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The 'Stand Your Ground' law explained in one handy cartoon. (Original Post) WilliamPitt Mar 2012 OP
outstanding/rec Voice for Peace Mar 2012 #1
Except the reality is that the black guy pscot Mar 2012 #2
Yup. n/t progressoid Mar 2012 #5
i'll agree marshall gaines Mar 2012 #15
Could SYG be the birth-place of some awful race war? FredStembottom Mar 2012 #3
When you have to look over your shoulder to keep an eye on the neighborhood watch guy!! Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #4
Funny but makes perfect sense Progressive dog Mar 2012 #6
Pat Oliphant has a good one too pokerfan Mar 2012 #7
Wow. Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #11
That 'bout splains it yeah. lonestarnot Mar 2012 #8
This is what I have been asking myself SoutherDem Mar 2012 #9
side marshall gaines Mar 2012 #18
agree marshall gaines Mar 2012 #20
indeed ibegurpard Mar 2012 #10
Now we have reason to feel threatened by all neighborhood watch guys mainer Mar 2012 #12
That's how I would have preferred it turned out. krispos42 Mar 2012 #13
no marshall gaines Mar 2012 #16
Illegal posession of a handgun, perhaps. krispos42 Mar 2012 #24
Funny how both cartoons alude to the Martin shooting... -..__... Mar 2012 #14
zimmerman marshall gaines Mar 2012 #17
Yeah, "Zimmerman" is such a traditional hispanic or latin name.... Pachamama Mar 2012 #22
You know it would take you like 2 seconds to search and find out his mom is Peruvian. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #26
How do you know what the shooter was "portrayed" as? Number23 Mar 2012 #19
Bill Hicks had a pretty good analogy too:" Initech Mar 2012 #21
If anyone had a reason to claim self defense under the "Stand Your Ground" law ... spin Mar 2012 #23
Strongly agree. The law has been mis-applied. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #27
Pretty good toon. nt Lucky Luciano Mar 2012 #25
The Truth Is... catseye Mar 2012 #28

pscot

(21,024 posts)
2. Except the reality is that the black guy
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 12:21 PM
Mar 2012

would be face down, on the ground, hands cuffed behind his back while three cops beat on him with their maglights. And that's the way it is.

FredStembottom

(2,928 posts)
3. Could SYG be the birth-place of some awful race war?
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 12:22 PM
Mar 2012

...cuz a shooter of the shooter shooter is right around the corner.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
4. When you have to look over your shoulder to keep an eye on the neighborhood watch guy!!
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 12:31 PM
Mar 2012

Because he wants to put notches in his gun belt!!
Great.
Great idea.

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
9. This is what I have been asking myself
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 03:31 PM
Mar 2012

This morning I heard someone defend the shooter saying he was "attacked" because of the wounds he had. Well, if he did, wasn't the young man simply following the "stand your ground law"? I know if I was being followed I certainly would think I was being threatened.

We all know if the young man had killed the shooter he would have been arrested on the spot, no questions asked.

Let's face it, the "stand your ground law", is a law, written by white men, supported by the NRA, to defend white people. I have heard the number of shooting deaths have gone up since it was passed. I would like to know how many white people have used this defense successfully, compared to how many black people?

Also, how many white people are questioned for being in a black neighborhood, compared to the number of blacks for being in white neighborhoods.

 

marshall gaines

(347 posts)
20. agree
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:43 PM
Mar 2012

I agree with your comment and question. Those Sanford authorities never expected this over a white male shooting a black male. I hope justice, you know the blindfolded woman with scale, prevails

mainer

(12,022 posts)
12. Now we have reason to feel threatened by all neighborhood watch guys
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 04:50 PM
Mar 2012

ergo, it's now OK to shoot them.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
13. That's how I would have preferred it turned out.
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 05:02 PM
Mar 2012

If Martin had managed to pull the gun from Zimmerman and shot him after Zimmerman had confronted him and drawn his gun, then Martin would be fully covered by the SYG law.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
24. Illegal posession of a handgun, perhaps.
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:55 PM
Mar 2012

But if he is railroaded into jail, then again, the problem isn't the law, it is the people enforcing the law.

 

-..__...

(7,776 posts)
14. Funny how both cartoons alude to the Martin shooting...
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:08 PM
Mar 2012

but conveniently fail to portray the shooter as a Hispanic man.

Why is that?

 

marshall gaines

(347 posts)
17. zimmerman
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:32 PM
Mar 2012

george zimmerman is hispanic, i thought when the NYT referred to him as that, it was some kind of mistake or typo

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
22. Yeah, "Zimmerman" is such a traditional hispanic or latin name....
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:21 PM
Mar 2012

I guess if his mother or his grandmother was latin or hispanic, even with a good German name, having that little bit of latin/hispanic blood in him, even if an 1/8 that made him have dark hair and brown eyes (because you know, there are no brown haired brown-eyed Germans) then we have to call him hispanic and not white....

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
26. You know it would take you like 2 seconds to search and find out his mom is Peruvian.
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:35 AM
Mar 2012

His father is white, his mother is from Peru. Granted, Peru is a melting pot of pretty much everything, but his mother appears to be latina, and both speak spanish.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2017819414_zimmerman23.html

(Of course, none of this settles any question of whether he might or might not be hostile to any particular race.)

Number23

(24,544 posts)
19. How do you know what the shooter was "portrayed" as?
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:39 PM
Mar 2012

You do realize that Hispanic is a CULTURE, not a color don't you? Black people, Asians, even blue-eyed blondes can be Hispanic (not to mention Muslim and Arabic too!)

spin

(17,493 posts)
23. If anyone had a reason to claim self defense under the "Stand Your Ground" law ...
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:33 PM
Mar 2012

it would have been Trayvon Martin. Martin did not initiate the incident and he might well have had reason to fear for his life when approached by Zimmerman (especially if Zimmerman showed his concealed weapon or drew it to gain leverage in the confrontation.)

Despite what the media says, the "Stand Your Ground" law does not allow you to chase and kill.

I suspect that the Sanford police department is hiding behind the "Stand Your Ground" law in order to avoid arresting and prosecuting Martin. If so, this tactic will backfire because of all the media attention.

catseye

(2 posts)
28. The Truth Is...
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 08:28 AM
Mar 2012

This law (as many others are) was written by the experts, in this case the NRA, and pretty much handed to their paid for representatives to pass......

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