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http://news.yahoo.com/giant-hog-boar-hunter-caught-500-pounds-133815315.html
The beast had been seen on trail camera footage years ago, but hunters had failed to capture it until Webb, who says he fired a single shot from a .308-caliber AR-15 rifle from about 50 yards, took it down
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)30cal
(99 posts)That would scare me seeing that in the woods.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)I'm always afraid that they're not because of their diet and the disease out there. Goes to show you how much I know, eh?
quaker bill
(8,264 posts)and with enough BBQ sauce they are fine.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)They caused alot of damage in the area for farmers not just from the crops they destroyed but damage done to property.
I do hope the hunter finds a way to use the boar to provide food for people. Even if he doesn't want it perhaps a local shelter would be happy to have the meat to be used to feed the hungry folks there.

uppityperson
(116,012 posts)Baclava
(12,047 posts)
Rex
(65,616 posts)
LUVS me some Giorgio! His hair is just . . . mesmerizing.
2naSalit
(102,166 posts)and they didn't have this particular hog story up yet but they might by tomorrow. There was another that claimed an 1100lbs hog was shot last year..? Just have to check some of these. But then, domestic hogs can get that heavy so...?
Bandit
(21,475 posts)shedevil69taz
(512 posts).308 Caliber rifles are an excellent choice for hunting a wide variety of wild game. This one and many exactly like it are used (including by me) to hunt and kill game on a regular basis.
Bandit
(21,475 posts)I hunt in heavy bear country and have NEVER felt the need for a thirty round clip. My rifle holds four rounds, or five with one in the chamber. I have hunted for over sixty years and do not see the need for military style weaponry.
shedevil69taz
(512 posts)Just because YOU don't FEEL you need need that doesn't mean someone else feels that they do. If the only magazines I have for my rifle are designed to hold 30 rounds, guess what I'm not going to buy ones specially to make anyone FEEL better (myself I do own 5 and 10 rounders, and the 10's are usually the only ones I use, and when hunting in NY I only put 6 rounds in each).
LonePirate
(14,361 posts)It's not as if humans were disadvantaged by smaller and less modern clips.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Bandit
(21,475 posts)What do large capacity magazines have over small capacity magazines? I suspect it is because large capacity magazines are much more lethal. If in civilian life we are worried about gun deaths and mayham then wouldn't it stand to reason that limiting the capacity of magazines would have an effect? Seems elementary to me. The military sure figured it out anyway...
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)In other words, they are irrational.
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White guys lined up to purchase hi-cap mags in NY.
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1240892.1358303163!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/article-gunshop3-0115.jpg



uppityperson
(116,012 posts)geomon666
(7,519 posts)You know, like the Bugs Bunny cartoons.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)How many soldiers per km do you have in the line of defense?
How many rounds / soldier are they carrying?
How fast can they fire?
How many rounds have to be fired to stop an advancing enemy soldier?
How many soldiers per km does the enemy have in the line of attack?
How far away are they?
How fast can they advance over the terrain?
If you run out of ammunition before the enemy runs out of soldiers, you lose.
If you can't kill them fast enough to keep them from reaching your line, you lose.
A moderate rate of fire, long range, and high accuracy are actually a good combination for defense. Low rates of aimed fire are good, especially to prevent running out of ammunition. Bolt action rifles were in general use in WW I. However, they weren't good for clearing enemy trenches.
A high rate of fire is needed by the attacking force once they reach the enemy line. A fully automatic weapon with a light cartridge, such as the 5.56 mm NATO is better here. The AK-47 is similar. In WW II there were specific designs for trench clearing.
Bandit
(21,475 posts)And none of those qualify as an excuse for civilians to have large capacity magazines.
idendoit
(505 posts)How about the calculus for being bracketed by mortar fire? What percentage of fire power do you commit defending against a simultaneous airborne assault? "No battle plan survives contact with the enemy." Helmuth von Moltke.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)Whudda need them big tires fir? Get off my lawn! Freedom isn't free! Ta'hell with statistics, I heard it on the CNN..
Oh, forgot, 'the 2nd amendment is about hunting, everybody knows dat.'
Paladin
(32,354 posts)Or do the game animals take one look at its badass tactical features and just keel over dead from sheer terror?
(Sarcasm alert added for the usual clueless types.)
shedevil69taz
(512 posts)But I keep hoping my scary scary pistol grip and muzzle break will one day work their magic! LMAO
HubertHeaver
(2,539 posts)I would want a bazooka.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)
tularetom
(23,664 posts)It was supposed to weigh 1000 lbs and everybody thought it was a hoax. As it turned out it was the real thing but IIRC they finally determined its actual weight was more like 750 lbs.
This guy looks bigger to me.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)flamin lib
(14,559 posts)200-300 all the time, I've got game camera pics and have shot 200 pounders (was trying for a small one as the big ones taste gamey). A sow can throw two litters a year @ 10 piglets each.
I think the record is over a grand . . .
dilby
(2,273 posts)Every hunter knows the camera trick to actually kneel 10 feet behind the animal to make the animal look bigger than it truly is. It's the same for fish, when you get your photo taken always hold the fish with both hands in front of you as far away from your body as possible and it will look like you caught moby dick.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)FSogol
(47,592 posts)LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)As I always do when it comes to trophy hunting.
B2G
(9,766 posts)Which you would have known if you'd read the article:
"Were not going to waste anything, Webb said. That pig will provide food for me and my family for a good year."
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)Lost_Count
(555 posts)
CVN-68
(97 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)It sucks no matter what you call it. You don't need to kill you just like to!
B2G
(9,766 posts)weren't killed for their meat, huh?
Marr
(20,317 posts)hack89
(39,181 posts)csziggy
(34,189 posts)In addition, they are aggressive and dangerous.
Wild pigs, reproducing quickly, eat crops, threaten domestic herds
By Jay Price
jprice@newsobserver.comMay 6, 2012
Much of the nation is now losing a brutal, few-holds-barred war with an exploding population of millions of feral hogs, and North Carolina is on the front line, with acres of field crops and delicate wildlife habitat being destroyed daily and the $1.5 billion pork industry at risk. Scientists say all the new laws popping up around the country arent likely to stop the expansion of the pig population thats chomping and rooting up pretty much everything in its path.
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More education, she said, also needs to be done for the general population, which is mainly unaware of the feral hog onslaught. And hunters in particular should be made fully aware of the huge dangers posed by releasing feral swine and the damage they do to crops and wildlife habitat.
Wild pigs can carry some 30 diseases, many of them also harmful to humans. Researchers from N.C. State University have found several diseases in wild pigs here, including the discovery, announced two weeks ago, that many are harboring bacteria that cause brucellosis, a disease that can sicken people and cause spontaneous miscarriages in pigs.
Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/05/06/2047423/a-farmers.html#storylink=cpy
European hogs were introduced in the Western Hemisphere as early as Columbus' first voyage. De Soto brought hogs to Florida in his expedition, and enough escaped to establish feral populations there. They uproot native plants, displace native animals, and endanger domestic populations of pigs.
Hog hunting is not done just for fun or even for food. It is done to control a species that should not be wild on this continent.
Gothmog
(178,838 posts)There is a state park near me that you have to be careful when hiking due to the feral hogs
csziggy
(34,189 posts)Heck, watch videos of pigs attacking hunters and their dogs - it's a pretty fair fight.
eShirl
(20,212 posts)I'm assuming (since it's a member of the bacon family and all)
csziggy
(34,189 posts)So, yeah, tasty though how they taste can be affected by what they've eaten. I've heard that many of the hog hunters like to get them during the fall when they've been eating acorns.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)That makes zero sense.
NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)(or become vegetarians)
Do you understand just how harmful it is to level forests and monocrop grain with ferts and send it to a factor farm for meat production?
Gug.....Insane.
AnalystInParadise
(1,832 posts)I like animal flesh. I tried to go Vegetarian once, honestly tried with no pre-judgement, but after being very weak and having other health problems that started 10 days after I stopped eating meat and continuing for the two months I tried to go meatless, I went back to my normal diet of high protein, high fat, low to moderate carbs. Ironically I am now in better shape then when I was a young soldier doing PT every day.
GoCubsGo
(34,873 posts)Come down and take a hike in the woods and swampland, and see the immense damage done by feral hogs to native wildlife habitat. This guy did the local wildlife a huge favor.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)Where are these no-kill meat emporiums?
hack89
(39,181 posts)hogs are an invasive species that have a devastating impact on the environment. They are considered a nuisance species and can be hunted year round with no limits. And their population is still exploding.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)hack89
(39,181 posts)it is not good for you.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)hack89
(39,181 posts)Are_grits_groceries
(17,139 posts)They aren't good for the environment or anything.
I wouldn't hesitate shooting them.
aikoaiko
(34,214 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,477 posts)that this isn't what you whole heartily endorse:



Beaverhausen
(24,696 posts)hack89
(39,181 posts)Lost_Count
(555 posts)yawnmaster
(2,812 posts)NickB79
(20,307 posts)Humans introduced the pigs to the region, so the LEAST we can do is remove them as well.
And unless you have a suggestion as to where we can humanely store a few million angry, hungry feral hogs after being life-captured.....
Logical
(22,457 posts)hack89
(39,181 posts)Not only is every mundane thing and event photographed but they are shared with the entire world.
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)"Were not going to waste anything, Webb said. That pig will provide food for me and my family for a good year."
Guess you picked the wrong side based upon your assumption.
840high
(17,196 posts)feed his family.
NickB79
(20,307 posts)Rooting for the hog is tantamount to rooting for habitat destruction for the native flora and fauna of the region.
From an environmental point of view, it doesn't matter if the pig is eaten or left to rot, so long as they're all killed off. They're an invasive, destructive species that needs to be exterminated.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)They are extremely harmful to it. They can also be very dangerous, and aside from damaging the ecosystem, they can do extensive damage to farms.
This is not trophy hunting - everywhere these hogs were introduced they are hunted to keep the populations down.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)That looks insane.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)functioning_cog
(294 posts)Tou seem tuned in to the hunting scene. What is the best rifle for going after bears?
P.S. I'm guessing your username references your favorite caliber?
B2G
(9,766 posts)REASON FOR ALERT
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Explanation: "Weâre not going to waste anything,â Webb said. âThat pig will provide food for me and my family for a good year." We don't know anything about this man's circumstances, but the fact that he will be consuming it for a year tells me that he doesn't hunt just for the fun innit.
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Explanation: Considering the username of the OP, I would have to agree. Maybe the novelty of a 500 lb boar, perhaps, but this person posted it because gun.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)11 Bravo
(24,304 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)and all they can think is who will get to kill it!
Another reason I have no admiration for gunners.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)If it could be arranged, I would like to see every last one in North America eliminated.
They compete for resources with deer populations, and don't really have any natural predators.
Just about every state allows hunting swine with no daily limit, and very little restrictions, unless they are for safety. If it were possible, I would like to see every last wild swine eliminated from the wild in North America, which would help the native animals compete for resources and better balance the ecosystem.
So you should thank hunters. Without them the swine problem would be a lot worse.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Most people don't
You always have a ready reason to kill
I don't admire that
REP
(21,691 posts)I live in an area where they are a problem and a danger. I see one on my property, I'll send it your way. If it doesn't cooperate, well, it may end badly for the boar.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Caliente creek in the lower Sierra Nevada
Bear mountain was full of them. We still didn't kill them
I don't buy all that gunner shit
Maybe you didn't. Not everyone peacefully coexists with them, though. They are dangerous and invasive.
Hunting one's own meat is far more honest than having someone else do your killing for you. That meat at the store was most likely raised in horrid circumstances and lived a life of suffering. Unless you seek out pastured meat, you are contributing to unspeakable animal cruelty by buying meat from a grocery. If you don't own that, you have nothing to say about those who hunt for meat.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)We lived in open range country
Most of the bears and mountain lions were extinct
Only bobcats and other small animals left
When we saw a sow with piglets we took a picture
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)I just said that some way we need to keep the population in check, and letting hunters pay for a permit seems like a good solution to me?
Just wondering, do you eat meat?
Gman
(24,780 posts)And not a very good one Using the guy and trees as perspective, that thing would be 3000 lbs.
csziggy
(34,189 posts)"Every hunter knows the camera trick to actually kneel 10 feet behind the animal to make the animal look bigger than it truly is."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4657044
Camera tricks but not photoshopped.
gulliver
(13,929 posts)And it probably wasn't even weighed. Exactly 500 lbs?
Orrex
(67,001 posts)rdharma
(6,057 posts)
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)The hunter is squatting several feet or more behind the boar. There is no way the animal is 2-3 times as long as the rifle he is holding as it appears. It could be 500 lbs, but the shot makes it looks big as a horse or a grizzly bear, which is not the case.
Hunters and fisherman have been pulling this prank for decades. Used to be you'd hang the fish from a branch with fishing line and stand behind it pretending to hold it up.
The "giant feral hog" thing is just the new version.
Here's a famous one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_Pig
Several days after the story broke, suspicion mounted over the authenticity of the photographic evidence. Retired New York University physicist, Dr. Richard Brandt, used perspective geometry to demonstrate that either the pig was 15 feet long (far bigger than claimed) or the boy in the photo was standing several meters behind the pig, using forced perspective to create the optical illusion that the animal was larger than its actual size.[8] Others claim the photographs were digitally altered.[9]
It has been shown that most of the pictures that were distributed to the media were altered through the use of digital enhancement[10] and perspective[11] to make the pig look much larger than it really was. There were also claims that there were other photographs from the Stone family owned Monsterpig.com website (since removed) that showed a more normal size/scale for the pig.[12] Others claim the photographs were digitally altered.[13]
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)As others have pointed out, feral hogs are a serious problem in the US. A Plague of Pigs in Texas.
Texas allows hunters to kill wild hogs year-round without limits or capture them alive to take to slaughterhouses to be processed and sold to restaurants as exotic meat. Thousands more are shot from helicopters. The goal is not eradication, which few believe possible, but control.
Most of the hogs that are killed here are killed by hunters, people who will eat them, Stewart says. Hell fly over the ranch to try to count the hogs, but unlike some landowners who are overrun, he has yet to shoot them from the air. Were not that mad at em yet, Oakes chuckles. I hate to kill something and not use it.
We have plenty of feral hogs in this country, and as far as I am concerned we should kill as many of them as we can and feed them to the poor.
X_Digger
(18,585 posts)How do you feel about lionfish in the Keys? Or asian carp in MD/VA? Zebra mussels?
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)X_Digger
(18,585 posts)Or is it only mammals that attain 'unique magnificence'?
Fuck the native species who live there, eh?
VScott
(774 posts)Should have let the li'l bugger alone.
It wasn't harming or bothering anyone or anything...
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JanMichael
(25,725 posts)Read up on the feral hog problem down here- this is not a native animal, and they are causing problems for our native wildlife, farmers, state parks- and they can be mean as hell. Their only natural predators are hunters.
This guy is going to eat what he killed- this wasn't a trophy hunt of an endangered species.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)It's a wee bit strange...
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Southern NH has a growing population. Mass. is still considered a feral pig free state, but with the growing just on your northern border, it should no be long. A year or two most likely. They breed quite quickly.
GoCubsGo
(34,873 posts)I have seen thousands of acres of woods and swampland torn up by these fuckers. They destroy valuable croplands, as well. The photo below was taken in California, which has a huge feral hog problem. It's just the tip of the ice berg. Things are even worse down here in the Southeast.
Not only do they destroy habitat, they also complete with native wildlife for food, as well as eating some of them--snakes, and small mammals, such as mice. Quite frankly, I hope that hunter takes out lots more of them.

Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)Nope. Just as bad, though. That poor boar was probably old and some asshole hunter had to kill it.
Catherine Vincent
(34,609 posts)John Locke would have used his knives to kill that boar.
MO_Moderate
(377 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)GoCubsGo
(34,873 posts)Google "feral hogs damage", and you'll see what I mean.
MFM008
(20,042 posts)catbyte
(39,050 posts)Yeah, big whoop.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)As it turned out, he could have used a single-shot rifle, since he only needed one shot. Still, against dangerous game, a back up is a good idea, which is why most hunting rifles hold five rounds or so. That AR looks like it's got a 20-rounder, which is actually not allowed for hunting in some states (they make 5 and 10 round magazines for those rifles for hunting in those states). Seems a bit silly to me, as it's just making the rifle a lot heavier.
That rifle fires the same round as a lot of ordinary hunting rifles (.308).
I don't hunt, myself...no interest in it. But I do understand why feral hogs have to be hunted. They're invasive species where they've been established here in North America, and they do a lot of harm to localized ecosystems. Hunting is the most "surgical" way to get rid of them, since poison to traps are much too indiscriminate.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Wouldn't be anything I took joy in...necessary as removing those hogs may be.
tridim
(45,358 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Not one of them was a trophy hunter, not one of them had mounted game or fish, among the family photos there were none of dead game animals or fish. Hunting & fishing were economic activities, a way of feeding your family. I haven't hunted in several years now, but I never killed an animal without a sense of both regret and gratitude. That was a value I learned from those who taught me to hunt. They were, by the way, people who lived most of their lives in the outdoors and were very conservation-minded.
If you are actually a vegan, I have no quarrel with you; you are living according to admirable principles. However, if you're just poking fun at the rubes, then you really don't know much about the people you're deriding.
There are of course the Cheneys and Nugents of the world, who have made a macho game and sick sport of the whole thing, but those people are fucked in the head in a lot of ways besides their attitudes toward hunting.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)...but one side of me also thinks it's strange. I think that's because I'm not a hunter, and too far removed from the culture surrounding the age old practice. I seriously think my reaction to this post is an interesting one... one side would rather see it alive, that the posing with the animal a bit macabre, but then again I am also aware that feral hogs are a problem in the wild(from what I have read), and that hunting has been around since the beginning of time and by extension the 'honor' of the kill/catch.(I used to fish quite a lot)
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)Maeve
(43,451 posts)Strelnikov_
(8,149 posts)He shot something . . . from a distance.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Strelnikov_
(8,149 posts)Your post 106
I've never gotten it either.
Kinda like . . . hey we kicked their ass . . . after dropping bombs on a defenseless country.
Logical
(22,457 posts)And the posing with it like you fought it hand to hand.
Weird.
mwrguy
(3,245 posts)Game & Fish might need a phone call.
badtoworse
(5,957 posts)If I remember right, in NY, where used to to hunt, the limit is 5 rounds for a shotgun or a center-fire rifle. It's been a few years since I hunted with anything other than a side by side shotgun.
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)CVN-68
(97 posts)law says is legal.
I think there's an exemption with feral hogs, feral hogs can be hunted year round with no limit.
dembotoz
(16,922 posts)Thought this was about Rush
ileus
(15,396 posts)It was at the bottom of his porch steps grunting at his dog at the top of the steps. Took 3 rounds to put it down...not bad for a S&W40. Turned out to be a 180lb wild boar.
Peregrine Took
(7,583 posts)Hope the shooter comes back as a "beast" and can find out up close and personal what it's like to be hunted.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)They compete with resources with native species, and cause billions of dollars in damage annually.
CVN-68
(97 posts)They're an invasive species that destroy the environment, compete for food with native species, and are generally dangerous animals.
They are so destructive that they can be hunted year round and there's no limit on how many one can kill.
They're also pretty damn tasty.
flvegan
(66,198 posts)Did I get everything right in this post?
What's funny is that the wuss with the gun would be little more than scat had the two met on even ground. Be proud, little "man" be proud.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Also, I'm wondering for all the people against hunting, do you eat meat? If so, you do know that somebody has to kill the animal, right?
flvegan
(66,198 posts)Set your humor-meter (if you have one) to mockery. It's what I'm doing here to most folks applauding this.
And if you missed it, the name is flvegan. flVEGAN.
underseasurveyor
(6,428 posts)Do I LOVE you