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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums60 Years Ago tonight: Edward R Murrow called out Joe McCarthy
"No one familiar with the history of his country can deny that Congressional committees are useful. It is necessary to investigate before legislating. But the line between investigating and persecuting is a very fine one, and the junior senator from Wisconsin has stepped over it repeatedly."
Good night, and good luck.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Thespian2
(2,741 posts)In today's world, Edward R. Murrow would not be hired by any of the six corporations that control the media.
loudsue
(14,087 posts)manner. Now, 1/3 of our population are PROUD to be bat-shit crazy.
tridim
(45,358 posts)Nobody who votes for him, cares.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)Of course, any good journalists job is to REPORT the TRUTH. But Conservatives can't handle TRUTH when it calls their philosophy into question (which has been, traditionally, on the wrong side of History).
Soylent Brice
(8,308 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)A worthwhile and enjoyable movie, directed by George Clooney. (He has a relatively small part in the movie. He said he did it because he thought it would help box office.
longship
(40,416 posts)It's a very good flick. All the more effective because it uses actual footage and was filmed in black and white. But Straitharn is amazing.
R&K
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)What is stunning to me that History has given its verdict regarding McCarthy - pretty unanimously - yet the hard-core right still thinks he did good things. Talk about DIVORCED from REALITY!
merrily
(45,251 posts)Even if you went to one meeting, it seems that loon (Hoover or McCarthy pick one) had your name.
I don't think gooing to a meeting was even against the law then, though. The Communist Party was preaching fairness to workers and racial equality. (Whether they meant it or not is a different issue.) So, of course liberals would look into it.
merrily
(45,251 posts)was the best. I've read that he is "an actor's actor." Also that he lives way far from Hollywood and doesn't seem to care how much money he makes. (That movie was, of course, made on a small budget.) Casting director's dream.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I really need to.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Very well done.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Thus, Corporate McPravda today would never allow an Edward R. Murrow anywhere near a live microphone.
Thank you, Cooley Hurd. You grok the situation, my Friend.
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)hatrack
(59,578 posts)I'm not making this up, by the way.
EDIT
http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2014/03/60-minutes-mar-9.html
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)...the crocodile voted Dem in the last cycle.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Ratty
(2,100 posts)From Wikipedia:
Nevertheless, the broadcast contributed to a nationwide backlash against McCarthy and is seen as a turning point in the history of television. It provoked tens of thousands of letters, telegrams, and phone calls to CBS headquarters, running 15 to 1 in favor.[14] In a retrospective produced for Biography, Friendly noted how truck drivers pulled up to Murrow on the street in subsequent days and shouted "Good show, Ed. Good show, Ed."
left is right
(1,665 posts)I remember McCarthy as a scary, angry man. I have always said that scary man was one of the incidents that propelled me into being a life-long Democrat. (Growing upboth my parents were Republicans and remained that way until the 2nd administration of Nixon)
merrily
(45,251 posts)the single exception of having swallowed a big ole safety pin and my parents making me sit on my potty. even though they had just toilet trained me. I remember being afraid because it was confusing. I guess I would have been two or three? No clue. (TMI?)
But politics? Not even close.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)they placed upon events maybe.
I was 3 when Nixon's "I am not a crook" Q&A with the press happened. I remember sitting on the (ugly) brown patterned linoleum floor of our living room when my father (a Nixon supporter) said,"You are seeing history happen."
I was 4 when Hank Aaron trotted into the outfield for the Brewers at County Stadium, and my father said,"Someday you'll be able to tell your kids and grandkids that you saw one of the greatest ballplayers ever to play the game play the game..."
merrily
(45,251 posts)on my swallowing a huge safety pin. In hindsight, maybe they weren't sure if it was closed? I remember my father squatting in front of me and pretending to be straining for a bowel movement, to show me what he wanted. I can feel the confusion again. (I assume that they praised me a lot for getting trained, and here I was again, back to square 1, at their insistence!)
Sorry, but I am too tired to open another window and check: Did you say in your prior post that you were three for the calling out of McCarthy by Murrow? Or was it some other event?
I always wanted to have seen Ruth. Read a biography of him when I was in elementary school because my teacher said I was reading too much fiction.
Thing is, biographers back then pretty much wrote fiction, too. They saw their jobs as making the subject a hero, no warts showing. (How times change.) Read Sandburg's two volume biography of Lincoln at the same time for the same reason. An impressionable kid reading the glowing stories fell in love with both of them and am still in love with both of them, even though I've since learned about some of the warts. First love never goes away entirely.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)I was almost 5 when Saigon fell. I was 4 (almost 5) when Hank Aaron returned to Milwaukee to finish his career.
My father was only 9 when McCarthy ran rampant and Murrow called him out on it.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Otherwise, it would have been a hell of a third year. They say time goes by much more slowly when you're a kid (true), but that would have been ridiculous.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)It's been so long since I'd seen an actual journalist.
PEACE!
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)MarianJack
(10,237 posts)It's scary to think of how many people today remember freaking Tim Russert so fondly after he was admittedly OK with sea!thy media owners having him push their be and his obsessions with President Clinton's penis!
PEACE!
Martin Eden
(12,847 posts)A respected voice is listened to; do we have any television journalist of his stature today, with so wide an audience?
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)Rachel Maddow? Jon Stewart? Charlie Rose? Melissa Harris-Perry?
Any suggestions??
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)And, it's too bad, because if anyone were capable of emulating Edward R Morrow, it was Olbermann.
Here's an excerpt from one of his "Special Comments":
'This is a serious long-term war', the man at the podium cried, 'and it will inevitably lead us to want to know what is said in every suspect place in the country.'
Some in the audience must have thought they were hearing an arsonist give the keynote address at a convention of firefighters.
This was the annual Loeb First Amendment Dinner in Manchester, New Hampshire - a public cherishing of freedom of speech - in the state with the two-fisted motto 'Live Free or Die.' And the arsonist at the microphone,m the former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, was insisting that we must attach an 'on-off button' to free speech "
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)He kicked the establishment in the balls. He is one of my heroes because of it. Whatever he will do, moving forward, he will be legendary, much in the same way as Ed Murrow is today.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)his ego just seems to get the best of him, sadly.
Dustlawyer
(10,494 posts)FINANCE REFORM and PUBLICLY FUNDED ELECTIONS is to bust up the media conglomerates and the big Wall Street banks! We cannot unwashed all of those corrupted brains without a free, independent press. Only then will Networks hire the next Edward R. Murrow or Walter Cronkite!
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)The Corporatocracy is not concerned with freedom or Democracy. It's concerned with PROFIT. As long as this is the case, our country is doomed to the dustbin of history.
merrily
(45,251 posts)No constitutional amendment that is even a little controversial has been ratified since the Eisenhower Administration. Even something as simple as equal rights for women did not make it past the RW in the 1970s for ratification.
This is a hell of a lot more controversial than the ERA was and the right wing is nuttier than ever. And never mind ratification, this won't make it out of Congress.
So, while I would very much like reform, I don't know how it will happen.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)quinnox
(20,600 posts)even today. Usually authoritarian types, lock steppers.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)Ryan, Paul, Cruz, Palin, Bachmann and of course Limbaugh??
quinnox
(20,600 posts)These kind of mind sets are not just confined to the GOP, unfortunately.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)investigative journalism for the TVEE. Now they are all corporate sponsors that answer to their producers.
merrily
(45,251 posts)The cure for the feeling is usually to get off the message board for a while and do something unrelated to current issues. I don't know the cure for the besieging, though.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)For fawning over Putin just so they could bash Obama.