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I propose a new term: White-Winger. (Original Post) AAO Mar 2014 OP
Suppose they go to the beach and get a tan? upaloopa Mar 2014 #1
Dag nabbit!! AAO Mar 2014 #2
Tan bagger...eom Purrfessor Mar 2014 #74
racist teabagger ? that's like saying racist KKK JI7 Mar 2014 #3
Yes, keep going. Kick some racist ass! AAO Mar 2014 #4
Agree. I have been using that term a lot lately to refer to Tbaggers. Hoyt Mar 2014 #5
Ethnic slurs of any kind are not progressive. .. pipoman Mar 2014 #6
I agree with that sentiment, but I don't think this counts as one, TBH. nt AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #8
Is "white power" an ethnic slur? Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #10
A slur is about context... pipoman Mar 2014 #11
What contextually makes "white-winger" an ethnic slur? Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #13
The same things that make white trash an ethnic slur hootinholler Mar 2014 #14
So calling someone a white racist is tantamount to calling someone trash because they're white? Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #16
Substitute black for white and maybe it will be clearer hootinholler Mar 2014 #20
You can't simply substitute it. Black Americans are oppressed for being black. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #27
Judgements AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #75
Saying white people have historically enjoyed unfair advantages is not a "judgement based upon skin nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #78
Yah ... who's supposed to be offended re: wigger? 1000words Mar 2014 #18
IMHO, Everyone. n/t hootinholler Mar 2014 #21
I concur. 1000words Mar 2014 #22
No. Your comment is an oxymoron. madinmaryland Mar 2014 #35
I don't think you understand the context of my comment. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #37
Must be acceptable. Already used in the Gungeon... Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #56
white power? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #66
That sketch demonstrates the idiocy and myopia of racism better than anything else I can think of. nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #79
He set the tone for his show on Day 1 WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #80
Seems to apply quite well, IMO. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #7
The Rethugs love racial polarization LittleBlue Mar 2014 #9
Uh, maybe some "progressives" love racial polarization, too? Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #57
"Racist" doesn't do the job well enough? 1000words Mar 2014 #12
WHAT if this WINGER...has a name.. like yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #15
I oppose any term sarisataka Mar 2014 #17
It's not even a new term, to start. 1000words Mar 2014 #19
Yeah it's on that 'dictionary' anyone can add to for the last 5 months, how can anyone not Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #25
It is unimportant if it is new or old sarisataka Mar 2014 #26
So by this thinking....calling someone a Chauvinist...is tantamount to sexist itself!!! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #28
Is chauvinist sarisataka Mar 2014 #31
its based on gender! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #33
Is it? sarisataka Mar 2014 #36
it WAS often used in the past to describe males who were sexist towards women... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #38
Though uncommon sarisataka Mar 2014 #39
Uh it was most often used TOWARDS males...and often without the adjective... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #40
i suppose we can quibble sarisataka Mar 2014 #41
the point still remains..... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #43
I don't think sarisataka Mar 2014 #45
then what IS your point....I DO believe it fits...I lived among them long enough.. VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #46
Which fits sarisataka Mar 2014 #48
He is all that... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #51
+100 - for integrity. n/t Skip Intro Mar 2014 #50
Might actually work. After all, the word "right" really doesn't fit. calimary Mar 2014 #23
Yay! That's only half-racist, because you leave out leftist Whites. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #24
Well, I don't think was the intention, though, TBH..... AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #42
When skin color is used derogatorily, as here, it is racist. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #49
Racist? I'm white so how am I being racist? I'm just pointing out a fact, and giving it a name. AAO Mar 2014 #61
Wow. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #67
The baggers are the ones evaluating people by skin color - I'm just giving it a name. AAO Mar 2014 #69
You invite replies when you start a thread. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #72
Everyone one of you is overreacting, trying to out holier than thou each other AAO Mar 2014 #83
I will try not to use it. bravenak Mar 2014 #29
+1000 . . . but I call them JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #76
There's also "wrong-winger" arcane1 Mar 2014 #30
I prefer "White Whinger", to use a British expression Retrograde Mar 2014 #32
My one Tea Party friend on fb is a black guy. ZombieHorde Mar 2014 #34
Because a little more race-based divisiveness will surely improve things... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2014 #44
Nah. People will think you have a speech impediment. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #47
Uh-oh! Can a black person be a "White-Winger" too? Petrushka Mar 2014 #52
Sure, if they believe White people are superior to them they can. AAO Mar 2014 #62
Uncle Rukus.nt bravenak Mar 2014 #77
I think it works The Traveler Mar 2014 #53
Ain't that the truth. He's a sane intelligent man, with the burden of seeing into the abyss... AAO Mar 2014 #54
What good is served by using the term? Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #58
It makes me laugh. I understand you don't think it funny, which is your right. AAO Mar 2014 #63
So, all about your laughter. nt Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #68
Lady, get a life please. AAO Mar 2014 #70
Get another cliche. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #71
How's get a clue? AAO Mar 2014 #84
Well, that is the most clever term, ever! deaniac21 Mar 2014 #55
Keep this one in your box of fried chicken. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #59
Funny the reactions you get sometimes... AAO Mar 2014 #60
Do we really need more terms to divide people? FSogol Mar 2014 #64
I want racist teabaggers divided right out of the country if possible! AAO Mar 2014 #65
I thought it was funny. Iris Mar 2014 #82
Good idea. "Cracker" is so 1970. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #73
It sounds like a racist term to me. LWolf Mar 2014 #81

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
1. Suppose they go to the beach and get a tan?
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 06:59 PM
Mar 2014

Why are we so hung up on white on this board?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. Agree. I have been using that term a lot lately to refer to Tbaggers.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 07:31 PM
Mar 2014

It really gets the bigoted conservatives ticked on Facebook.

hootinholler

(26,451 posts)
14. The same things that make white trash an ethnic slur
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 09:19 PM
Mar 2014

Or to go a step farther how do you feel about wigger?

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
16. So calling someone a white racist is tantamount to calling someone trash because they're white?
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 09:45 PM
Mar 2014

That's certainly news to me.

hootinholler

(26,451 posts)
20. Substitute black for white and maybe it will be clearer
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 09:54 PM
Mar 2014

The term white trash is not calling someone trash because they are white it is defining an inferior class of white people and used by those with a need to feel superior. Much like I suspect the OP's motivation.

It is not good behavior to build yourself up by tearing others down, that's what republicans do. Sadly there is more and more of that happening here.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
27. You can't simply substitute it. Black Americans are oppressed for being black.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:07 PM
Mar 2014

Whereas White Americans are not oppressed for being white. In fact, they have special privilege for being white.

Very often, ethnic slurs against people of color involve historical context that simply doesn't exist for white people So the implications of using "white" in a turn of phrase are different from using "black." Very different.




nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
78. Saying white people have historically enjoyed unfair advantages is not a "judgement based upon skin
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 07:41 PM
Mar 2014

color" but a simple fact, and has nothing to do with any individual white person being evil.

madinmaryland

(65,729 posts)
35. No. Your comment is an oxymoron.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:33 PM
Mar 2014

That is not an ethnic slur. Please explain why you feel it is a slur.


Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
37. I don't think you understand the context of my comment.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:40 PM
Mar 2014

I don't believe "white power" is an ethnic slur.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
56. Must be acceptable. Already used in the Gungeon...
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 09:31 PM
Mar 2014

and in Guns Discussion (GD). So it scores well on the PeakHate Scale™.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
79. That sketch demonstrates the idiocy and myopia of racism better than anything else I can think of.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 07:44 PM
Mar 2014

It's literally laughable, or would be if the stakes weren't so high.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
7. Seems to apply quite well, IMO.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 07:46 PM
Mar 2014

Because that is EXACTLY how the good majority of hard and far-right wingers are.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
9. The Rethugs love racial polarization
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 07:47 PM
Mar 2014

They need to do that because we have the winning issues.

So why do this?

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
12. "Racist" doesn't do the job well enough?
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 07:57 PM
Mar 2014

Essentially, your response to those framing issues solely by race is to frame the issue by race.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
17. I oppose any term
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 09:51 PM
Mar 2014

That judges a person based on their skin color.

Would DU accept a label that applied only to RW minorities? Something beginning with Uncle? It would not and should not.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
25. Yeah it's on that 'dictionary' anyone can add to for the last 5 months, how can anyone not
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 09:59 PM
Mar 2014

know it?
Good fucking god.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
26. It is unimportant if it is new or old
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:00 PM
Mar 2014

What matters if a slur based or race/ skin color is appropriate

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
36. Is it?
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:37 PM
Mar 2014

and does it only apply to one gender?
That's news to Webster

chau·vin·ism [shoh-vuh-niz-uhm]
noun
1.
zealous and aggressive patriotism or blind enthusiasm for military glory.
2.
biased devotion to any group, attitude, or cause: religious chauvinism.
3.
the denigration, disparagement, and patronization of either sex based on the belief that one sex is inferior to the other and thus deserving of less than equal treatment or benefit. Compare male chauvinism.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/chauvinism
 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
38. it WAS often used in the past to describe males who were sexist towards women...
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:47 PM
Mar 2014

I have never heard it used towards a female...

but you knew that...

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
39. Though uncommon
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:53 PM
Mar 2014

I have heard it applied to females, back in the 70's when females were asserting themselves as equals.

Perhaps you didn't know that.

If it only applied to men the term male chauvinist would be redundant

but you knew that...

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
40. Uh it was most often used TOWARDS males...and often without the adjective...
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 11:15 PM
Mar 2014

I was there...

But you KNEW that...

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
41. i suppose we can quibble
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 11:31 PM
Mar 2014

Over the percentage of each gender it was used on; ignoring the original meaning...

I disapprove of sexist terms as well as racist

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
45. I don't think
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 11:49 PM
Mar 2014

I ever denied that.

My statement was simply i don't think the suggestion in the OP is a term appropriate to a progressive site

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
46. then what IS your point....I DO believe it fits...I lived among them long enough..
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 11:51 PM
Mar 2014

my own father is one...

Personal experience....the shoe fits!

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
48. Which fits
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 12:01 AM
Mar 2014

If he is a chauvinist I'm sorry and as the term is non-specific it would be accurate.

If he is a right wing caucasian racist I'm sorry for you as well but i still believe the term white-winger is an inappropriate broad brush based on a racial identity. I believe it is little different than referring to 'some' African Americans as thugs.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
51. He is all that...
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 01:36 AM
Mar 2014

and he is a White Winger in every sense of the word. The shoe DOES fit him...if it doesn't fit you...then walk away...its not about YOU. This isn't about broad brush painting ALL White people....just those of the rightwing persuasion....I do not understand how this offends YOU if YOU are not one of them. I hope you realize that Rightwing of this country are almost to a one White!

calimary

(90,039 posts)
23. Might actually work. After all, the word "right" really doesn't fit.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 09:58 PM
Mar 2014

Because pretty much NOTHING about them is anywhere close to being right. About ANYTHING.

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
49. When skin color is used derogatorily, as here, it is racist.
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 12:54 AM
Mar 2014

Ironically so in this instance. Which isn't a rare instance on DU.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
61. Racist? I'm white so how am I being racist? I'm just pointing out a fact, and giving it a name.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 03:38 PM
Mar 2014

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
67. Wow.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 10:19 PM
Mar 2014

You're trying to coin a new term that would evaluate people in part based on the color of their skin, for starters.

Would you do similar with Black or Latino or Asian? Of course not. Why not? Because it would be racist. It isn't magically different when you use Whites. It's broad-brush racism all the same. No, it doesn't matter that you're White. The color of your skin doesn't matter. That's the whole point.

Plus I get a little tired of the hate Whitey threads. Slam repukes all you want, no need to make it racial.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
69. The baggers are the ones evaluating people by skin color - I'm just giving it a name.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 10:05 AM
Mar 2014

When a whole group of white people are racists, I will point it out - sorry if it offends you, but that's life. You get tired of "hate whitey" threads? I don't hate people because of their skin color, but if you think this is a "hate whitey" thread and you don't like it, then save yourself the grief and pick another OP to annoy.

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
72. You invite replies when you start a thread.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 11:44 AM
Mar 2014

If replies annoy you, maybe you shouldn't start a thread?



I'm not the only one taking offense to your OP, btw, as is evidenced by several other replies. But by all means, if you want to slam people because of the color of their skin, group people by skin color, etc, knock yourself out. Don't be surprised, though, when others call it what it actually is.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
83. Everyone one of you is overreacting, trying to out holier than thou each other
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 08:42 PM
Mar 2014

I'm just here for the entertainment.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
29. I will try not to use it.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:10 PM
Mar 2014

I'd hate to be called a black winger.
I hated wigger too. Stupid name. Hated it. Made me cringe.
I just call them the tea party.

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
76. +1000 . . . but I call them
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 01:36 PM
Mar 2014

The IndieTeaPublicans because the 'teas' and 'indies' normally find a cozy home in the party of that abject bigot Paul Ryan.

Wigger makes me want to . That's just not nice. Yuck!

Retrograde

(11,419 posts)
32. I prefer "White Whinger", to use a British expression
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:26 PM
Mar 2014

a whinger being someone who complains about or finds fault in everything.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
34. My one Tea Party friend on fb is a black guy.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:32 PM
Mar 2014

Calling him a "white winger" might be kind of funny.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
47. Nah. People will think you have a speech impediment.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 11:58 PM
Mar 2014

Sounds like Elmer Fudd saying "wascally wabbit".

 

The Traveler

(5,632 posts)
53. I think it works
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 04:15 AM
Mar 2014

In its early days, the Tea Party seemed to be a reaction to the incestuous relationship between government and the financial sector. But with the election of Barack Obama (with whom, I must admit, I have serious policy differences), things changed ... and the energy of the movement was suddenly derived from racism.

And all that gives guys like me trouble. I have issues with Obama policies and practice. Those issues are non-trivial. But how can I oppose Obama and his crowd without adding to the political energy of these race baiting misogynistic homophobic assholes? I'm a long haired white guy ... and a redneck with a lot of education. I know dog whistle when I hear it. I grew up around that stuff. And much Republican rhetoric and deed goes far beyond the subtlety of dog whistle.

So I find myself walking this rather fine line. No. I am not a happy Obama supporter. I voted for him enthusiastically in 2008. I did so again in 2012, because the alternative was clearly unacceptable. And indeed it remains that despite all my difficulties with Mr. Obama's policies and practices. His political opposition is clearly so much worse.

Lesser of two evils? Yeah. I'll go for that every time, but it is too much to expect me to be happy about that. So forgive me if I cling to certain ideals ... And yet, when I regard the ferocity and irrationality of his opposition, I really don't see how anyone could be realistically expected to do a better job. Obama may not be all I want him to be ... but he is a sane man, and he is confronting madness.

Trav

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
54. Ain't that the truth. He's a sane intelligent man, with the burden of seeing into the abyss...
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 06:36 PM
Mar 2014
 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
60. Funny the reactions you get sometimes...
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 10:04 PM
Mar 2014

The term Right-Winger we are all familiar with. My point was that there are a large segment of these people that are racist >100 IQ types. Obviously the vast majority of these racists are white. So the term white-winger. If you can't handle that, then fire away. But remember you will look quite foolish.

Iris

(16,875 posts)
82. I thought it was funny.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 08:11 PM
Mar 2014

I also think it's interesting how no one wants to point out the obvious. And when they do, there's always an exception to point out to "prove" that the extreme right wing's ideas are so universal even (some) minorities agree with them.

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