/178717/bernie-sanders-i-am-prepared-run-president-united-states#

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Bernie Sanders: 的 Am Prepared to Run For President of the United States (NOT a formal announcement) (Original Post) YoungDemCA Mar 2014 OP
He and Elizabeth Warren would make a great team Samantha Mar 2014 #1
Absolutely! FiveGoodMen Mar 2014 #16
For sure! BlueJac Mar 2014 #25
Count me in. He as Senator Warren would be a fabulous team. ladjf Mar 2014 #36
+1 reformist2 Mar 2014 #56
I'm prepared to vote for him. HappyMe Mar 2014 #2
+1 RGinNJ Mar 2014 #21
Graceful! Big Kay & ARghh! nt adirondacker Mar 2014 #3
He's volunteering to be the outlier. aquart Mar 2014 #4
Uh-oh, this place could get messy with a Sanders candidacy. n/t Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #5
It will be messy as long as HRC runs. nt. The Masked Shrike Mar 2014 #41
He and Elizabeth Warren would have my vote....... Swede Atlanta Mar 2014 #6
Elizabeth Warren has no problem tapping 1%ers for money... brooklynite Mar 2014 #15
So you would agree that HC is not a liberal but more of corporacrat INdemo Mar 2014 #50
Count me among the profoundly disgusted he can count on. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #7
I have a sister who was brainwashed by Rush Limbaugh in the 90s. I discussed Bernie Sanders with her smokey nj Mar 2014 #8
Bernie, I love ya................ wandy Mar 2014 #9
Exactly dbackjon Mar 2014 #19
Right... kentuck Mar 2014 #51
I want Bernie to have a chance. I just don't want to split the vote............... wandy Mar 2014 #53
So, which do you vote for...? kentuck Mar 2014 #60
Well I guessed I asked for that so here goes............ wandy Mar 2014 #61
Yes, he must run as a Democrat ... Martin Eden Mar 2014 #64
Sanders is my political ideal. AZ Mike Mar 2014 #10
He's running Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #11
he could open up the political discourse in a way we have not seen in more than forty years Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #12
Seems to go beyond "You might think that...but I couldn't possible comment." HereSince1628 Mar 2014 #13
Bernie or Elizabeth Warren. We do not want another 1980s Republican. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #14
He's absolutely right about 2014. malthaussen Mar 2014 #17
He's thinking of running in order to push the conversation in cali Mar 2014 #20
I wish he would. I am prepared to vote for him. LoisB Mar 2014 #18
The nation appears to be completely fucked. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #22
Presidential Elections are Tough.... C0RYH0FFMAN Mar 2014 #23
Love to see you run Bernie! bobGandolf Mar 2014 #24
VP would be an especially big issue because of his age thesquanderer Mar 2014 #27
Do it Bernie. pa28 Mar 2014 #26
I would take him over Hilliary any day SmittynMo Mar 2014 #28
Whatever you do, Bernie, do not go third-party KamaAina Mar 2014 #29
IIRC, he's said before he wouldn't go third party. n/t winter is coming Mar 2014 #32
Excellent! KamaAina Mar 2014 #33
We went through a round of discussing Bernie a couple of months back, and that was winter is coming Mar 2014 #34
Bernie is an Independent, not a Democrat. Maedhros Mar 2014 #43
From the last time this was discussed... winter is coming Mar 2014 #46
Clarification: Maedhros Mar 2014 #54
Bernie tells it like it is! nyabingi Mar 2014 #30
Works for me! GO BERNIE!!! Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #31
What is the law in Vermont? sadoldgirl Mar 2014 #35
He would still remain Senator. Conch Mar 2014 #38
Hello bigwillq Mar 2014 #42
His term is up in 2018 so it would not matter. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #40
He probly has no chance of winning the Primary, Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #37
I'd like to see him primary Hillary passiveporcupine Mar 2014 #39
Sanders/Sykes '16 Earth_First Mar 2014 #44
Run Bernie, Run! Fuddnik Mar 2014 #45
He would definitely hold Hillary's feet to the fire .. love to hear that debate. YOHABLO Mar 2014 #47
He's the third most-popular Senator... KansDem Mar 2014 #48
Tell me who is going to be in your Cabinet, Bernie... kentuck Mar 2014 #49
He would make Repugs heads explode watoos Mar 2014 #52
"talk about hope and change" GRACIEBIRD Mar 2014 #55
I believe he could win G_j Mar 2014 #57
if he runs as a Dem great. If he runs like Ralph Nader, screw him. JPZenger Mar 2014 #58
I like Bernie but....there goes 2016 unless he runs Dem. nt kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #59
DU rec frwrfpos Mar 2014 #62
He can run all he wants, but he has as much chance of winning as Nader did in 2000. Beacool Mar 2014 #63
I love Bernie, so don't get me wrong when I say... N_E_1 for Tennis Mar 2014 #65
He also said he has no infrastructure and would not run as a Dem. merrily Mar 2014 #66

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
36. Count me in. He as Senator Warren would be a fabulous team.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 04:42 PM
Mar 2014

However, I have confidence in Mrs. Clinton and would definitely support her if she becomes the nominee.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
4. He's volunteering to be the outlier.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:10 PM
Mar 2014

The sacrifice who runs to pull the policies left.

It's a thankless, stressful job and I hope he's cleared it with his doctor.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
6. He and Elizabeth Warren would have my vote.......
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:14 PM
Mar 2014

unfortunately I don't see either one being sleazy enough or willing to lick the behinds of the special interests, including corporations, to get the donations and support to win. In fact their policies are anathema to money interests.

I will vote for HC if she gets the nomination but we can expect more of the same - more corporatism, more outsourcing of American jobs and giveaways to corporations. She will do a much better job than any R candidate in terms of social issues but I don't see much daylight between her and the Rs on jobs.

That's where BS and EW are the best.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
15. Elizabeth Warren has no problem tapping 1%ers for money...
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:50 PM
Mar 2014

...including me (I know her fundraiser).

Except, many of the liberal 1%ers will be backing Hillary Clinton.

like Elizabeth Warren...

INdemo

(7,024 posts)
50. So you would agree that HC is not a liberal but more of corporacrat
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 05:56 PM
Mar 2014

Correct? Hillary has billionaires waiting for her to make up her mind. It would be more of the same except that Hillary could not give those impressive speeches as Obama does. In other words she is not the bullshitter that President Obama is.
Snaders/Warrren would be great and when and where can I send my money in

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
8. I have a sister who was brainwashed by Rush Limbaugh in the 90s. I discussed Bernie Sanders with her
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:20 PM
Mar 2014

once and she was, to my surprise, a fan. She doesn't agree with him politically, but she appreciates that he doesn't talk down to her or bullshit her. Bernie gets it.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
9. Bernie, I love ya................
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:23 PM
Mar 2014

I would support a Bernie Sanders / Elisabeth Warren ticket in a silly minute!
Bernie, your one of the few politicos I might have any trust in.
Just one favor.

Do so as a member of the Democratic party.
Doing otherwise will just split the vote.

The very thought of a President walker, or President santorum, or if there is a god may they forgive , a third President bush, frightens the living hell out of me.

Sure Bernie I know. Sometimes you don't agree with Dems. Sometimes I don't either.
Its just that the thought of President rand paul,,, well,,,,,,
well,,,,,,
How many cuss words can you say here before you get banned?


kentuck

(115,406 posts)
51. Right...
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 05:57 PM
Mar 2014

We can get those that like Bernie to vote for another Democrat but we can't get those Democrats that like someone else to vote for Bernie. Therefore, he doesn't have a chance.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
53. I want Bernie to have a chance. I just don't want to split the vote...............
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 06:45 PM
Mar 2014

Hillery, Warren, Bernie, Grayson, all fine and good!
mike fuckabee, the 45 president?
I don't think so.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
61. Well I guessed I asked for that so here goes............
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 12:35 AM
Mar 2014

In terms of primaries, at this moment in time I would go with Alan Grayson.
Sure he has his deficients, and he is a bit of a loudmouth.
Maybe we need that.
Think about the absolute crap President Obama put up with from Eric Cantor.
Grayson might well have served Cantor his ass on a platter.

This doesn't mean that I couldn't make strong arguments for Hillery or Warren.

The only exception would be Joe Biden.
Smoking Joe is just too darn good at what he does.
Biden is disqualified as he should be appointed VP for life.

Martin Eden

(15,629 posts)
64. Yes, he must run as a Democrat ...
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 02:28 PM
Mar 2014

... otherwise, the people who love him now would hate him like the incarnation of Ralph Nader if he split the vote enough to put a ruthug in the White House.

But how, exactly, does an Independent win the Democratic primary?

AZ Mike

(468 posts)
10. Sanders is my political ideal.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:27 PM
Mar 2014

I took a "Who's your candidate?" quiz during 2012 and scored a 92% to Obama - surprisingly to me. Perhaps the subconscious me is more centrist economically, but the conscious me would work as hard as hell as I could for the honorable Senator Sanders.

Even if his ultimate effect is essentially an Overton Window to the Left, I'll take that effect for what it means to the nominee. I'm tired of the incremental pulls to the right - we need some pull to the left. Bernie may do AT LEAST just that in his powerful, convincing, and effective style....

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
12. he could open up the political discourse in a way we have not seen in more than forty years
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:31 PM
Mar 2014

perhaps the first real discussion of fundamental issues within living memory of most Americans

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
13. Seems to go beyond "You might think that...but I couldn't possible comment."
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:33 PM
Mar 2014

A government that only acts on behalf of business can't possibly be democratic.

A party that serves only in exchange for campaign funds, graft from inside trading/special contacts and deferred deals available through revolving doors controlled by corporate giving can't possibly be democratic.

Go Bernie!

Keep the pressure on their rhetoric, they might come to believe in it...again.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
14. Bernie or Elizabeth Warren. We do not want another 1980s Republican.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:50 PM
Mar 2014

Which is what we would have with Hillary.

malthaussen

(18,569 posts)
17. He's absolutely right about 2014.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:52 PM
Mar 2014

And I think his "preparation to run" is more in the vein of trying to inject some leftward-movement into the party, rather than seriously contemplating running. Much as I love the guy, I don't think he could beat the Dem machine that wants a more "centerist" (read "rightist&quot candidate.

-- Mal

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
20. He's thinking of running in order to push the conversation in
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:56 PM
Mar 2014

certain directions and in order to bring things up that don't get talked about.

It's not about thinking he's going to win.

And yes, he really is serious.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
22. The nation appears to be completely fucked.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:56 PM
Mar 2014

Electing another Bush or Clinton is hardly the answer to our problems. We must have Bernie or Elizabeth Warren.

C0RYH0FFMAN

(20 posts)
23. Presidential Elections are Tough....
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:59 PM
Mar 2014

Because the nation is so split that independents can really swing things. I would like for him to get into the Democratic Primary so as infuse our so-called progressive party with more progressive ideas. Anyway, I hope he keeps at least being open to the idea so that the Democratic Party brass don't short change progressives.

More importantly, I think would use more Independents, Greens and Progressives in the "safe" House districts and "safe" Senate races to influence more members of Congress with progressive ideas.

For instance, in Ohio's 9th district, there is a 100% Plus Democratic Advantage and that is not even including the independents who lean Democrat. The chances of a Republican winning in the general election are about as good as a Libertarians. It is the perfect opportunity to influence a high profile Democrat with the insights of Modern Monetary Theory in a general election as a Progressive Independent.

CoryHoffmanForCongress.com
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www.facebook.com/CoryHoffmanForCongress

thesquanderer

(13,006 posts)
27. VP would be an especially big issue because of his age
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 04:13 PM
Mar 2014

Warren would be a great choice.

Who else?

Robert Reich? Russ Feingold?

pa28

(6,145 posts)
26. Do it Bernie.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 04:12 PM
Mar 2014

The public is hungry for a real alternative. They'll respond to your message.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
28. I would take him over Hilliary any day
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 04:17 PM
Mar 2014

Time to get it "out of the family". We need a fresh look at how this country is run, and get someone in there that actually cares about the middle class.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
29. Whatever you do, Bernie, do not go third-party
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 04:24 PM
Mar 2014

I would hate to see "Sanders" become an anagram for "S.S. Nader".

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
34. We went through a round of discussing Bernie a couple of months back, and that was
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 04:30 PM
Mar 2014

a concern many DUers had.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
43. Bernie is an Independent, not a Democrat.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 05:22 PM
Mar 2014

His candidacy would be third-party, unless he formally joins the Democrats. I don't think he would do that.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
54. Clarification:
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 06:47 PM
Mar 2014

I don't think Sanders would join the Democrats because I think he has too much integrity to do that to his constituency, who prefers him as an Independent.

I hope he runs - I'll canvass to make it happen, if needed.

nyabingi

(1,145 posts)
30. Bernie tells it like it is!
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 04:24 PM
Mar 2014
Bernie would be awesome to have run because he'd definitely challenge Hillary, who's already been crowned the Democratic nominee in the media, from the left and reveal her weaknesses to a base that's a deal more progressive than she is.

I'd like to see any combination of Bernie, Elizabeth Warren and Barbara Lee on a presidential ticket in 2016!

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
35. What is the law in Vermont?
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 04:40 PM
Mar 2014

If he runs for President and loses, can he still be a senator in that state? I would hate for him to lose his seat and the run for the WH.
Still, I am sooooooo happy that he will try it!!!!!

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
37. He probly has no chance of winning the Primary,
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 05:02 PM
Mar 2014

Let alone the General, and no doubt he knows that. And at his age, maybe he shouldn't win.

I still think he should run because it would force the debate to the left.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
39. I'd like to see him primary Hillary
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 05:10 PM
Mar 2014

"YES WE CAN"...we just have to believe we can.

Even if he runs and loses, he would get a big enough following to scare the bejeezus out of all the other politicians. We can at least show the country that we are disgusted and ready to see change. We all thought so with Obama, and we did get a lot of good stuff with Obama, but not the progressive changes we were hoping for. I don't blame Obama for that. I blame the party of no for most of that. But Obama is not a Bernie Sanders. Bernie has never swayed in his passion for protecting the people who make up most of this country. Now if he can follow in Obama's footsteps in going grassroots on fund raising and energy building we might have a chance.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
47. He would definitely hold Hillary's feet to the fire .. love to hear that debate.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 05:47 PM
Mar 2014

Joe Biden has more or less said he would give it a shot. He thinks he can ''out truth'' Hillary. Why she's such a "Gibraltar" I have no idea .. she's just a third way Democrat = corporatist.

kentuck

(115,406 posts)
49. Tell me who is going to be in your Cabinet, Bernie...
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 05:54 PM
Mar 2014

You're not going to hire Tim Geithner, are you?? Or Bob Gates?

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
52. He would make Repugs heads explode
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 05:58 PM
Mar 2014

because he would win, without Diebolt rigging. Then Repugs would realize the country is not center right.

I think Julio Castro for V.P, winning Texas would seal the deal.

JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
58. if he runs as a Dem great. If he runs like Ralph Nader, screw him.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 06:56 PM
Mar 2014

I'd be happy if Sanders ran as a Democrat. A competitive primary stirs public interest and media attention, and strengthens candidates and organizations as they get ready for the general election. It also raises many issues that deserve public debate.

I just hope he doesn't pull a Nader and form a 3rd party and help elect another George W.

Beacool

(30,518 posts)
63. He can run all he wants, but he has as much chance of winning as Nader did in 2000.
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 01:08 AM
Mar 2014

That turned out so well for the Democrats..........

N_E_1 for Tennis

(13,032 posts)
65. I love Bernie, so don't get me wrong when I say...
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 02:49 PM
Mar 2014

the biggest problem is money.
Once you forfeit yourself to big money, the kind that can get you elected, everyone seems to lose their soul. You owe them. That's a huge problem no matter who runs.

Now a days it take toooo much money to run. Way way way toooo much.

You accept those dirty dollars, you owe people.

If we could find a candidate that could run without corporate dollars, stay true to the people, then we might have a great president. Someone who without owing anyone except the voters that got that person there, we might have representation.

Bernie may be that man. I really don't know. I can only hope there is someone out there that is.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
66. He also said he has no infrastructure and would not run as a Dem.
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 02:53 PM
Mar 2014

Obama spent a billion or more in 2012--and he did have infrastructure--and he was the incumbent.

It would be a monumental task for someone known mostly to political junkies to raise that kind of money, especially given that he cannot tap into either the Republican donors or most Democratic donors. ( I doubt the big money girls and boys are going to take a chance on Bernie over the Dem nominee, but I could be wrong.)

I still think that Bernie is talking this way to try to move the country left. And, if he runs for the Presidency, that will be the purpose of his run.

Whatever he does, I wish him everything good.

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