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underpants

(182,769 posts)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:05 PM Mar 2012

"goons" (not -----) which is a "term of endearment" according to Zimmerman's best friend

This morning on ABC News, Oliver was asked about the moment on the 911 tapes when some believe that, just prior to killing Trayvon Martin, Zimmerman used a racial slur. Oliver suggested that Zimmerman did not use a racial slur but said “goons,” which Oliver described as a “term of endearment.” Watch it:



http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/03/25/451392/friend-zimmerman-racial-slur-term-of-endearment/

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"goons" (not -----) which is a "term of endearment" according to Zimmerman's best friend (Original Post) underpants Mar 2012 OP
I always thought "goons" was an old-school term for "thugs" MADem Mar 2012 #1
It is. Zimmerman thinks we're as stupid as he is. nt valerief Mar 2012 #6
Yep. MADem Mar 2012 #12
I've only heard it in the context of hockey pokerfan Mar 2012 #17
Me too. However, I HAVE heard the other term used Mariana Mar 2012 #19
I am not buying it either. MADem Mar 2012 #20
Twisting and spinning to get a racist profiling murderer off the hook CakeGrrl Mar 2012 #2
Oh dear MNBrewer Mar 2012 #3
I don't think anyone in their right mind bought that in the slightest. Quixote1818 Mar 2012 #4
Someone needs to alert Hallmark Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #5
+10 DUZY.... ROFL !!! n/t K Gardner Mar 2012 #7
I second that! nt Quixote1818 Mar 2012 #23
I know whenever I want my kids to know how much I love them, I K Gardner Mar 2012 #8
It will be ever so much more special if you hold out Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #13
You haven't seen the new goon birthday card? valerief Mar 2012 #11
I agree--DUzy! nt MADem Mar 2012 #15
can I take that as my floating holiday? onethatcares Mar 2012 #31
Works for me. I also believed Rick Santorum when he said gort Mar 2012 #9
A term of endearment huh?.......... socialist_n_TN Mar 2012 #10
Yes, exactly who was he endearing with this term? arcane1 Mar 2012 #16
I suppose "these assholes" is also a term of endearment, too? Old and In the Way Mar 2012 #14
"Goons" and "Bleh People"... SomethingFishy Mar 2012 #18
Interesting that he didn't go for the "fucking punks" interpretation. Mariana Mar 2012 #21
To me this just comes across that it is in fact on the tapes obxhead Mar 2012 #22
Let's just say, for the sake of argument, that "goons" can be a term of endearment... ljm2002 Mar 2012 #24
He only followed Trayvon to express his endearment arcane1 Mar 2012 #28
So it's not another word for "blaaaaah people"? KamaAina Mar 2012 #25
the last definition is one I had not heard before, but nowhere do I see anything as a term of " niyad Mar 2012 #26
And Santorum said "blah" people. yardwork Mar 2012 #27
Someone on DU enhanced the audio of the word in question Oilwellian Mar 2012 #29
How long did it take.. butterfly77 Mar 2012 #30

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. I always thought "goons" was an old-school term for "thugs"
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:07 PM
Mar 2012

...and I haven't heard that word since the late fifties, early sixties!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
12. Yep.
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:18 PM
Mar 2012

Thing is, all that might make some intrepid Jimmy Olsen or Lois Lane want to do is run around and ask people if Georgie was an habitual user of that word, or if he used that OTHER word, you know, the one that is the last syllable of the term that describes those bandit-faced furry creatures that knock over the garbage cans in some environments?

Twisted explanations almost never cut it!



He doesn't look like he's buying it, either!

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
17. I've only heard it in the context of hockey
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:24 PM
Mar 2012
Enforcer is an unofficial role in ice hockey. The term is sometimes used synonymously with "fighter", "tough guy", or "goon". An enforcer's job is to deter and respond to dirty or violent play by the opposition. When such play occurs, the enforcer is expected to respond aggressively, by fighting or checking the offender. Enforcers are expected to react particularly harshly to violence against star players or goalies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enforcer_%28ice_hockey%29


I'm not buying this latest spin.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
19. Me too. However, I HAVE heard the other term used
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:33 PM
Mar 2012

by racist assholes. Some people seem to think that term is obsolete and is no longer used when referring to people with dark skin. That is not true.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
20. I am not buying it either.
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:36 PM
Mar 2012

And really, why would anyone call 911 and mutter a "term of endearment" about the person one is pursuing to the 911 operator, right before they shot the person?

"Yeah I'm following this 'just adorable little muffin-faced sweetheart'..." BOOM!

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
2. Twisting and spinning to get a racist profiling murderer off the hook
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:08 PM
Mar 2012

Too bad there are so many 911 calls that illustrate his bias.

Quixote1818

(28,928 posts)
4. I don't think anyone in their right mind bought that in the slightest.
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:11 PM
Mar 2012

Talk about absurd! I about threw up on that one.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
5. Someone needs to alert Hallmark
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:11 PM
Mar 2012

They are apparently missing out on the all important "Fucking goon" sentiment.

Maybe someone can pick a day in, say, August or some other low-card-sending-month to celebrate this term of endearment in a more formal manner.

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
8. I know whenever I want my kids to know how much I love them, I
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:15 PM
Mar 2012

make sure and say: "You know I love you, you fucking goon."

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
13. It will be ever so much more special if you hold out
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:18 PM
Mar 2012

for Fucking Goon Day. That way, they will know you really, really mean it.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
11. You haven't seen the new goon birthday card?
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:18 PM
Mar 2012

Another year has passed.
It's time to sing that tune.
Happy birthday to you,
My friend, my pal, my goon.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
10. A term of endearment huh?..........
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:17 PM
Mar 2012

Even giving him this phrase instead of the more racially charged one, WHY would he use a "term of endearment" for someone he obviously thought was an "asshole who always gets away with it"? Or whatever the following phrase was. Not only is it a CYA move, it doesn't even make sense. At least not as a "term of endearment".

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
16. Yes, exactly who was he endearing with this term?
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:22 PM
Mar 2012

Trayvon? The dispatcher?


This is one of the most pitiful defenses I've seen in quite some time, and actually serves to further convince me that he did in fact say "coons"

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
14. I suppose "these assholes" is also a term of endearment, too?
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:18 PM
Mar 2012

Zimmerman used dehumanizing, racist language in his 911 tapes. It really matters not if it were coons/goons. He's still a racist. I'm betting there are other "terms of endearment" that Zimmerman has documented. I want to know what his online name was and where he posted. I sure hope they can locate his digital life because I'll bet this guy had lots of insight to share about blacks.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
21. Interesting that he didn't go for the "fucking punks" interpretation.
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:37 PM
Mar 2012

Since lots of people seem to hear that on the tape, and while it's an insult, it's not racial. He MUST have said "coons".

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
22. To me this just comes across that it is in fact on the tapes
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:42 PM
Mar 2012

and that "fucking coons" is exactly what he said.

Hopefully the racist asshole Zimmermann will be arrested soon.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
24. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, that "goons" can be a term of endearment...
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:10 PM
Mar 2012

...now please explain how the term "fucking goons" is still a term of endearment??? Especially when it is uttered seconds before fatally shooting the person in question???

Puhleeze. This person is a fucking goon. And by that, I do not mean a term of endearment!

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
28. He only followed Trayvon to express his endearment
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:47 PM
Mar 2012

He just wanted to give him a hug and was unjustly attacked for it.

It all makes sense now

niyad

(113,259 posts)
26. the last definition is one I had not heard before, but nowhere do I see anything as a term of "
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:22 PM
Mar 2012

endearment"

goon
[goon] ? Example Sentences Origin

goon
? ?[goon] Show IPA
noun
1.
Informal . a hired hoodlum or thug.
2.
Slang .
a.
a stupid, foolish, or awkward person.
b.
a roughneck.
Origin:
1920–25; shortened from dial. gooney, variant of obsolete gony a simpleton (< ?); influenced by the comic-strip character Alice the Goon in the series Thimble Theatre by E. C. Segar (1894–1938), American cartoonist
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Here was this guy who was the biggest goon alive, and he was so kind.

Anybody who is not in on the goon conspiracy knows what he's about.

The regime arrested many protest leaders and sent in plain-clothes goon squads to attack the demonstrators.

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goon 1 (ɡuːn)

— n
1. a stupid or deliberately foolish person
2. informal ( US ) a thug hired to commit acts of violence or intimidation, esp in an industrial dispute

[C20: partly from dialect gooney fool, partly after the character Alice the Goon, created by E. C. Segar (1894--1938), American cartoonist]

goon 2

— n
informal ( Austral ) cheap wine packaged in casks or boxed (I have heard of cheap wine being called "plonk", but this is a new one to me)

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yardwork

(61,588 posts)
27. And Santorum said "blah" people.
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:24 PM
Mar 2012

It would appear that Zimmerman's friend is conceding that he used a racist slur.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
29. Someone on DU enhanced the audio of the word in question
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 04:09 PM
Mar 2012

It was clearly a hard "C" sound. Can't find the link now.

I'm sure the professional software available to enhance every word captured by the 911 calls will answer a lot of our questions.

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