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Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:15 PM Mar 2014

Latest Gun Humper Shooting: This time, Dad shoots boy in Teen Daughter's Bedroom

http://m.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Dad-shoots-teen-found-in-his-daughter-s-room-5313696.php

Authorities investigate the shooting of a teen at a home in the 22300 block of Bridgestone Ridge, Thursday, March 13, 2014, in Houston. The shooing happened about 2:30 a.m. on Bridgestone Ridge near FM 2920 after a man found a a 17-year-old male in his daughter's bedroom. There was a struggle and the teen was shot.


SYG, Texas!!!
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Latest Gun Humper Shooting: This time, Dad shoots boy in Teen Daughter's Bedroom (Original Post) Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 OP
I would say 'gun humper' may not be an accurate reflection of what was going on. Shrike47 Mar 2014 #1
Cowboy shooting boy screwing his daughter. Yeah. . .teenage sex warrants a death sentence Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 #2
Actually, I was trying to make a crude, very crude, joke without getting hidden. Shrike47 Mar 2014 #3
Misunderstood. My sincerest of apologies. Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 #6
No, I don't think father should have shot the boy, who the article indicates was invited. Shrike47 Mar 2014 #5
Did the father know the boy was invited, SCUBANOW Mar 2014 #8
He killed a kid, what he believed would not make a difference in a sane world Bjorn Against Mar 2014 #9
If I caught someone raping my granddaughter, SCUBANOW Mar 2014 #10
There was no rape in this situation, he murdered an unarmed child who commited no crime Bjorn Against Mar 2014 #11
And this is the real problem with gun nuts... Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #15
I know, it is really disturbing Bjorn Against Mar 2014 #16
Would humper gunner work? Snotcicles Mar 2014 #4
Another problem billh58 Mar 2014 #7
Tip of the iceberg, look at this: Skip Intro Mar 2014 #12
Yes, obviously there is lots of violence surrounding guns Bjorn Against Mar 2014 #17
Because inner-city gang violence is a real problem in the upscale Houston suburbs. baldguy Mar 2014 #18
Not SYG. Reported that the girl claimed not to know the "intruder", a struggle ensued. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #13
Father is still responsible LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #20
It's really quite interesting MO_Moderate Mar 2014 #22
If, the girl in fact did invite the boy into her avebury Mar 2014 #35
i know a number of fathers who might act this way and not just in texas dembotoz Mar 2014 #19
Not seeing this as "gun humper" either, at least not from info presented sibelian Mar 2014 #21
Daddy got his power and authority challenged Shankapotomus Mar 2014 #23
so i take it that Bodhi BloodWave Mar 2014 #27
Your hypothetical makes no sense Shankapotomus Mar 2014 #29
You might have missed it in other articles. She denied knowing him. moriah Mar 2014 #30
Okay then Shankapotomus Mar 2014 #31
let me look it up Bodhi BloodWave Mar 2014 #32
What the girl said is Shankapotomus Mar 2014 #39
i would agree with you on that most of the time Bodhi BloodWave Mar 2014 #40
Perhaps the girl was looking out for her own avebury Mar 2014 #36
No, Daddy was presented with a strange man in his daughter's bedroom sibelian Mar 2014 #37
No, it IS the story. Shankapotomus Mar 2014 #38
His poor daughter. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2014 #24
How many threads will this tragic story require before we get the message(s)? Petrushka Mar 2014 #25
Considering I don't scour DU to see if something is posted in other forums Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 #28
For Banners, it's never enough times. They can do this... Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #41
Another angry paranoid man saved by his gun randr Mar 2014 #26
Deadly force must be judged based on what is know at the moment it is used JJChambers Mar 2014 #33
and another unarmed kid is shot. shoot first, shoot second, kill everyone then maybe Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 #34
 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
2. Cowboy shooting boy screwing his daughter. Yeah. . .teenage sex warrants a death sentence
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:38 PM
Mar 2014

I forgot.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
5. No, I don't think father should have shot the boy, who the article indicates was invited.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:43 PM
Mar 2014

I think the response was excessive. To a rape, maybe appreciate, but that's not the situation here.

 

SCUBANOW

(92 posts)
8. Did the father know the boy was invited,
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:51 PM
Mar 2014

or did he believe the boy was raping his daughter?

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
9. He killed a kid, what he believed would not make a difference in a sane world
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:57 PM
Mar 2014

He judged the boy as guilty until proven innocent and played judge, jury, and executioner. Anyone who would think it is acceptable to kill a person based on a mistaken belief is a disgusting murder supporter who should never be trusted with guns.

 

SCUBANOW

(92 posts)
10. If I caught someone raping my granddaughter,
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:15 PM
Mar 2014

I would have no problem doing everything/anything that I needed to do to stop it, and yes that includes deadly force. I have seen firsthand what a "kid" can do. I helped load a 17 year old in a body bag after being shot in the back of the head by a 10 year old during a gang fight in 1990.

Ohio Joe

(21,896 posts)
15. And this is the real problem with gun nuts...
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 12:47 AM
Mar 2014

Their fear is so great they justify the murder of innocent people because of their fears. They are just fine with murders like this because 'what if....'.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
16. I know, it is really disturbing
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:16 AM
Mar 2014

They don't seem to care at all about the person that was shot, only about the "right" to shoot someone on the basis of what might happen. I do not want people who justify murder to be owning guns, they try to tell me they are no threat to me but anyone who would try to justify murder is a person who should never be trusted with a gun.

billh58

(6,655 posts)
7. Another problem
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:47 PM
Mar 2014

neatly solved with a gun and summary vigilante justice by a "responsible" gun owner.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
17. Yes, obviously there is lots of violence surrounding guns
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:19 AM
Mar 2014

Thanks for pointing out the harm that guns are doing to our society, there are way too many guns on our streets and until the NRA types stop pushing more and more guns the violence you cite will continue.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
18. Because inner-city gang violence is a real problem in the upscale Houston suburbs.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:25 AM
Mar 2014

And this shooting has nothing to do with gun nut paranoia.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
13. Not SYG. Reported that the girl claimed not to know the "intruder", a struggle ensued.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 12:18 AM
Mar 2014

A father finds a strange man in daughter's bedroom and daughter doesn't know him, or says as much???

A father might, in his own home (not stand your ground) might defend self and family.

...Detectives say the man's 16-year-old daughter let the 17-year-old boy into her family's home in Spring, Texas, and sneaked him into her bedroom, but when her father walked in and questioned who the boy was, she said she didn't know.

An argument reportedly ensued between the boy and the father.

The father told police he opened fire on the teen after the teen dropped his hands as if to grab something. He died at the scene....

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cops-dad-fatally-shoots-boy-in-teen-daughters-bedroom/

LostOne4Ever

(9,730 posts)
14. Father is still responsible
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 12:33 AM
Mar 2014

The moment he shot before seeing any type of weapon, the responsibility became his.

Though, seeing as this is Texas, I doubt he will be charged. My home state does love its guns.

Response to LostOne4Ever (Reply #14)

avebury

(11,186 posts)
35. If, the girl in fact did invite the boy into her
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 08:49 AM
Mar 2014

house and if she did in fact sneak him into her room, and then if she did in fact deny knowing the boy her actions directly contributed to the death of the boy. If she knew her Dad owned a gun just what did she think would happen if her Dad caught the boy in her room?

If that is what played out and the boy's family may have a case in civil court against the girl and her family.

 

dembotoz

(16,922 posts)
19. i know a number of fathers who might act this way and not just in texas
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:59 AM
Mar 2014

prosecution is gonna have a hard time with this oner

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
21. Not seeing this as "gun humper" either, at least not from info presented
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:28 AM
Mar 2014

A strange man in the daughter's bedroom that the daughter says she doesn't know, what the hell's the guy going to think? Very obviously he's going to think: "rape".

That girl is in trouble.

Bodhi BloodWave

(2,346 posts)
27. so i take it that
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 03:26 PM
Mar 2014

in a hypothetical situation where you find a stranger in your daughters bedroom around 2:30 at night and your daughter claims she doesn't know him you would think along the lines of 'oh, my daughter is surely just lying to me'?

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
29. Your hypothetical makes no sense
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:30 AM
Mar 2014

1. No where in the article does it say she denied knowing the boy

And

2. It would make no sense for a girl to make the situation worse than it would otherwise be by pretending her boyfriend is an intruder.

moriah

(8,312 posts)
30. You might have missed it in other articles. She denied knowing him.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:41 AM
Mar 2014

"When the armed and angry dad confronted the teens and asked who the boy was, his daughter at first denied having a clue, according to deputies."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mom-texas-boy-shot-death-girl-bedroom-apology-article-1.1721939#ixzz2w0ziucXr

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
31. Okay then
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:53 AM
Mar 2014

Sounds like the daughter has been coached to protect the father. I mean really? The gun appeared and the girl didn't immediately reveal who the boy really was? During the scuffle she wasn't screaming it was her boyfriend? Either she's been coached or the whole situation is pretty stupid and tragic.

Bodhi BloodWave

(2,346 posts)
32. let me look it up
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 07:25 AM
Mar 2014

Since i found the information in the article lacking i looked around for other sources as well

Detectives say the man's 16-year-old daughter let the 17-year-old boy into her family's home in Spring, Texas, and sneaked him into her bedroom, but when her father walked in and questioned who the boy was, she said she didn't know.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cops-dad-fatally-shoots-boy-in-teen-daughters-bedroom/

addendum: just saw somebody else have replied to you as well, but one sentence from the chronicles(OP's link) report makes me doubt he is a gun humper(OP's choice of words)

Authorities on Thursday did not identify the boy or the 55-year-old suspect, who was taken to a nearby hospital after the shooting for symptoms of a panic attack.

*

Had he been the crazed gun lover some people have tried painting him as i doubt he would have suffered a panic attack, i can however see him getting one if he shoots somebody he believes is a burglar(or worse) due to his daughter claiming she doesn't know him, only to have her admit that she knew the kid after he is shot since its likely a heavy blow to learn you shot an innocent kid.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
39. What the girl said is
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 01:17 PM
Mar 2014

largely irrelevant since, obviously, being her boyfriend, he would not have been found in the process of attacking his daughter...probably just standing there...and therefore exhibited no imminent threat...

Unless of course, you think it's okay to shoot someone in your home based on a lie from your kid?

I didn't think so.

Bodhi BloodWave

(2,346 posts)
40. i would agree with you on that most of the time
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:30 PM
Mar 2014

If the reports are accurate it depends on exactly what the argument/movement was though

i'm going to wait for more information though before making a final judgement(though preliminary opinion is justified based on what he knew at the time)

avebury

(11,186 posts)
36. Perhaps the girl was looking out for her own
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 08:51 AM
Mar 2014

interests when dealing with an angry Dad. If she did in fact deny knowing the boy initially, she threw the boy to the wolves (in this case - Dad).

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
37. No, Daddy was presented with a strange man in his daughter's bedroom
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:04 AM
Mar 2014

and, fearing for her safety, over-reacted.

But you don't like stories like that, do you? That's not the poor hapless wench being oppressed by disgusted patriarchal man-beast. No good to you.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
38. No, it IS the story.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 01:11 PM
Mar 2014

Unless he was witnessing his daughter in the process of being attacked, the safest thing he could of done for everyone was vacate the premises.

But even though he surely saw no attack in process, he still introduced a gun to the situation and ended up killing the kid.

That's all I need to know about this low life's motives because, of course, a teenager with his daughter just standing there not doing anything or maybe just trying to leave..why, of course there is no other explanation why he is there so let's get a weapon...

And don't foget, the dead kid is not around to tell his side...where have we seen that before?

No, not changing my mind about this one.

leftyladyfrommo

(19,940 posts)
24. His poor daughter.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:51 AM
Mar 2014

She will never, ever be right after experiencing something so awful. And the guilt? Whoa.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
28. Considering I don't scour DU to see if something is posted in other forums
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:22 PM
Mar 2014

and I stay normally in LBN and GD, I'm sorry if it's a dupe.

Add to the fact I'm 8000 miles away, please excuse my oversight

 

JJChambers

(1,115 posts)
33. Deadly force must be judged based on what is know at the moment it is used
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 07:32 AM
Mar 2014

Facts learned after the use of deadly force cannot be considered in determining whether the force was justified of not. This rule of law swings both ways.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
34. and another unarmed kid is shot. shoot first, shoot second, kill everyone then maybe
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 08:43 AM
Mar 2014

ask a question. Sentence first, verdict afterwards.

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