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Hunter bags 500-pound boar you have to see to believe (Original Post) 30cal Mar 2014 OP
feral hogs are a major problem, hope they can feed some hungry people with that thing nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #1
I never knew they were that big in NC 30cal Mar 2014 #2
Are feral hogs safe for human consumption? BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #103
cook them well quaker bill Mar 2014 #118
I remember there were feral hogs up near our family home in NC Pennsylvania LynneSin Mar 2014 #137
... Rex Mar 2014 #3
Good one. Hoyt Mar 2014 #9
Excellent! uppityperson Mar 2014 #86
You know I want to believe Baclava Mar 2014 #88
Well that bunny as you can see, is not an ordinary rabbit...I'll let the expert explain it. Rex Mar 2014 #89
... BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #101
I checked on Snopes 2naSalit Mar 2014 #114
Only one shot, but but but he has a thirty round magazine.. Bandit Mar 2014 #4
It is actually shedevil69taz Mar 2014 #11
I have a 308 caliber bolt action rifle I have had for forty years Bandit Mar 2014 #36
Good for you shedevil69taz Mar 2014 #40
That 30 round clip kinda removes the sporting element from the hunt. LonePirate Mar 2014 #120
The bolt action rifle is a military style rifle FarCenter Mar 2014 #49
Yes it is but you know why the military changed to large capacity magazines? Bandit Mar 2014 #55
Makes gun fanciers feel good about themselves and their ability to clear a room, fight an army, etc. Hoyt Mar 2014 #64
I like the last photo. Scary indeed uppityperson Mar 2014 #87
If only the barrel would bend all the way around back at the operator in that first pic. geomon666 Mar 2014 #130
Repelling an infantry attack is a pretty simple math problem FarCenter Mar 2014 #68
Exactly Bandit Mar 2014 #69
What's the mathematics for being outflanked or attacked from the rear? idendoit Mar 2014 #133
Blasted kids with their rock'n roll muzic, pipoman Mar 2014 #107
Do you have to actually fire your weapon? Paladin Mar 2014 #58
Hasn't happened yet shedevil69taz Mar 2014 #61
If that thing were coming at me, HubertHeaver Mar 2014 #33
How high capacity mag is used in boar hunting... (warning for sensitive) HereSince1628 Mar 2014 #60
Remember hogzilla? tularetom Mar 2014 #5
I also believe that hog turned out the be farm raised for canned hunts Marrah_G Mar 2014 #52
Yeah' 500 lbs is possible but not likely in the wild. flamin lib Mar 2014 #6
It probably weighs about 500 lbs but. dilby Mar 2014 #7
a Beast of the Southern Wild Enrique Mar 2014 #8
That's what I was thinking. Last of the Aurochs. n/t FSogol Mar 2014 #97
I would have been rooting for the hog LordGlenconner Mar 2014 #10
It wasn't trophy hunting B2G Mar 2014 #12
Whatever gets you through the day. LordGlenconner Mar 2014 #14
I think adequate animal protein gets him through the day... Lost_Count Mar 2014 #51
Nice come back. CVN-68 Mar 2014 #56
Why not leave it alone and go to the store like everyone else. upaloopa Mar 2014 #21
Good thing those pigs in the store B2G Mar 2014 #24
How is buying meat from the store more noble? /nt Marr Mar 2014 #25
Because it doesn't involve evil gunz. nt hack89 Mar 2014 #35
Feral hogs are an invasive species and damage the woodlands csziggy Mar 2014 #44
Feral hogs are a major issue Gothmog Mar 2014 #47
Yep, they are dangerous - don't get caught on the ground with them around csziggy Mar 2014 #50
not to mention tasty eShirl Mar 2014 #65
They are just wild domesticated pigs csziggy Mar 2014 #74
I agree because I hate hunting and those who kill for sport. n/t RebelOne Mar 2014 #48
Whut!? Glassunion Mar 2014 #67
Why can't store meat eaters hunt like carbon conscious consumers do? NoOneMan Mar 2014 #73
Don't care AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #128
I recommend a trip to the Southeast. GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #105
So you prefer to hire your killing done for you. Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #111
Because you can go get meat at the store that didn't come from a killed animal? Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #124
This isn't trophy hunting hack89 Mar 2014 #15
Screw your gunner logic. It all leads back to more guns and more killing. upaloopa Mar 2014 #23
Give it a rest hack89 Mar 2014 #27
No gunners are not good for us upaloopa Mar 2014 #29
Irrational fear is not good for you either. nt hack89 Mar 2014 #30
You need to read about the feral hog problem. Are_grits_groceries Mar 2014 #37
Spot on caricature of an anti-gunner aikoaiko Mar 2014 #42
Well then, go back to the grocery store and just make believe... NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #100
Humans are the most invasive species Beaverhausen Mar 2014 #31
Nice non-sequitur. nt hack89 Mar 2014 #34
How's your natural cave with its natural wi-fi working out? Lost_Count Mar 2014 #53
hmmmmm...what is a human's native environment? eom yawnmaster Mar 2014 #54
So all other invasive species get a free pass? NickB79 Mar 2014 #80
So why pose for a picture? n-t Logical Mar 2014 #108
In the digital era what isn't photographed? hack89 Mar 2014 #123
Not Trophy CBGLuthier Mar 2014 #17
He said it was to 840high Mar 2014 #62
Feral hogs are a scourge on nature in the US NickB79 Mar 2014 #78
Feral hogs are not natural in this ecosystem Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #125
That has to be more than 500 lbs. Xyzse Mar 2014 #13
Good for him and his family. That's a whole lot of food right there. nt Zorra Mar 2014 #16
Tha is wild! Amazing pic functioning_cog Mar 2014 #18
Jury results B2G Mar 2014 #19
Juror #6 is a mind reader pintobean Mar 2014 #28
Yeah, DU is chock full of mind readers as well as Nostradumbasses these days. 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #39
huh 30cal Mar 2014 #41
That sucks. Hunters have seen this animal for years upaloopa Mar 2014 #20
Its an invasive species that is destorying the environment. Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #90
So I don't go shooting pigs upaloopa Mar 2014 #91
Tell you what. You can befriend all the wild boars you want to. REP Mar 2014 #93
I lived with them too upaloopa Mar 2014 #96
Sure. REP Mar 2014 #98
Humans are dangerous and evasive upaloopa Mar 2014 #104
I never said you had to go Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #94
Photoshoped Gman Mar 2014 #22
See post #7 csziggy Mar 2014 #46
Yup. Looks fake to me. gulliver Mar 2014 #119
Man overboared! Orrex Mar 2014 #26
Believe me..... it's NOT photoshopped! rdharma Mar 2014 #32
Pretty obvious forced perspective shot. DirkGently Mar 2014 #38
A creature of such unique magnificence is totally better dead than alive. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #43
Yes, it is. This isn't some endangered species. MicaelS Mar 2014 #66
"unique magnificence" that's displacing native wildlife, eating native flora X_Digger Mar 2014 #71
Got a lot of 500lb asian carp, do ya? WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #82
In a day's worth of fishing, yes. X_Digger Mar 2014 #84
One mans "Unique magnificence" is another ecosystems nightmare VScott Mar 2014 #140
Vegetarian here- we live in NC- JanMichael Mar 2014 #72
Yeah, I Thought the Exact Same Thing fascisthunter Mar 2014 #76
No worries. They will eventually make it to your neck of the woods. Glassunion Mar 2014 #85
What they do the native wildlife and their habitat is not magnificent. GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #115
I was wondering if this was Melissa Bachman. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #45
That's nothing Catherine Vincent Mar 2014 #57
Beautiful MO_Moderate Mar 2014 #59
Wow, that's a lot of pork steaks! B Calm Mar 2014 #63
poor animal Liberal_in_LA Mar 2014 #70
I feel worse for the native fauna who were affected by this thing. GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #117
bless the beasts and the children MFM008 Mar 2014 #75
I'd be more impressed if The Mighty Hunter wasn't armed with an assault rifle. catbyte Mar 2014 #77
It didn't make any difference, really: he fired one shot. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2014 #92
Then why take a damn picture with it if he was just helping the environment? n-t Logical Mar 2014 #116
Or join a hunting club with $6000 dues. Gotta wonder about these guys. Hoyt Mar 2014 #141
I certainly wouldn't be inclined to do that. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2014 #142
Death RAWKS!!!!!!!!1111 tridim Mar 2014 #79
You're a vegan, I take it. Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #112
Yes, because when people kill cows or chickens they pose for a fucking picture. LOL. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #113
I come from a family and a culture of hunters & fishermen. Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #134
Amazingly Large... fascisthunter Mar 2014 #81
ewww, that's a lot of 'boar taint' for a canned 'hunt' Sunlei Mar 2014 #83
Well, bully for him! Aint he special? Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #95
bigger one shot in 2004 Maeve Mar 2014 #99
What a man Strelnikov_ Mar 2014 #102
I know. Now if he did it with a knife alone that is something to brag about. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #110
. . . Strelnikov_ Mar 2014 #126
I have never understood being proud of shooting an animal with a high powered rifle....... Logical Mar 2014 #106
Is it legal for him to hunt with a high-cap magazine? mwrguy Mar 2014 #109
I believe the law usually limits the number of rounds you can have in the magazine badtoworse Mar 2014 #122
Yes Skeeter Barnes Mar 2014 #136
You can hunt with a hi cap mag as long as it's only loaded with what the CVN-68 Mar 2014 #144
next of syfy--hognado dembotoz Mar 2014 #121
crap Jaydog Mar 2014 #127
My BIL killed one a several years back with his G23 service pistol. ileus Mar 2014 #129
He just wanted to live. I guess that's not allowable? Peregrine Took Mar 2014 #131
Hogs are an invasive species destorying the environment. Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #132
You have any idea the damage feral hogs do to the ecosystem? CVN-68 Mar 2014 #145
One invasive species uses gun to eliminate another. Poses with assault rifle. flvegan Mar 2014 #135
so your solution is to allow hogs to destory farm land and native species? Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #138
Hogs...humans...what's the diff? flvegan Mar 2014 #139
And OMG ROTFLMFAO underseasurveyor Mar 2014 #143
I thought the .308 in the AR platform was an AR-10. Jenoch Mar 2014 #146
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
1. feral hogs are a major problem, hope they can feed some hungry people with that thing nt
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:15 PM
Mar 2014

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
103. Are feral hogs safe for human consumption?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:16 PM
Mar 2014

I'm always afraid that they're not because of their diet and the disease out there. Goes to show you how much I know, eh?

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
137. I remember there were feral hogs up near our family home in NC Pennsylvania
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:51 PM
Mar 2014

They caused alot of damage in the area for farmers not just from the crops they destroyed but damage done to property.

I do hope the hunter finds a way to use the boar to provide food for people. Even if he doesn't want it perhaps a local shelter would be happy to have the meat to be used to feed the hungry folks there.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
89. Well that bunny as you can see, is not an ordinary rabbit...I'll let the expert explain it.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:01 PM
Mar 2014

2naSalit

(102,166 posts)
114. I checked on Snopes
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:41 PM
Mar 2014

and they didn't have this particular hog story up yet but they might by tomorrow. There was another that claimed an 1100lbs hog was shot last year..? Just have to check some of these. But then, domestic hogs can get that heavy so...?

shedevil69taz

(512 posts)
11. It is actually
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:42 PM
Mar 2014

.308 Caliber rifles are an excellent choice for hunting a wide variety of wild game. This one and many exactly like it are used (including by me) to hunt and kill game on a regular basis.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
36. I have a 308 caliber bolt action rifle I have had for forty years
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:04 PM
Mar 2014

I hunt in heavy bear country and have NEVER felt the need for a thirty round clip. My rifle holds four rounds, or five with one in the chamber. I have hunted for over sixty years and do not see the need for military style weaponry.

shedevil69taz

(512 posts)
40. Good for you
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:16 PM
Mar 2014

Just because YOU don't FEEL you need need that doesn't mean someone else feels that they do. If the only magazines I have for my rifle are designed to hold 30 rounds, guess what I'm not going to buy ones specially to make anyone FEEL better (myself I do own 5 and 10 rounders, and the 10's are usually the only ones I use, and when hunting in NY I only put 6 rounds in each).

LonePirate

(14,361 posts)
120. That 30 round clip kinda removes the sporting element from the hunt.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:59 PM
Mar 2014

It's not as if humans were disadvantaged by smaller and less modern clips.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
55. Yes it is but you know why the military changed to large capacity magazines?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:52 PM
Mar 2014

What do large capacity magazines have over small capacity magazines? I suspect it is because large capacity magazines are much more lethal. If in civilian life we are worried about gun deaths and mayham then wouldn't it stand to reason that limiting the capacity of magazines would have an effect? Seems elementary to me. The military sure figured it out anyway...

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
64. Makes gun fanciers feel good about themselves and their ability to clear a room, fight an army, etc.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 02:23 PM
Mar 2014

geomon666

(7,519 posts)
130. If only the barrel would bend all the way around back at the operator in that first pic.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:03 PM
Mar 2014

You know, like the Bugs Bunny cartoons.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
68. Repelling an infantry attack is a pretty simple math problem
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 03:10 PM
Mar 2014

How many soldiers per km do you have in the line of defense?
How many rounds / soldier are they carrying?
How fast can they fire?
How many rounds have to be fired to stop an advancing enemy soldier?

How many soldiers per km does the enemy have in the line of attack?
How far away are they?
How fast can they advance over the terrain?

If you run out of ammunition before the enemy runs out of soldiers, you lose.

If you can't kill them fast enough to keep them from reaching your line, you lose.

A moderate rate of fire, long range, and high accuracy are actually a good combination for defense. Low rates of aimed fire are good, especially to prevent running out of ammunition. Bolt action rifles were in general use in WW I. However, they weren't good for clearing enemy trenches.

A high rate of fire is needed by the attacking force once they reach the enemy line. A fully automatic weapon with a light cartridge, such as the 5.56 mm NATO is better here. The AK-47 is similar. In WW II there were specific designs for trench clearing.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
69. Exactly
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 03:12 PM
Mar 2014

And none of those qualify as an excuse for civilians to have large capacity magazines.

 

idendoit

(505 posts)
133. What's the mathematics for being outflanked or attacked from the rear?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:21 PM
Mar 2014

How about the calculus for being bracketed by mortar fire? What percentage of fire power do you commit defending against a simultaneous airborne assault? "No battle plan survives contact with the enemy." Helmuth von Moltke.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
107. Blasted kids with their rock'n roll muzic,
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:21 PM
Mar 2014

Whudda need them big tires fir? Get off my lawn! Freedom isn't free! Ta'hell with statistics, I heard it on the CNN..

Oh, forgot, 'the 2nd amendment is about hunting, everybody knows dat.'

 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
58. Do you have to actually fire your weapon?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:57 PM
Mar 2014

Or do the game animals take one look at its badass tactical features and just keel over dead from sheer terror?





(Sarcasm alert added for the usual clueless types.)

shedevil69taz

(512 posts)
61. Hasn't happened yet
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 02:13 PM
Mar 2014

But I keep hoping my scary scary pistol grip and muzzle break will one day work their magic! LMAO

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
5. Remember hogzilla?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:26 PM
Mar 2014

It was supposed to weigh 1000 lbs and everybody thought it was a hoax. As it turned out it was the real thing but IIRC they finally determined its actual weight was more like 750 lbs.

This guy looks bigger to me.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
6. Yeah' 500 lbs is possible but not likely in the wild.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:28 PM
Mar 2014

200-300 all the time, I've got game camera pics and have shot 200 pounders (was trying for a small one as the big ones taste gamey). A sow can throw two litters a year @ 10 piglets each.

I think the record is over a grand . . .

dilby

(2,273 posts)
7. It probably weighs about 500 lbs but.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:30 PM
Mar 2014

Every hunter knows the camera trick to actually kneel 10 feet behind the animal to make the animal look bigger than it truly is. It's the same for fish, when you get your photo taken always hold the fish with both hands in front of you as far away from your body as possible and it will look like you caught moby dick.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
12. It wasn't trophy hunting
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:42 PM
Mar 2014

Which you would have known if you'd read the article:

"We’re not going to waste anything,” Webb said. “That pig will provide food for me and my family for a good year."

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
21. Why not leave it alone and go to the store like everyone else.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:54 PM
Mar 2014

It sucks no matter what you call it. You don't need to kill you just like to!

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
44. Feral hogs are an invasive species and damage the woodlands
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:20 PM
Mar 2014

In addition, they are aggressive and dangerous.

A farmer's new scourge: swarming, wild swine
Wild pigs, reproducing quickly, eat crops, threaten domestic herds

By Jay Price

jprice@newsobserver.comMay 6, 2012

Much of the nation is now losing a brutal, few-holds-barred war with an exploding population of millions of feral hogs, and North Carolina is on the front line, with acres of field crops and delicate wildlife habitat being destroyed daily and the $1.5 billion pork industry at risk. Scientists say all the new laws popping up around the country aren’t likely to stop the expansion of the pig population that’s chomping and rooting up pretty much everything in its path.

<SNIP>

More education, she said, also needs to be done for the general population, which is mainly unaware of the feral hog onslaught. And hunters in particular should be made fully aware of the huge dangers posed by releasing feral swine and the damage they do to crops and wildlife habitat.

Wild pigs can carry some 30 diseases, many of them also harmful to humans. Researchers from N.C. State University have found several diseases in wild pigs here, including the discovery, announced two weeks ago, that many are harboring bacteria that cause brucellosis, a disease that can sicken people and cause spontaneous miscarriages in pigs.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/05/06/2047423/a-farmers.html#storylink=cpy


European hogs were introduced in the Western Hemisphere as early as Columbus' first voyage. De Soto brought hogs to Florida in his expedition, and enough escaped to establish feral populations there. They uproot native plants, displace native animals, and endanger domestic populations of pigs.

Hog hunting is not done just for fun or even for food. It is done to control a species that should not be wild on this continent.

Gothmog

(178,838 posts)
47. Feral hogs are a major issue
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:33 PM
Mar 2014

There is a state park near me that you have to be careful when hiking due to the feral hogs

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
50. Yep, they are dangerous - don't get caught on the ground with them around
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:40 PM
Mar 2014

Heck, watch videos of pigs attacking hunters and their dogs - it's a pretty fair fight.

eShirl

(20,212 posts)
65. not to mention tasty
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 02:28 PM
Mar 2014

I'm assuming (since it's a member of the bacon family and all)

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
74. They are just wild domesticated pigs
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 04:13 PM
Mar 2014

So, yeah, tasty though how they taste can be affected by what they've eaten. I've heard that many of the hog hunters like to get them during the fall when they've been eating acorns.

 

NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
73. Why can't store meat eaters hunt like carbon conscious consumers do?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 03:25 PM
Mar 2014

(or become vegetarians)

Do you understand just how harmful it is to level forests and monocrop grain with ferts and send it to a factor farm for meat production?

Gug.....Insane.

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
128. Don't care
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:28 PM
Mar 2014

I like animal flesh. I tried to go Vegetarian once, honestly tried with no pre-judgement, but after being very weak and having other health problems that started 10 days after I stopped eating meat and continuing for the two months I tried to go meatless, I went back to my normal diet of high protein, high fat, low to moderate carbs. Ironically I am now in better shape then when I was a young soldier doing PT every day.

GoCubsGo

(34,873 posts)
105. I recommend a trip to the Southeast.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:20 PM
Mar 2014

Come down and take a hike in the woods and swampland, and see the immense damage done by feral hogs to native wildlife habitat. This guy did the local wildlife a huge favor.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
124. Because you can go get meat at the store that didn't come from a killed animal?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:11 PM
Mar 2014

Where are these no-kill meat emporiums?

hack89

(39,181 posts)
15. This isn't trophy hunting
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:44 PM
Mar 2014

hogs are an invasive species that have a devastating impact on the environment. They are considered a nuisance species and can be hunted year round with no limits. And their population is still exploding.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,139 posts)
37. You need to read about the feral hog problem.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:06 PM
Mar 2014

They aren't good for the environment or anything.
I wouldn't hesitate shooting them.

NutmegYankee

(16,477 posts)
100. Well then, go back to the grocery store and just make believe...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:11 PM
Mar 2014

that this isn't what you whole heartily endorse:




NickB79

(20,307 posts)
80. So all other invasive species get a free pass?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 04:26 PM
Mar 2014

Humans introduced the pigs to the region, so the LEAST we can do is remove them as well.

And unless you have a suggestion as to where we can humanely store a few million angry, hungry feral hogs after being life-captured.....

hack89

(39,181 posts)
123. In the digital era what isn't photographed?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:06 PM
Mar 2014

Not only is every mundane thing and event photographed but they are shared with the entire world.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
17. Not Trophy
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:46 PM
Mar 2014

"We’re not going to waste anything,” Webb said. “That pig will provide food for me and my family for a good year."


Guess you picked the wrong side based upon your assumption.

NickB79

(20,307 posts)
78. Feral hogs are a scourge on nature in the US
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 04:22 PM
Mar 2014

Rooting for the hog is tantamount to rooting for habitat destruction for the native flora and fauna of the region.

From an environmental point of view, it doesn't matter if the pig is eaten or left to rot, so long as they're all killed off. They're an invasive, destructive species that needs to be exterminated.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
125. Feral hogs are not natural in this ecosystem
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:14 PM
Mar 2014

They are extremely harmful to it. They can also be very dangerous, and aside from damaging the ecosystem, they can do extensive damage to farms.

This is not trophy hunting - everywhere these hogs were introduced they are hunted to keep the populations down.

 

functioning_cog

(294 posts)
18. Tha is wild! Amazing pic
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:47 PM
Mar 2014

Tou seem tuned in to the hunting scene. What is the best rifle for going after bears?

P.S. I'm guessing your username references your favorite caliber?

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
19. Jury results
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:49 PM
Mar 2014

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is not what DU is about.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:37 AM, and the Jury voted 1-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is 2 minutes of my life I won't be getting back.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "We’re not going to waste anything,” Webb said. “That pig will provide food for me and my family for a good year." We don't know anything about this man's circumstances, but the fact that he will be consuming it for a year tells me that he doesn't hunt just for the fun innit.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Perhaps the thread would be a better fit in the Outdoor Life Group, but discussions of hunting, feral/invasive species, firearms, and related issues are appropriate for and acceptable on DU. Many of us have an interest in these topics.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Considering the username of the OP, I would have to agree. Maybe the novelty of a 500 lb boar, perhaps, but this person posted it because gun.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
20. That sucks. Hunters have seen this animal for years
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:51 PM
Mar 2014

and all they can think is who will get to kill it!
Another reason I have no admiration for gunners.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
90. Its an invasive species that is destorying the environment.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:48 PM
Mar 2014

If it could be arranged, I would like to see every last one in North America eliminated.

They compete for resources with deer populations, and don't really have any natural predators.

Just about every state allows hunting swine with no daily limit, and very little restrictions, unless they are for safety. If it were possible, I would like to see every last wild swine eliminated from the wild in North America, which would help the native animals compete for resources and better balance the ecosystem.

So you should thank hunters. Without them the swine problem would be a lot worse.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
91. So I don't go shooting pigs
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:51 PM
Mar 2014

Most people don't
You always have a ready reason to kill
I don't admire that

REP

(21,691 posts)
93. Tell you what. You can befriend all the wild boars you want to.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:00 PM
Mar 2014

I live in an area where they are a problem and a danger. I see one on my property, I'll send it your way. If it doesn't cooperate, well, it may end badly for the boar.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
96. I lived with them too
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:03 PM
Mar 2014

Caliente creek in the lower Sierra Nevada
Bear mountain was full of them. We still didn't kill them
I don't buy all that gunner shit

REP

(21,691 posts)
98. Sure.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:08 PM
Mar 2014

Maybe you didn't. Not everyone peacefully coexists with them, though. They are dangerous and invasive.

Hunting one's own meat is far more honest than having someone else do your killing for you. That meat at the store was most likely raised in horrid circumstances and lived a life of suffering. Unless you seek out pastured meat, you are contributing to unspeakable animal cruelty by buying meat from a grocery. If you don't own that, you have nothing to say about those who hunt for meat.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
104. Humans are dangerous and evasive
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:19 PM
Mar 2014

We lived in open range country
Most of the bears and mountain lions were extinct
Only bobcats and other small animals left
When we saw a sow with piglets we took a picture

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
94. I never said you had to go
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:00 PM
Mar 2014

I just said that some way we need to keep the population in check, and letting hunters pay for a permit seems like a good solution to me?

Just wondering, do you eat meat?

Gman

(24,780 posts)
22. Photoshoped
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:54 PM
Mar 2014

And not a very good one Using the guy and trees as perspective, that thing would be 3000 lbs.

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
46. See post #7
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:24 PM
Mar 2014

"Every hunter knows the camera trick to actually kneel 10 feet behind the animal to make the animal look bigger than it truly is."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4657044

Camera tricks but not photoshopped.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
38. Pretty obvious forced perspective shot.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:08 PM
Mar 2014

The hunter is squatting several feet or more behind the boar. There is no way the animal is 2-3 times as long as the rifle he is holding as it appears. It could be 500 lbs, but the shot makes it looks big as a horse or a grizzly bear, which is not the case.

Hunters and fisherman have been pulling this prank for decades. Used to be you'd hang the fish from a branch with fishing line and stand behind it pretending to hold it up.

The "giant feral hog" thing is just the new version.

Here's a famous one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_Pig

Images[edit]
Several days after the story broke, suspicion mounted over the authenticity of the photographic evidence. Retired New York University physicist, Dr. Richard Brandt, used perspective geometry to demonstrate that either the pig was 15 feet long (far bigger than claimed) or the boy in the photo was standing several meters behind the pig, using forced perspective to create the optical illusion that the animal was larger than its actual size.[8] Others claim the photographs were digitally altered.[9]
It has been shown that most of the pictures that were distributed to the media were altered through the use of digital enhancement[10] and perspective[11] to make the pig look much larger than it really was. There were also claims that there were other photographs from the Stone family owned Monsterpig.com website (since removed) that showed a more normal size/scale for the pig.[12] Others claim the photographs were digitally altered.[13]

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
66. Yes, it is. This isn't some endangered species.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 02:36 PM
Mar 2014

As others have pointed out, feral hogs are a serious problem in the US. A Plague of Pigs in Texas.

Wild hogs are among the most destructive invasive species in the United States today. Two million to six million of the animals are wreaking havoc in at least 39 states and four Canadian provinces; half are in Texas, where they do some $400 million in damages annually. They tear up recreational areas, occasionally even terrorizing tourists in state and national parks, and squeeze out other wildlife.

Texas allows hunters to kill wild hogs year-round without limits or capture them alive to take to slaughterhouses to be processed and sold to restaurants as exotic meat. Thousands more are shot from helicopters. The goal is not eradication, which few believe possible, but control.

“Most of the hogs that are killed here are killed by hunters, people who will eat them,” Stewart says. He’ll fly over the ranch to try to count the hogs, but unlike some landowners who are overrun, he has yet to shoot them from the air. “We’re not that mad at ‘em yet,” Oakes chuckles. “I hate to kill something and not use it.”


We have plenty of feral hogs in this country, and as far as I am concerned we should kill as many of them as we can and feed them to the poor.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
71. "unique magnificence" that's displacing native wildlife, eating native flora
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 03:14 PM
Mar 2014

How do you feel about lionfish in the Keys? Or asian carp in MD/VA? Zebra mussels?

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
84. In a day's worth of fishing, yes.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 04:51 PM
Mar 2014

Or is it only mammals that attain 'unique magnificence'?



Fuck the native species who live there, eh?
 

VScott

(774 posts)
140. One mans "Unique magnificence" is another ecosystems nightmare
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:06 PM
Mar 2014

Should have let the li'l bugger alone.

It wasn't harming or bothering anyone or anything...

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JanMichael

(25,725 posts)
72. Vegetarian here- we live in NC-
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 03:19 PM
Mar 2014

Read up on the feral hog problem down here- this is not a native animal, and they are causing problems for our native wildlife, farmers, state parks- and they can be mean as hell. Their only natural predators are hunters.

This guy is going to eat what he killed- this wasn't a trophy hunt of an endangered species.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
85. No worries. They will eventually make it to your neck of the woods.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 04:55 PM
Mar 2014

Southern NH has a growing population. Mass. is still considered a feral pig free state, but with the growing just on your northern border, it should no be long. A year or two most likely. They breed quite quickly.

GoCubsGo

(34,873 posts)
115. What they do the native wildlife and their habitat is not magnificent.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:42 PM
Mar 2014

I have seen thousands of acres of woods and swampland torn up by these fuckers. They destroy valuable croplands, as well. The photo below was taken in California, which has a huge feral hog problem. It's just the tip of the ice berg. Things are even worse down here in the Southeast.

Not only do they destroy habitat, they also complete with native wildlife for food, as well as eating some of them--snakes, and small mammals, such as mice. Quite frankly, I hope that hunter takes out lots more of them.

 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
45. I was wondering if this was Melissa Bachman.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:21 PM
Mar 2014

Nope. Just as bad, though. That poor boar was probably old and some asshole hunter had to kill it.

GoCubsGo

(34,873 posts)
117. I feel worse for the native fauna who were affected by this thing.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:44 PM
Mar 2014

Google "feral hogs damage", and you'll see what I mean.

catbyte

(39,050 posts)
77. I'd be more impressed if The Mighty Hunter wasn't armed with an assault rifle.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 04:21 PM
Mar 2014

Yeah, big whoop.



 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
92. It didn't make any difference, really: he fired one shot.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:58 PM
Mar 2014

As it turned out, he could have used a single-shot rifle, since he only needed one shot. Still, against dangerous game, a back up is a good idea, which is why most hunting rifles hold five rounds or so. That AR looks like it's got a 20-rounder, which is actually not allowed for hunting in some states (they make 5 and 10 round magazines for those rifles for hunting in those states). Seems a bit silly to me, as it's just making the rifle a lot heavier.

That rifle fires the same round as a lot of ordinary hunting rifles (.308).

I don't hunt, myself...no interest in it. But I do understand why feral hogs have to be hunted. They're invasive species where they've been established here in North America, and they do a lot of harm to localized ecosystems. Hunting is the most "surgical" way to get rid of them, since poison to traps are much too indiscriminate.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
142. I certainly wouldn't be inclined to do that.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:35 PM
Mar 2014

Wouldn't be anything I took joy in...necessary as removing those hogs may be.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
113. Yes, because when people kill cows or chickens they pose for a fucking picture. LOL. n-t
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:39 PM
Mar 2014

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
134. I come from a family and a culture of hunters & fishermen.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:29 PM
Mar 2014

Not one of them was a trophy hunter, not one of them had mounted game or fish, among the family photos there were none of dead game animals or fish. Hunting & fishing were economic activities, a way of feeding your family. I haven't hunted in several years now, but I never killed an animal without a sense of both regret and gratitude. That was a value I learned from those who taught me to hunt. They were, by the way, people who lived most of their lives in the outdoors and were very conservation-minded.

If you are actually a vegan, I have no quarrel with you; you are living according to admirable principles. However, if you're just poking fun at the rubes, then you really don't know much about the people you're deriding.

There are of course the Cheneys and Nugents of the world, who have made a macho game and sick sport of the whole thing, but those people are fucked in the head in a lot of ways besides their attitudes toward hunting.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
81. Amazingly Large...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 04:27 PM
Mar 2014

...but one side of me also thinks it's strange. I think that's because I'm not a hunter, and too far removed from the culture surrounding the age old practice. I seriously think my reaction to this post is an interesting one... one side would rather see it alive, that the posing with the animal a bit macabre, but then again I am also aware that feral hogs are a problem in the wild(from what I have read), and that hunting has been around since the beginning of time and by extension the 'honor' of the kill/catch.(I used to fish quite a lot)

Strelnikov_

(8,149 posts)
126. . . .
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:22 PM
Mar 2014

Your post 106

I've never gotten it either.

Kinda like . . . hey we kicked their ass . . . after dropping bombs on a defenseless country.


 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
106. I have never understood being proud of shooting an animal with a high powered rifle.......
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:21 PM
Mar 2014

And the posing with it like you fought it hand to hand.

Weird.

mwrguy

(3,245 posts)
109. Is it legal for him to hunt with a high-cap magazine?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:22 PM
Mar 2014

Game & Fish might need a phone call.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
122. I believe the law usually limits the number of rounds you can have in the magazine
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:04 PM
Mar 2014

If I remember right, in NY, where used to to hunt, the limit is 5 rounds for a shotgun or a center-fire rifle. It's been a few years since I hunted with anything other than a side by side shotgun.

 

CVN-68

(97 posts)
144. You can hunt with a hi cap mag as long as it's only loaded with what the
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 12:28 AM
Mar 2014

law says is legal.
I think there's an exemption with feral hogs, feral hogs can be hunted year round with no limit.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
129. My BIL killed one a several years back with his G23 service pistol.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:54 PM
Mar 2014

It was at the bottom of his porch steps grunting at his dog at the top of the steps. Took 3 rounds to put it down...not bad for a S&W40. Turned out to be a 180lb wild boar.

Peregrine Took

(7,583 posts)
131. He just wanted to live. I guess that's not allowable?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:14 PM
Mar 2014

Hope the shooter comes back as a "beast" and can find out up close and personal what it's like to be hunted.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
132. Hogs are an invasive species destorying the environment.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:21 PM
Mar 2014

They compete with resources with native species, and cause billions of dollars in damage annually.

 

CVN-68

(97 posts)
145. You have any idea the damage feral hogs do to the ecosystem?
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 12:34 AM
Mar 2014

They're an invasive species that destroy the environment, compete for food with native species, and are generally dangerous animals.
They are so destructive that they can be hunted year round and there's no limit on how many one can kill.

They're also pretty damn tasty.

flvegan

(66,198 posts)
135. One invasive species uses gun to eliminate another. Poses with assault rifle.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:35 PM
Mar 2014

Did I get everything right in this post?

What's funny is that the wuss with the gun would be little more than scat had the two met on even ground. Be proud, little "man" be proud.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
138. so your solution is to allow hogs to destory farm land and native species?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:01 PM
Mar 2014

Also, I'm wondering for all the people against hunting, do you eat meat? If so, you do know that somebody has to kill the animal, right?

flvegan

(66,198 posts)
139. Hogs...humans...what's the diff?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:05 PM
Mar 2014

Set your humor-meter (if you have one) to mockery. It's what I'm doing here to most folks applauding this.

And if you missed it, the name is flvegan. flVEGAN.

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