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A Final Warning From Rachel Maddow's Doc... Delivered By... Lawrence Wilkerson (Original Post) WillyT Mar 2014 OP
so will climate change and war. Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #1
I wish attention was paid to "why" oil in this special. nt valerief Mar 2014 #2
I was afraid this doc would be anti-climactic and would not present anything new... ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #3
Greed and profit then. lonestarnot Mar 2014 #4
Petrodollar? nt valerief Mar 2014 #5
Pssst.....Yes. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2014 #8
Ok, so make it three, lol. =) But there are probably a couple more. Cheney himself said that ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #10
What do you think the other "why" is? OnyxCollie Mar 2014 #6
You're New, Huh ??? WillyT Mar 2014 #7
What do you mean by that? I'm actually 50yo, which is not "new". To which ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #9
What I Mean By That... Is That It Really Doesn't Matter What YOU Know... WillyT Mar 2014 #11
Why loot all the museums? Downwinder Mar 2014 #12
My guess would be to destroy the Iraqi culture and identity... ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #13
Never figured that out. Downwinder Mar 2014 #14
??? 2naSalit Mar 2014 #15
 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
3. I was afraid this doc would be anti-climactic and would not present anything new...
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 11:15 PM
Mar 2014

It was and it didn't.

I would have liked to have seen the "why" of it too. There are two "why"s and one of them isn't profit motive.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,161 posts)
8. Pssst.....Yes.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 11:42 PM
Mar 2014

and ironically, the world is moving away from dollars...
Looks like we lost the currency war.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
10. Ok, so make it three, lol. =) But there are probably a couple more. Cheney himself said that
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 11:46 PM
Mar 2014

the Middle East is where the oil is. That implies that there's not much oil anywhere else to be had, at least not at production levels needed to maintain our way of life, which Cheney also commented on, saying our way of life was "non-negotiable". As it turns out, of course, he just meant HIS way of life is non-negotiable. He doesn't give a shit about our way of life.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
9. What do you mean by that? I'm actually 50yo, which is not "new". To which
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 11:43 PM
Mar 2014

part of my comment to you take exception? There was, indeed, NO NEW INFORMATION in this latest doc from Rachel. I am not "new" to the events of the last decade, nor am I naive about the rantings and manifestos of PNAC or the sneaky and extremely greedy oligarchs, BFEE, Cheneys, Kochs, etc.

I hadn't thought of the petrodollar aspect, so make it three whys (admittedly, there are probably more, none of them good of course). Greed, availability, and petrodollar. So, what about availibility? Maddow quotes the reason from Cheney: (Paraphrasing) "The Middle East is where the oil is." In other words, in order for Big Oil to continue to profit by $Billions into the future, they had to steal Iraq's oil because there is nowhere else for them to get it. That in itself if quite alarming considering our entire civilization is now and always will be dependent on oil.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
11. What I Mean By That... Is That It Really Doesn't Matter What YOU Know...
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 11:53 PM
Mar 2014

If we are to convince voters to our side... We need to know what THEY don't know...

And then show them the way to our side.

Otherwise... what's the point?





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2naSalit

(102,794 posts)
15. ???
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 01:41 AM
Mar 2014

The Holy Grail, perhaps?

I wasn't able to see the whole thing online, I think. It was hard to tell. There was Part 1 and three "web extra" mini segments but that was all. I was ready to watch something more compelling but it seemed that all I got to see was the lead-in.

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