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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDear DNC, After The FL Loss Of Alex Sink, And With Frightening Forecasts Of The 2014 Elections...
May I Humbly Suggest You Find A Way To Insert This Into You Ad Campaigns In 2014.From George Carlin:
Link: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_Carlin
Get the rights, find the video, and overlay images of the war on women, LGBT, poor, immigrants, the young, the uninsured, the working person, the unions, minimum wage workers, veterans, EVERYBODY that the Republican Party has shit on, er... foresaken.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)If the country is headed in the right direction, as this administration tells us, why then does the democratic party seem headed for trouble come November?
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)in the right direction, but whether the voters do.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)And that's my point...
Alex Sink had a six point lead a week out.
But the Democratic Base did not turn out for her.
She played on "enemy turf", telling voters that she would 'fix' Obamacare once elected.
And a thousand other things.
And with the 2010 Gerrymandering... it's gonna take a Wave Election... and you will ONLY get that by motivating the base, ie... making them angry enough to show up.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)and I agree.
G_j
(40,568 posts)serious business
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)Democrats don't turn out and vote in off-year elections. Republicans -- especially the "Base" turn out in the off-years in the same numbers as they do in presidential election years.
2banon
(7,321 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Quotes from George Carlin aren't going to win elections.
Sorry.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Again... 6 point lead, a week out. LOST.
Her opponent had the fervor of people who hate Obama, and Obama Care.
What is your plan... "Pretty Please???"
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Not a good enough job of GOTV.
That's my point.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)And I am looking for help.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)they just say fuck it, nothing is going to change so why should I bother.
And we had promises of change and 6 years of nothing but a slide further down the hill...(and if you think you can use the ACA as an example of some great change you are mistaken)...and the few democrats that spoke up for those people were labeled as the professional left and told to STFU and cheer for it as if it was something to cheer about.
And what are we hearing now?...the same old advice that has not worked before...play defense and threaten us with the boogie man GOP.
Most people are not committed to the party in that way....at least the Democrats are not...and the ones that are will not win an election for you.
Useless in FL
(329 posts)ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)I'd find friends and neighbors in every community that were helped by the ACA.
I'd show children, mothers, fathers, grandfolk, vets... Everybody whose life was made more secure By the ACA.
AND... I'd put the faces of those who want to take it away from them, front and center.
Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)Unfortunately, we just had a demonstration of how to not get out the vote on national television. I posted this in the Malloy thread:
Example #1,453,678 of why being a Democrat is so frustrating: Chris Hayes had Mary Burke(running against Walker in Wisconsin) on his show and he asked her if she would repeal the collective bargaining law. And she wouldn't give him a straight answer!!! He had to ask the question again. Finally, she managed to say that she would try to restore collective bargaining. But she had to have it dragged out of her.
Burke's lameness surely will get those Wisconsin Dems fired up for November.
jimlup
(8,010 posts)It is likely that the dems will take losses in 2014 unless they move to the left. But they are not likely to do that so we'll just have to deal with that fallout and the 2 years of Refucklian congress.
The democrats will rebound in '16 unless there is a failure at the top (which is possible). Either way the Refucklians are history but they are going to get some last kicks in and now is when. Sorry, I wish I didn't think this but I do.
We had better work our tails off to get out the vote in November and even if we do we had better keep pushing the politicians to the left or the people won't care and won't bother to vote.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Everything will be relegated to Executive Orders.
rickyhall
(5,509 posts)might get a surprise if they'd try running on a Liberal/Progressive platform. A good surprise. Think about it. PLEASE?
~George Bernard Shaw
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)governing.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)worry about the need for a slick ad campaign will buy you votes. Just in case, maybe try encouraging an inadequate increase in minimum wage, here. Hey, it's worth a shot, even if it wasn't done 6 years ago when, we are told, it was important to send money to banks and THAT would help those without any.
But that's people's lives water under the bridge now.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Remember, we're trying to win over people who see themselves as belonging to that class one day.
red dog 1
(33,051 posts)"Have you ever wondered why Republicans are so interested in encouraging people to volunteer in their communities?
It's because volunteers work for no pay.
Republicans have been trying to get people to work for no pay for a long time."
"Once you leave the womb, conservatives don't care about you until you reach military age.
Then you're just what they're looking for.
Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers."
"These days many politicians are demanding change..Just like homeless people."
IMO, George Carlin was a genius; and I wish he was still around.....just to bug the Republicans.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)We lost a seat that has been held by the republicans for 32 years.
And get this, we almost WON that seat. Alex Sink only lost by 2 points. Pretty good for a republican held seat in a republican leaning districting during a random election not being held during any other major election.
Please stop buying the GOP talking bullshit that this election was somehow a GOP forecast for the future.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)DULink: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024485381
How does that help ANYONE ???
I stopped believing polls ages ago since they can be manipulated. And I know she ran a crappy campaign to boot. Guess what she lost by 2points in a district that has been republican held for 2014.
If anything it tells me we can do this at the 2014 midterms.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)asking them to vote for her, is about as stupid as it gets.
We have to be smarter than that for the next two election cycles.
former9thward
(33,424 posts)The district is 37% R and 35% D. 28% I. Obama won the district in 2008 and 2012. Sink won the district in 2010 when she was running for governor. The DNC fully expected to pick up the seat because of changing demographics over the years. Yes, Young was re-elected over and over but that was because of incumbency and name recognition. It was expected when he left office the seat would go Democratic. Jolly was a new comer with no name recognition.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)But the election was in March and it was a special election and it was during the heart of spring break so many of the registered college kids at that university were elsewhere and democrats are notorious lazy voters.
The biggest shock to me would been if Sink had won the election against all those odds. So the fact that the district does have more registered republicans than democrats play a huge part in that result.
neverforget
(9,513 posts)that is positive.
Link to my OP from the House Progressive Caucus.