And Yet... So Many So-Called Democrats Do Not Care If Snowden Has It Correct...

[WillyT]

Un-Fucking-Believable...

Let me simplify...

I Trust Snowden, WAY MORE Than My Own Government !!!

No link... just a lack of respect.

[itsrobert]

1. ahh, let me play the violin

[WillyT]

2. Actually... I Prefer Puccini... You Know Puccini Right ???

Nessun Dorma...

[Cha]

16. Let me join you..

Imv, Snowden is a liar with a persecution complex.. and I wouldn't trust him with my lunch money.

[WillyT]

17. What About The CIA Spying On The U.S. Senate ???

That cool too ???

[cui bono]

19. As long as the Obama admin does it, yes.

Not speaking for myself, of course. I stand by my principles even when my party leaders discard them.

[struggle4progress]

34. Who is making the allegation, and exactly what is alleged?

[SomethingFishy]

37. Here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024629512

Spying is all well and good until we spy on Congress. Then there is a fucking problem.

[Cleita]

3. So-called democrats is your answer. n/t

[FreakinDJ]

23. so many so-called Americans

[Pretzel_Warrior]

4. I sure wouldn't trust him to house sit for me

Let alone have access to my wifi password.

Face it. Your hero was part of the big story of government overreach that has spurred citizens to protest and demand change. He may be lauded in history books at some future date. But the entire way he went about this leaves a bad feeling with a lot of Americans and to this date it is hard to really trust his motives or half the shit spilling from his mouth since he became a resident of Russia.

[Justina For Justice]

7. Snowden Only in Russia Courtesy of U.S. Government.

The only reason Snowden is in Russia is because the U.S. canceled his passport while he was in Hong Kong and about to travel, via Russia and Cuba, to South America.

The U.S. government loves to demonize him for being in Russia, when they made sure he couldn't fly anywhere else.

The truth of that is proved by the fact that the U.S. government had its allies bring down the air plane in which the President of Boliva was flying through Europe to Boliva, believing that Snowden was on board. It is a very good thing he wasn't.

Snowden has been offered asylum by Venezuela, Nicaragua, Bolivia and Ecuador, but he can't safely get to any of those countries.

Snowden is a very brave man who has done an incredible service to not only America but the world.

Would that any of our Democratic congress people would show similar bravery and defy the CIA's absurd classification controls and tell the American people the truth about what the CIA is doing.

[cui bono]

22. +1

And welcome to DU.

[cui bono]

20. What do his motives have to do with it? How do his motives change what he divulged?

Hm? And he didn't choose to stay in Russia, so you can't hang that on him.

So if you don't trust Snowden, then do you think this is all made up? Do you think the NSA was not spying on anyone, anywhere? They were. So why don't you trust him?

[SomethingFishy]

38. Do you even know the slightest thing about our government?

Anyone who trusts them is a fool. The government has proven time and time again since Reagan that it's function is to fuck over it's citizens. To wage un-necessary wars, to shift the burden to the poor and middle class, to increase the wealth of the wealthy by stealing it from the workers. To deregulate industry and allow them to run rampant, polluting our water, our air, and our ground, stealing peoples homes and pensions.

You have been burned time and time again, over and over for the last 35 years..

Fool me once shame on you.. fool me twice.. Won't get fooled again...

Sucker.

[Cali_Democrat]

5. I thought it wasn't about Snowden?

Will you make up your damn mind!

[WillyT]

6. Who Do You Trust More... Seriously ??? - Snowden Or Washington ???

I'm putting my bets on Snowden.

In poker... it's called a "tell"... and the "tell" of the PTB is MASSIVE.

[Cali_Democrat]

9. Well Snowden did donate to Ron Paul and rail against social security....

...he also spouted NRA talking points in the past.

Should I trust him?

Nah....

[WillyT]

10. You Did NOT Answer The Question...

[Cali_Democrat]

12. Well you have to define "Washington"

There are some people in Washington I trust...and there are some that I don't.

But I certainly don't trust a Paulite like Snowden.

[Maedhros]

11. Blah, blah, blah. [n/t]

[Cali_Democrat]

14. Powerful post. nt

[Maedhros]

21. You're schtick is boring by now.

Doesn't warrant any more effort.

[Cali_Democrat]

30. So you want to make this personal and not discuss the issue in the OP?

Like I said....very powerful.

[SomethingFishy]

40. But you trust a government that has lied to you

stolen from you, cheated you and killed innocents in your name.

You trust a government that lied about Vietnam, Grenada, Iran/Contra and Iraq. You trust a government that sold weapons to a supposed enemy so they could use the money to finance "rebels" in yet another country.
You trust a country that does secret trade deals behind closed doors. You trust a government that signed The Patriot Act before they even read it.

You trust a government that collects your "meta data" just in case you decide to become a terrorist or a criminal.

But Snowden? That fucker donated to Ron Paul!!!!

[Fumesucker]

8. Oh they care all right

That's why Snowwald pisses them off so much, he's been shown largely correct and the steady drip of revelations is driving them around the bend.

[WillyT]

13. Well There's That...

[DeSwiss]

15. K&R

- I thought you knew.....

[Enthusiast]

18. K&R! I'm with you, WillyT.

It's a sad day when we can't trust the government. But they have proven time and again that they are not trustworthy.

[xchrom]

24. du rec.

[Scuba]

25. K&R

[gulliver]

27. "If Snowden Has It Correct..."

You seem to be losing your certainty. Good.

[JaneyVee]

28. I trust Obama way more than I trust Snowden.

Defecting to a country that dislikes us while stealing thousands of our documents doesn't look good, no matter what side of the political spectrum you're on.

[Autumn]

29. Notice how the mention of Snowden is driving them crazy? And not just a few

It's delightful, to answer the question I trust what Snowden has to say more than the administration that I voted for.

[840high]

31. So do I.

[ProSense]

32. "I Trust Snowden, WAY MORE Than My Own Government !!!"

Wow! The only thing missing is the Paul Revere image.

[Ikonoklast]

33. It's OK, Libertarians fool smarter people than you.

[Whisp]

35. you spelled respect wrong. n/t

[Zorra]

36. A primary characteristic of a conservative is the continued denial of the validity of facts that

counter her or his dearly held beliefs.

[jazzimov]

39. No, it's because many of us DON'T trust Snowden.

Maybe you trust Snowden, but not everyone does.

[KoKo]

41. Why IS THAT? Some Wonder... n't

[randome]

42. True objectivity requires continual reassessment of one's position.

If people aren't outraged and taking to the streets over the NSA, that is an indication -by no means conclusive of anything- that perhaps the issue is not all that important after all. Perhaps spy games conducted by the bureaucracy pale in comparison to people not having jobs, crumbling infrastructure, the ongoing crush of climate change, minority rights under attack, etc.

Perhaps it's time to reassess your position that this subject is deserving of post after post.
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[WillyT]

43. I'll Let DU Decide That, Thank You Very Much...

Besides... you show up post after post... maybe you should reassess...