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frwrfpos

(517 posts)
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:20 PM Mar 2014

That propaganda from the US foxnews Koch Puppets is supported here is no suprise

Its the blatant loyalty to fascism and support of US fascist media that is bought and paid for by RW Koch brothers

We now must support fascism in this country. We now must support Capitalism that screws over the 99%

Fuck Fascism

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That propaganda from the US foxnews Koch Puppets is supported here is no suprise (Original Post) frwrfpos Mar 2014 OP
Wuh?? functioning_cog Mar 2014 #1
I'm guessing it's an "If Sarah Palin was a progressive" post? 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #73
WHARRGARBL! Silent3 Mar 2014 #2
LOL. I don't know a thing about you, but thanks for the laugh. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #42
are you talking about the people who dare disbelieve what rt.com says? nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #3
That would not make sense, Faux HATES RT, always have. Faux hates anything that sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #4
that's what he apparently believes, that people who distrust President Putin's geek tragedy Mar 2014 #5
You mean like those who distrust the Media owned by Six Corporations must be Commies? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #8
One has to employ their own judgment. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #12
The Corporate media is junk. I didn't think there was any argument about that. When rt helps lie sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #30
There are fascist governments, movements, parties, economies and people. They act like this: freshwest Mar 2014 #18
I like the cut of your jib functioning_cog Mar 2014 #24
Why, thank you! I'll be here all week! I think... And for our fascists: freshwest Mar 2014 #38
I have days when I feel EXACTLY like that cat Tsiyu Mar 2014 #50
No Kidding! Aerows Mar 2014 #75
My cat does that AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #55
Cats are divinely charged with enforcing Feng Shui. Your desk clearly needs altering. Obey kitty. freshwest Mar 2014 #58
That is one of my favorite gifs. It always makes me laugh out loud. nt tblue37 Mar 2014 #63
So who do you trust? Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #45
Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #7
As far as I know, I replied to a human being, not a thing. What are you referring to? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #9
Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #11
climb down off that cross, pal, we could put the wood to better use. nt dionysus Mar 2014 #13
excuse me, what do you mean by "you did not reply to a human?" geek tragedy Mar 2014 #14
Whoa. That's gonna leave a mark, and very true of that expression: freshwest Mar 2014 #20
quite honestly, I am not sure I feel safe being here with people geek tragedy Mar 2014 #23
Something tells me that one is already on his way out the door. Rex Mar 2014 #27
Well, he won't be replying to you now. And you analyzed that perfectly, gt. Kudos. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #40
You do have the onboard cam disabled on your computer, don't you? freshwest Mar 2014 #48
I understood you. woo me with science Mar 2014 #17
so you have no problem with him referring to me as a non-human and a "thing" geek tragedy Mar 2014 #19
i seems they eventually become that with which they hate, doesn't it? dionysus Mar 2014 #26
Just ask the yellow king nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #28
The language of fascism has been used against me and others here on a regular basis. I'm glad to see sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #53
you just displayed a tremendous lack of class . no surprise. nt dionysus Mar 2014 #29
"the thing you replied to". geek tragedy Mar 2014 #10
don't be offended, he just had an extra large bowl of trollios cereal for breakfast today. dionysus Mar 2014 #15
eh, that kind of talk is kind of scary, people who dehumanize do so to make it easier to kill geek tragedy Mar 2014 #16
no kidding! ;) dionysus Mar 2014 #21
The attitude reminds me of the leader here: freshwest Mar 2014 #41
Trollios. Snort lonestarnot Mar 2014 #25
Beware: freshwest Mar 2014 #33
And pizza last night! 'Previously banned troll.' He sounded familiar, couldn't control his hatred: freshwest Mar 2014 #65
Thanks, that's another keeper. Some people forget that: freshwest Mar 2014 #43
Hey, you should embrace your Thing-iness Scootaloo Mar 2014 #52
maybe the new F4 film will be such an improvement geek tragedy Mar 2014 #59
I think you won't hear from him for awhile functioning_cog Mar 2014 #37
Farewell, sweet prince, we barely knew ye. Or some such mixed quotation... n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #44
he'll re-register as a zombie nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #60
He already had, same style everytime, couldn't help himself: freshwest Mar 2014 #67
what were his previous handles? nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #74
That I don't know, but I pay attention to style. His style was to post an OP and attack DUers. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #76
sadly, a pretty common style nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #77
Fuck the GOP. You show me a bigoted theocratic fascist and I'll show you a Republican. Lint Head Mar 2014 #6
^^^This!^^^ eom BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #22
^^^That!^^^ freshwest Mar 2014 #46
does not compute? treestar Mar 2014 #31
Someone's feeling a little neglected.. Cha Mar 2014 #34
no kidding! treestar Mar 2014 #35
Cracking up at those Cha Mar 2014 #36
I'm having a great time. Meta returns to DU! n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #47
It can't be stopped fresh! But, it's getting sillier and sillier.. Cha Mar 2014 #54
Well he’s looking, he’s looking, he’s looking down Catherina Mar 2014 #32
oh. I thought you meant this guy functioning_cog Mar 2014 #39
The Henry Wallace bit about American fascists...yes, that's it, for sure. Zorra Mar 2014 #49
Tough times coming. Imagine how different the world would be if they hadn't forced him out Catherina Mar 2014 #51
A fascist, by any other name, is still a fascist. Zorra Mar 2014 #70
+1. And... If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next Catherina Mar 2014 #72
All good! DeSwiss Mar 2014 #57
+1 jsr Mar 2014 #61
I have no idea what this thread is about... TreasonousBastard Mar 2014 #56
... SidDithers Mar 2014 #62
You can be more enthusiastic than that! freshwest Mar 2014 #69
hahaha. PPR. previously banned troll. functioning_cog Mar 2014 #64
Yup, his pattern of animosity was familiar. Start a thread, attack DU generally and posters, too... freshwest Mar 2014 #71
no comprendo Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #66
Repeat troll has left the building... Rex Mar 2014 #68

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
4. That would not make sense, Faux HATES RT, always have. Faux hates anything that
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:30 PM
Mar 2014

doesn't emanate from the far right.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
8. You mean like those who distrust the Media owned by Six Corporations must be Commies?
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:41 PM
Mar 2014

So, since no one trusts any media, what sources would YOU recommend as credible?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
12. One has to employ their own judgment.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:47 PM
Mar 2014

Sources like VOA and rt.com are junk, so is Fox. Corporate media is awful in many respects--especially when reporting on corporations and finance.

great thing about the internet is that it provides a wide diversity of sources

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
30. The Corporate media is junk. I didn't think there was any argument about that. When rt helps lie
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:05 AM
Mar 2014

this country into war causing the deaths of untold numbers of human beings, torture, gives voice and respect to people like James O'Keefe without question, no voice to Progressive Dems, they will reach the same level of lack of credibility as the Corporate Media.

Until then, until at the very least the Fairness Doctrine is restored, the Corporate Media belongs where it is on the list of the world's free press.

I notice you did not list any sources we can trust, and yes, thank the gods for the internet where we do not need to bother with media that lies to the people on matters as important as the lives and deaths of our troops and of innocent people who have done nothing to us.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
18. There are fascist governments, movements, parties, economies and people. They act like this:
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:51 PM
Mar 2014

Last edited Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:50 AM - Edit history (1)



They yell at others, name call and pretend they are superior to commoners. It's a sure way to end up being ignored by sane people.

Signed,

Your friendly socialist (yes, I am more socialist than most), Obamabot cheerleading, authoritarian swooning pal,

Freshwest

P.S. Fascists suck, and all who act like them can KMG.


 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
55. My cat does that
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:50 AM
Mar 2014

She sits on my desk then knocks everything off, one by one. After she knocks something off, she looks down on the floor to see where it landed, then knocks the next thing off.

Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #4)

Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #9)

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
14. excuse me, what do you mean by "you did not reply to a human?"
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:49 PM
Mar 2014

Why did you call me a "thing?"

Come on, articulate the reason why you're borrowing from eliminationists, fascists, and genocidalists in your language here.

Or are you afraid of losing a debate to someone you've decided is 'less than human?'

That indicates a profound lack of confidence.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
20. Whoa. That's gonna leave a mark, and very true of that expression:
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:53 PM
Mar 2014
Come on, articulate the reason why you're borrowing from eliminationists, fascists, and genocidalists in your language here.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
17. I understood you.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:51 PM
Mar 2014

Last edited Thu Mar 13, 2014, 02:13 AM - Edit history (2)

I am also angry at the dismantling of our Constitution by those implementing actual fascism, and I am angry that the blatant propaganda machine that has been deployed online to supplement the MSM is probably being paid for by our tax dollars, while Americans are discarded like so much garbage. These propaganda swarms are not communication. They are advertising and purposeful diversion, disinformation, and disruption.



States that build surveillance machines also build propaganda machines:

The government figured out sockpuppet managment but not "persona management."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023358242

Obama taps "cognitive infiltrator" Cass Sunstein for Committee to create "trust" in NSA:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023512796

Salon: Obama confidant’s spine-chilling proposal: Cass Sunstein wants the government to "cognitively infiltrate" anti-government groups
http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/

The US government's online campaigns of disinformation, manipulation, and smear.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024560097

The influx of corporate propaganda-spouting posters is blatant and unnatural.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3189367

U.S. Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News To Americans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023262111

The goal of the propaganda assaults across the internet is not to convince anyone of anything.*
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023359801

The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4159454

Seventeen techniques for truth suppression.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4249741

Just do some Googling on astroturfing - big organizations have some sophisticated tools.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1208351

The influx will continue
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4216987






 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
19. so you have no problem with him referring to me as a non-human and a "thing"
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:53 PM
Mar 2014

I guess that tends to shed some light on your sincerity in opposing fascism, given your willingness to endorse people who use the language of fascism.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
53. The language of fascism has been used against me and others here on a regular basis. I'm glad to see
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:02 AM
Mar 2014

your objection to it. Most of the time those posts remain standing.. Perhaps because we don't bother alerting on them. Maybe that was not a good idea. From now on I think it may be a better idea to alert rather than ignore them.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. "the thing you replied to".
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:44 PM
Mar 2014

You know, nothing says "anti-fascist" like using deliberately dehumanizing words for human beings.

Oh wait, that's something actual fascists do.

You do not oppose fascism--you emulate it and adopt its rhetoric.

Go ahead, call me vermin or a rodent or something else from your limited arsenal of hate speech.





 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
16. eh, that kind of talk is kind of scary, people who dehumanize do so to make it easier to kill
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:51 PM
Mar 2014

the presence of such people is why I think people are crazy to use their real names at places like DU/

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
41. The attitude reminds me of the leader here:
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:28 AM
Mar 2014


Note the language, very much as you described when you examine the true meaning.

Note how they wanted his license plate number, too. That's what baggers do when they see a liberal gathering, take their numbers and stalk them and their families.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
65. And pizza last night! 'Previously banned troll.' He sounded familiar, couldn't control his hatred:
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 02:55 PM
Mar 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=311513?=trans

Guess you recognized his posting pattern, too.

Thanks, EarlG.


freshwest

(53,661 posts)
43. Thanks, that's another keeper. Some people forget that:
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:39 AM
Mar 2014
You know, nothing says "anti-fascist" like using deliberately dehumanizing words for human beings.

Oh wait, that's something actual fascists do.

You do not oppose fascism--you emulate it and adopt its rhetoric.

Go ahead, call me vermin or a rodent or something else from your limited arsenal of hate speech.

As John Cleese said:



Full Transcript:

Seriously though, we've heard a lot about extremism recently, a nastier harsher atmosphere everywhere, more abuse and bother-boy behavior, less friendliness and tolerance and respect for opponents.

Alright, but what we never hear about extremism is its advantages!

Well. The biggest advantage of extremism is that it makes you feel GOOD because it provides you with enemies.

Let me explain. The great thing about having enemies is that you can pretend that all the badness in the whole world is in your enemies, and all the goodness in the whole world is in YOU.

Attractive, isn't it?

So, if you have a lot of anger and resentment in you anyway and you therefore enjoy abusing people, then you can pretend that you're only doing it because these enemies of yours are such very bad persons! And if it wasn't for them, you'd actually be good natured, and courteous, and rational all the time. So, if you want to FEEL GOOD, become an extremist!

Okay, now you have a choice.

If you join the hard left, they'll give you their list of authorized enemies. Almost all kinds of authorities, especially the police, city, Americans, judges, multi-national corporations, public schools, farriers, newspaper owners, fox hunters, generals, class traitors and of course, moderates.

Or if you'd rather be an extremist on the hard right, no problem, fine, you still get the lovely list of enemies, only they're different. Noisy minority groups, unions, Russia, weirdos, demonstrators, welfare sponges, meddlesome clergy, peaceniks, the BBC, strikers, social workers, Communists and of course, moderates. And upstart actors.

Now. Once you're armed with one of these super lists of enemies, you can be as nasty as you like and yet feel feel your behavior is morally justified.

So you can strut around, abusing people, and telling them you could eat them for breakfast and still think of yourself as a champion of the truth. A fighter for the greater good. And not the rather sad paranoid schizoid that you really are.


 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
52. Hey, you should embrace your Thing-iness
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:55 AM
Mar 2014


Get to clobbrin'

I mean there's worse things to be. Like Reed Richards? oh yeah. human rubber, there's a talent.

Cha

(306,903 posts)
54. It can't be stopped fresh! But, it's getting sillier and sillier..
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:48 AM
Mar 2014
"That propaganda from the US foxnews Koch Puppets is supported here is no surprise"

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
32. Well he’s looking, he’s looking, he’s looking down
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:07 AM
Mar 2014



Well he’s looking, he’s looking, he’s looking down,
Hoping you’ll clean up this dirty old town.
Finish his battle, before it turns rotten,
Your granddad didn’t vote for fascists, he shot 'em.

Yeah he shot 'em, he shot 'em, he shot 'em down,
Fired his gun till they hit the ground.
So I hope, you’ve not forgotten:
Your granddad didn’t vote for fascists
He shot 'em
down.


"The obvious types of American fascists are dealt with on the air and in the press. These demagogues and stooges are fronts for others. Dangerous as these people may be, they are not so significant as thousands of other people who have never been mentioned. The really dangerous American fascists are not those who are hooked up directly or indirectly with the Axis. The FBI has its finger on those. The dangerous American fascist is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power.

If we define an American fascist as one who in case of conflict puts money and power ahead of human beings, then there are undoubtedly several million fascists in the United States. There are probably several hundred thousand if we narrow the definition to include only those who in their search for money and power are ruthless and deceitful. Most American fascists are enthusiastically supporting the war effort... They are patriotic in time of war because it is to their interest to be so, but in time of peace they follow power and the dollar wherever they may lead.

-- Henry A. Wallace, FDR's second Vice President and the New Deal visionary before the corporate wing of the Democrat party refused to allow him to be FDR's VP for the next term and brought that corporate rat Harry Truman in. FDR almost turned down the democratic nomination because of that. "



In 1940, he was FDR's running mate and served as his vice president for four years. But in 1944, against the advice of the Democratic Party's progressives and liberals - including his wife Eleanor - FDR reluctantly allowed the party's conservative, pro-business and segregationist wing to replace Wallace with Sen. Harry Truman as the vice presidential candidate, a move that Stone calls the "greatest blunder" of Roosevelt's career. Had Wallace remained as vice president, he would have become president when FDR died in April 1945.

Wallace opposed the cold war, the arms race with the Soviet Union and racial segregation. He was a strong advocate of labor unions, national health insurance, public works jobs and women's equality. He would have been, without question, the most radical president in American history. He would have served out the remaining three years of FDR's fourth term and certainly would have sought to be elected on his own in 1948.

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/14297-henry-wallace-americas-forgotten-visionary

 

functioning_cog

(294 posts)
39. oh. I thought you meant this guy
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:16 AM
Mar 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=311513

He's been trolling hard since January but his subhuman talk got the better of him. I wonder if he speaks Russian fluently.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
49. The Henry Wallace bit about American fascists...yes, that's it, for sure.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:50 AM
Mar 2014
"The obvious types of American fascists are dealt with on the air and in the press. These demagogues and stooges are fronts for others. Dangerous as these people may be, they are not so significant as thousands of other people who have never been mentioned. The really dangerous American fascists are not those who are hooked up directly or indirectly with the Axis. The FBI has its finger on those. The dangerous American fascist is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power.

If we define an American fascist as one who in case of conflict puts money and power ahead of human beings, then there are undoubtedly several million fascists in the United States. There are probably several hundred thousand if we narrow the definition to include only those who in their search for money and power are ruthless and deceitful. Most American fascists are enthusiastically supporting the war effort... They are patriotic in time of war because it is to their interest to be so, but in time of peace they follow power and the dollar wherever they may lead.

-- Henry A. Wallace, FDR's second Vice President and the New Deal visionary before the corporate wing of the Democrat party refused to allow him to be FDR's VP for the next term and brought that corporate rat Harry Truman in. FDR almost turned down the democratic nomination because of that. "


Catherina

(35,568 posts)
51. Tough times coming. Imagine how different the world would be if they hadn't forced him out
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:54 AM
Mar 2014

The corporate Dems were never and will never be on the people's side.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
72. +1. And... If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 03:19 PM
Mar 2014


"If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next" is a single by Welsh alternative rock band Manic Street Preachers. It was released on 24 August 1998.

The song's theme is taken from the Spanish Civil War, and the idealism of Welsh volunteers who joined the left-wing International Brigades fighting for the Spanish Republic against Francisco Franco's military rebels. The song takes its name from a Republican poster of the time, displaying a photograph of a young child killed by the Nationalists under a sky of bombers with the stark warning "If you tolerate this, your children will be next" written at the bottom.



Various works on the Spanish Civil War were the inspiration for this song, and certain lyrics pertain directly to these works. For example, the line "If I can shoot rabbits/then I can shoot fascists" is attributed to a remark made by a man who signed up with the Republican fighters to his brother in an interview years later. This was originally quoted in the book Miners Against Fascism by Hywel Francis. Another work George Orwell's first-hand account, "Homage to Catalonia". "I've walked Las Ramblas/but not with real intent" brings to mind the account in Orwell's book of fighting on the Ramblas, with the various factions seemingly getting nowhere, with the fighting and often a sense of camaraderie overriding the vaunted principles each side was supposed to be fighting for.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_You_Tolerate_This_Your_Children_Will_Be_Next


 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
57. All good!
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 02:26 AM
Mar 2014
- Excellent in fact. Oh, and Harry could be trusted to do what he was told, because he was a Freemason.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
71. Yup, his pattern of animosity was familiar. Start a thread, attack DU generally and posters, too...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 03:04 PM
Mar 2014


One last time for the laughs. I only post that gif for egregiously spiteful trolls.

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