A Poll To Bookmark... Regarding The Keystone XL Pipeline...

[WillyT]

Just thought it might be interesting to see where DU stands on this BEFORE the President makes his decision...

Theory being that some will follow the President no matter where he goes.

I DO NOT support the Keystone Pipeline, regardless of what the President says.

4 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
	I DO NOT support the Keystone Pipeline, regardless of what the President says.
	4 (100%)
	I DO support the Keystone Pipeline, regardless of what the President says.
	0 (0%)
	I will wait for the President to decide.
	0 (0%)
	I will wait for Godot.
	0 (0%)
	I got rhythm, I got music, I got my man, Who could ask for anything more?
	0 (0%)
	Obligatory Other
	0 (0%)
	0 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[NightWatcher]

1. I'm against it, but I know it will pass

I also know it will leak, rupture, spill, ruin water supplies, cause towns to be evacuated, and make no one in the US any richer....except for the people who respond to disasters and the bottled water industry.

[proverbialwisdom]

2. Oncologists, pulmonary specialists, worse.

Today
@SierraClubLive
@SenatorBoxer points to oil refineries in Port Arthur, TX that make children stay indoors due to pollution #nokxl pic.twitter.com/AnZDkVll1r

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http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Majority.LatestUpdates

Senators Boxer, Whitehouse Expose Harmful Health Impacts of Tar Sands and Keystone XL Pipeline
Posted by EPWChairmanBoxer

Published on Feb 26, 2014

Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA), Chairman of the Committee on Environment and Public Works (EPW), and Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) held a press conference on Wednesday, February 26th to expose the harmful health implications associated with tar sands oil and the proposed Keystone XL pipeline, which is currently under consideration. Senators Boxer, Whitehouse, doctors and community representatives spoke about the health impacts of tar sands oil on communities across the country. Additional speakers included:

Dr. John O'Connor, MD, Alberta, Canada
Dr. Stuart Batterman, Professor of Environmental Health Sciences, Univ. of Michigan School of Public Health
Hilton Kelley, Founder and CEO, Community In-power & Development Association Inc., Port Arthur, TX
Tom Shepherd, Vice President, Southeast Environmental Task Force, Chicago, IL

12:34 PM - 26 Feb 2014
EPWChairmanBoxer Verified account
Boxer's remarks: The Keystone Pipeline & The Threat to Human Health http://1.usa.gov/1frOvvb . Photo: Hilton Kelley pic.twitter.com/ixoMJHSPvh

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[proverbialwisdom]

3. More.

http://todayeco.com/pages/16800196-port-arthur-texas-american-sacrifice-zone
http://www.tarsandsblockade.org/endoftheline/
http://www.tarsandsblockade.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Tar-sands-Presentation-.pdf

[proverbialwisdom]

14. U.S. Fines Koch Industries Chemical Plant: Texas Facility to Spend More Than $45 Million on Upgrades

Not directly related to the XL pipeline issue, as far as I can tell, but the same location (Port Arthur, Texas) and polluters.

The Port Arthur plant manufactures ethylene and propylene, which are used to create plastics and other materials used in equipment such as medical devices and automotive parts.

http://sc.org/1nKsz2F

U.S. Fines Koch Industries Chemical Plant
Texas Facility to Spend More Than $45 Million on Upgrades

By TOM FOWLER
March 20, 2014 2:48 p.m. ET

The U.S. government fined a Texas chemical plant controlled by Koch Industries Inc. $350,000 for emissions violations and will require the company to spend more than $45 million on upgrades.

The refining and chemical complex in Port Arthur, Texas, violated Environmental Protection Agency regulations designed to limit emissions from leaking equipment and operated the plant's flaring equipment improperly, allowing excess amounts of benzene and other harmful substances to be released, the Justice Department said Thursday.

Under a settlement with the government, Koch unit Flint Hills Resources will earmark $28 million for new leak-detection equipment and $16 million for a system to recover and recycle waste gases before they are flared into the atmosphere. The company also will spend $2 million to retrofit diesel vehicles operated by the city of Port Arthur with equipment to improve emissions and another $350,000 to help improve energy efficiency in local low-income homes.

"This settlement will mean cleaner, healthier air for residents of the Port Arthur area who continue to bear a disproportionate burden from the impacts of industrial pollution," said Robert G. Dreher, an acting assistant attorney general in the Justice Department.

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[ZombieHorde]

4. A little over two hours.

19 people are willing to go on record.

[proverbialwisdom]

7. Inflammatory phrase "regardless of what the President says" should be deleted from the poll.

That's poll pushing and likely causes reflexive hesitation among supporters, IMO. Did you watch yesterday's hearing? What a minefield.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?318285-1/hearing-keystone-oil-pipeline

HEARING: KEYSTONE XL AND THE NATIONAL INTEREST DETERMINATION
U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
MARCH 13, 2014

C-Span link from flpoljunkie, thanks.

[ZombieHorde]

10. Why do you feel that phrase is inflamatory?

What view do you think the poll is trying to push?

[proverbialwisdom]

11. Framing matters. On first pass the poll guilted me into not voting 'against' the president. (nt)

[ZombieHorde]

12. That's really interesting.

Do you think that was the intent of the poll?

[proverbialwisdom]

13. Not at all but that was my experience last night & I only voted this AM after the 19 vote quip post.

[hrmjustin]

5. I do not suppport the pipeline.

[Electric Monk]

6. Did you include the Waiting For Godot option because one of the main characters is named Vladimir?

He said that Godot was sure to come tomorrow. (Pause.) What do you say to that?

[bigwillq]

8. I am against the Pipeline (nt)

[NCTraveler]

9. Never been for or against anything because of what the "President says".

I am against the Keystone Pipeline.