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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:48 PM Mar 2014

Dear DNC, After The FL Loss Of Alex Sink, And With Frightening Forecasts Of The 2014 Elections...

May I Humbly Suggest You Find A Way To Insert This Into You Ad Campaigns In 2014.

From George Carlin:

Now, to balance the scale, I'd like to talk about some things that bring us together, things that point out our similarities instead of our differences. 'Cause that's all you ever hear about in this country. It's our differences. That's all the media and the politicians are ever talking about--the things that separate us, things that make us different from one another. That's the way the ruling class operates in any society. They try to divide the rest of the people. They keep the lower and the middle classes fighting with each other so that they, the rich, can run off with all the fucking money! Fairly simple thing. Happens to work. You know? Anything different--that's what they're gonna talk about--race, religion, ethnic and national background, jobs, income, education, social status, sexuality, anything they can do to keep us fighting with each other, so that they can keep going to the bank! You know how I define the economic and social classes in this country? The upper class keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes. The middle class pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor are there just to scare the shit out of the middle class. Keep 'em showing up at those 'jobs'.


Link: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_Carlin

Get the rights, find the video, and overlay images of the war on women, LGBT, poor, immigrants, the young, the uninsured, the working person, the unions, minimum wage workers, veterans, EVERYBODY that the Republican Party has shit on, er... foresaken.



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Dear DNC, After The FL Loss Of Alex Sink, And With Frightening Forecasts Of The 2014 Elections... (Original Post) WillyT Mar 2014 OP
Why are the forecasts frightening for 2014? bigwillq Mar 2014 #1
Because what matters at the polls isn't whether the administration thinks the country's headed winter is coming Mar 2014 #3
The Forecasts I've Been Reading Has Us OK in 2016... NOT 2014... It Would Take A Wave Election... WillyT Mar 2014 #5
I get your point bigwillq Mar 2014 #7
among other factors, voter suppression and redistricting G_j Mar 2014 #9
Because . . . OldRedneck Mar 2014 #24
I'll give this one a rec and a kick.. 2banon Mar 2014 #2
What's gonna get people to the polls is making sure we GOTV Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #4
And How Did That Work Out For Alex Sink ??? WillyT Mar 2014 #6
Exactly...turnout sucked Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #8
And Although I Am Dismayed By It... It Seems We Have To Figure Out A Way To Make The Mid-Terms... WillyT Mar 2014 #17
Well it is hard to GOTV when people see no change. zeemike Mar 2014 #26
We are! Get busy! Useless in FL Mar 2014 #10
The OP's suggestion is one way to do that, no? nt ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #11
And It IS Just One Way... I'd Take Every Crazy Assed Thing A Republican Has Said In The Last Few... WillyT Mar 2014 #12
Some Good Ideas Liberal_Dog Mar 2014 #20
I agree with you jimlup Mar 2014 #13
Unfortunately... That Means Obama Is Truly A Lame Duck... WillyT Mar 2014 #16
Our party rickyhall Mar 2014 #14
K&R DeSwiss Mar 2014 #15
Yep. Being the "not as bad" party and moving to the right is piss poor advertising and worse Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #18
Or, one could support working people instead of banks for 6 years, and not have to jtuck004 Mar 2014 #19
The day we use the words "ruling class" in an ad is the day we lose the suburbs Recursion Mar 2014 #21
Yep MO_Moderate Mar 2014 #31
K&R...Thanks for posting. red dog 1 Mar 2014 #22
Wow, so you really believe all the bullshit the republicans are trying to sell you. Shame!! LynneSin Mar 2014 #23
She Was Ahead By 6 Points With A Week To Go... And She Said Shit Like This: WillyT Mar 2014 #27
So? LynneSin Mar 2014 #28
Telling Voters Democrats Have NO CHANCE Of Re-Taking The House In 2014... While At The Same Time... WillyT Mar 2014 #29
The district is not "republican leaning" former9thward Mar 2014 #30
And if Sink had lost during a major election day I would say there was a point to be made LynneSin Mar 2014 #32
I posted this OP as a way to get our base motivated and have something to run on neverforget Mar 2014 #25
 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
1. Why are the forecasts frightening for 2014?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:51 PM
Mar 2014

If the country is headed in the right direction, as this administration tells us, why then does the democratic party seem headed for trouble come November?

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
3. Because what matters at the polls isn't whether the administration thinks the country's headed
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:54 PM
Mar 2014

in the right direction, but whether the voters do.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
5. The Forecasts I've Been Reading Has Us OK in 2016... NOT 2014... It Would Take A Wave Election...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:58 PM
Mar 2014

And that's my point...

Alex Sink had a six point lead a week out.

But the Democratic Base did not turn out for her.

She played on "enemy turf", telling voters that she would 'fix' Obamacare once elected.

And a thousand other things.

And with the 2010 Gerrymandering... it's gonna take a Wave Election... and you will ONLY get that by motivating the base, ie... making them angry enough to show up.


 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
24. Because . . .
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:49 PM
Mar 2014

Democrats don't turn out and vote in off-year elections. Republicans -- especially the "Base" turn out in the off-years in the same numbers as they do in presidential election years.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
4. What's gonna get people to the polls is making sure we GOTV
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:55 PM
Mar 2014

Quotes from George Carlin aren't going to win elections.

Sorry.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
6. And How Did That Work Out For Alex Sink ???
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:01 PM
Mar 2014

Again... 6 point lead, a week out. LOST.

Her opponent had the fervor of people who hate Obama, and Obama Care.

What is your plan... "Pretty Please???"


 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
17. And Although I Am Dismayed By It... It Seems We Have To Figure Out A Way To Make The Mid-Terms...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:17 PM
Mar 2014
As "Cool" as the Presidential Elections.

And I am looking for help.




zeemike

(18,998 posts)
26. Well it is hard to GOTV when people see no change.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:55 PM
Mar 2014

they just say fuck it, nothing is going to change so why should I bother.

And we had promises of change and 6 years of nothing but a slide further down the hill...(and if you think you can use the ACA as an example of some great change you are mistaken)...and the few democrats that spoke up for those people were labeled as the professional left and told to STFU and cheer for it as if it was something to cheer about.

And what are we hearing now?...the same old advice that has not worked before...play defense and threaten us with the boogie man GOP.
Most people are not committed to the party in that way....at least the Democrats are not...and the ones that are will not win an election for you.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
12. And It IS Just One Way... I'd Take Every Crazy Assed Thing A Republican Has Said In The Last Few...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:20 PM
Mar 2014
Years... And Broadcast That All Over The Airwaves... Make Them Own Their Words And Actions, And Ask Voters If That's Who They Want To Represent Them.

I'd find friends and neighbors in every community that were helped by the ACA.

I'd show children, mothers, fathers, grandfolk, vets... Everybody whose life was made more secure By the ACA.

AND... I'd put the faces of those who want to take it away from them, front and center.


Liberal_Dog

(11,075 posts)
20. Some Good Ideas
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:37 PM
Mar 2014

Unfortunately, we just had a demonstration of how to not get out the vote on national television. I posted this in the Malloy thread:

Example #1,453,678 of why being a Democrat is so frustrating: Chris Hayes had Mary Burke(running against Walker in Wisconsin) on his show and he asked her if she would repeal the collective bargaining law. And she wouldn't give him a straight answer!!! He had to ask the question again. Finally, she managed to say that she would try to restore collective bargaining. But she had to have it dragged out of her.

Burke's lameness surely will get those Wisconsin Dems fired up for November.

jimlup

(8,010 posts)
13. I agree with you
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:32 PM
Mar 2014

It is likely that the dems will take losses in 2014 unless they move to the left. But they are not likely to do that so we'll just have to deal with that fallout and the 2 years of Refucklian congress.

The democrats will rebound in '16 unless there is a failure at the top (which is possible). Either way the Refucklians are history but they are going to get some last kicks in and now is when. Sorry, I wish I didn't think this but I do.

We had better work our tails off to get out the vote in November and even if we do we had better keep pushing the politicians to the left or the people won't care and won't bother to vote.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
16. Unfortunately... That Means Obama Is Truly A Lame Duck...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:52 PM
Mar 2014

Everything will be relegated to Executive Orders.


rickyhall

(5,509 posts)
14. Our party
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:50 PM
Mar 2014

might get a surprise if they'd try running on a Liberal/Progressive platform. A good surprise. Think about it. PLEASE?

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
15. K&R
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:51 PM
Mar 2014
''The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.''

~George Bernard Shaw
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
18. Yep. Being the "not as bad" party and moving to the right is piss poor advertising and worse
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:23 PM
Mar 2014

governing.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
19. Or, one could support working people instead of banks for 6 years, and not have to
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:29 PM
Mar 2014

worry about the need for a slick ad campaign will buy you votes. Just in case, maybe try encouraging an inadequate increase in minimum wage, here. Hey, it's worth a shot, even if it wasn't done 6 years ago when, we are told, it was important to send money to banks and THAT would help those without any.

But that's people's lives water under the bridge now.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
21. The day we use the words "ruling class" in an ad is the day we lose the suburbs
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:23 PM
Mar 2014

Remember, we're trying to win over people who see themselves as belonging to that class one day.

red dog 1

(33,051 posts)
22. K&R...Thanks for posting.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:25 PM
Mar 2014

"Have you ever wondered why Republicans are so interested in encouraging people to volunteer in their communities?
It's because volunteers work for no pay.
Republicans have been trying to get people to work for no pay for a long time."

"Once you leave the womb, conservatives don't care about you until you reach military age.
Then you're just what they're looking for.
Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers."

"These days many politicians are demanding change..Just like homeless people."



IMO, George Carlin was a genius; and I wish he was still around.....just to bug the Republicans.




LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
23. Wow, so you really believe all the bullshit the republicans are trying to sell you. Shame!!
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:41 PM
Mar 2014

We lost a seat that has been held by the republicans for 32 years.

And get this, we almost WON that seat. Alex Sink only lost by 2 points. Pretty good for a republican held seat in a republican leaning districting during a random election not being held during any other major election.

Please stop buying the GOP talking bullshit that this election was somehow a GOP forecast for the future.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
27. She Was Ahead By 6 Points With A Week To Go... And She Said Shit Like This:
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:56 AM
Mar 2014

DULink: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024485381

How does that help ANYONE ???


LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
28. So?
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 11:45 AM
Mar 2014

I stopped believing polls ages ago since they can be manipulated. And I know she ran a crappy campaign to boot. Guess what she lost by 2points in a district that has been republican held for 2014.

If anything it tells me we can do this at the 2014 midterms.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
29. Telling Voters Democrats Have NO CHANCE Of Re-Taking The House In 2014... While At The Same Time...
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 11:54 AM
Mar 2014

asking them to vote for her, is about as stupid as it gets.

We have to be smarter than that for the next two election cycles.


former9thward

(33,424 posts)
30. The district is not "republican leaning"
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 12:11 PM
Mar 2014

The district is 37% R and 35% D. 28% I. Obama won the district in 2008 and 2012. Sink won the district in 2010 when she was running for governor. The DNC fully expected to pick up the seat because of changing demographics over the years. Yes, Young was re-elected over and over but that was because of incumbency and name recognition. It was expected when he left office the seat would go Democratic. Jolly was a new comer with no name recognition.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
32. And if Sink had lost during a major election day I would say there was a point to be made
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 01:35 PM
Mar 2014

But the election was in March and it was a special election and it was during the heart of spring break so many of the registered college kids at that university were elsewhere and democrats are notorious lazy voters.

The biggest shock to me would been if Sink had won the election against all those odds. So the fact that the district does have more registered republicans than democrats play a huge part in that result.

neverforget

(9,513 posts)
25. I posted this OP as a way to get our base motivated and have something to run on
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:52 PM
Mar 2014

that is positive.

Link to my OP from the House Progressive Caucus.

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