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HarveyDarkey

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Ugh. I HATE authoritarians! Rex Mar 2014 #1
Ain't gonna happen. KamaAina Mar 2014 #2
I like this comment from the original link: Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2014 #11
I think Pat Robertson's tv show should have an atheist cohost. lob1 Mar 2014 #29
His face would get even more wrinkly! Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2014 #41
Somebody tell them that there's no loner a Fairness Doctrine for TV. sinkingfeeling Mar 2014 #3
My Astrologist is also demanding equal time. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #4
Neil deGrasse Tyson on episode 2: Chiyo-chichi Mar 2014 #5
That was great Gothmog Mar 2014 #30
Their sniveling is both pathetic and hilarious! 2banon Mar 2014 #6
Project Steve Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2014 #14
And of course, the Project Steve Song. longship Mar 2014 #28
This is great Gothmog Mar 2014 #31
Sure, as soon as you start demanding the Fairness Doctrine be reinstated ... Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2014 #7
“Boy, but when you have so many scientists who simply do not accept Darwinian evolution ..." Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2014 #8
They throw in 'Darwinian' to confuse the issue maxsolomon Mar 2014 #40
The nerve of the guy not getting it right the first time! Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2014 #42
Creationists get plenty of opportunity to air their views. Brigid Mar 2014 #9
The earth was not created in 6000 years nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #10
Are they gonna put Tyson on the 700 club? Spirochete Mar 2014 #12
I find this demand as repugnant as teaching creationism in schools. LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #13
LOL: They already have equal time in Sunday School. n/t FSogol Mar 2014 #15
Balance doesn't exist in the scientific world AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #16
There is no balance on Fox News Gothmog Mar 2014 #32
True but... AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #33
Reality has a well know liberal bias. KittyWampus Mar 2014 #37
There are about ten religious channels on my menu and Cleita Mar 2014 #17
Why would a science show feature religion? Oh, I see, because the fundy nutsos valerief Mar 2014 #18
I love the fact that he's so sharp_stick Mar 2014 #19
The fact that this got any coverage at all is your "balance." There ya go... n/t dogknob Mar 2014 #20
and Planarism? and Firmamentism?! MisterP Mar 2014 #21
Uppercase Effing No malaise Mar 2014 #22
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha !!! WillyT Mar 2014 #23
This is the correct answer... South_Street Mar 2014 #26
Let them rail against it in their churches Warpy Mar 2014 #24
Not a bad idea! Turbineguy Mar 2014 #25
Let them have it ASA they show any scientific proof of their belief. Vincardog Mar 2014 #27
Because it's about SCIENCE. KatyaR Mar 2014 #34
Belief is not science - TBF Mar 2014 #35
Neil is my TV crush… mover over Stephen Colbert! He could make it a teachable moment KittyWampus Mar 2014 #36
To summarize in one long sentence: NickB79 Mar 2014 #38
I think there is are many channels for that..... Swede Atlanta Mar 2014 #39
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
1. Ugh. I HATE authoritarians!
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:31 PM
Mar 2014
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
2. Ain't gonna happen.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:31 PM
Mar 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024643469

Reliable Sources Anchor Brian Stelter inquired if Tyson thought the media had a responsibility in portraying science correctly, particularly when discussing controversial issues such as climate change. Tyson replied that the media was giving “equal time to the flat-earthers.”

“The media has to sort of come out of this ethos that I think was in principle a good one, but it doesn’t really apply in science,” Tyson said. “The ethos was, whatever story you give, you have to give the opposing view. And then you can be viewed as balanced.”


BAM!

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
11. I like this comment from the original link:
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:40 PM
Mar 2014
Let's give them equal time, only if they edit the bible to include evolution and give evolution equal time in every church in the whole country. Seems to me it should go both ways.


In other words, not a snowball's chance.

lob1

(3,820 posts)
29. I think Pat Robertson's tv show should have an atheist cohost.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:44 PM
Mar 2014

Balance, balance, balance.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
41. His face would get even more wrinkly!
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 06:58 PM
Mar 2014

Love it.

sinkingfeeling

(57,835 posts)
3. Somebody tell them that there's no loner a Fairness Doctrine for TV.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:32 PM
Mar 2014

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
4. My Astrologist is also demanding equal time.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:33 PM
Mar 2014

Chiyo-chichi

(3,976 posts)
5. Neil deGrasse Tyson on episode 2:
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:33 PM
Mar 2014

"Some claim that evolution is just a theory, as if it were merely an opinion. The theory of evolution -- like the theory of gravity -- is a scientific fact. Evolution really happened. Accepting our kinship with all life on Earth is not only solid science. In my view, it’s also a soaring spiritual experience."

http://www.thewire.com/culture/2014/03/neil-degrasse-tyson-addresses-creationists-evolution-fears-cosmos/359223/

Gothmog

(179,869 posts)
30. That was great
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:47 PM
Mar 2014

I remember this segment from the second episode. I expected to hear heads exploding all over Texas

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
6. Their sniveling is both pathetic and hilarious!
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:35 PM
Mar 2014
“Boy, but when you have so many scientists who simply do not accept Darwinian evolution, it seems to me that that might be something to throw in there, you know, the old, ‘some scientists say this, others disagree and think this,’ but that’s not even allowed,” she said.



Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
14. Project Steve
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:44 PM
Mar 2014
Project Steve



Edit to add:

"A Scientific Support for Darwinism received signatures at a rate 697,000 percent higher than the Discovery Institute's petition, A Scientific Dissent from Darwinism"


As CNN would say, "Too close to call."

longship

(40,416 posts)
28. And of course, the Project Steve Song.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:39 PM
Mar 2014

Recorded by Australia Radio National's Science Show host, Robyn Williams. A Monty Pythonesque delite.


Gothmog

(179,869 posts)
31. This is great
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:48 PM
Mar 2014

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
7. Sure, as soon as you start demanding the Fairness Doctrine be reinstated ...
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:35 PM
Mar 2014

... we'll entertain your idea of equal time.

Not before then, assholes.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
8. “Boy, but when you have so many scientists who simply do not accept Darwinian evolution ..."
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:37 PM
Mar 2014

Well, that's because if they don't understand evolution, then they aren't scientists.

maxsolomon

(38,727 posts)
40. They throw in 'Darwinian' to confuse the issue
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 05:11 PM
Mar 2014

yes, some scientists think that Darwin didn't nail it down perfectly in the 1st attempt. You disingenuous cretins.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
42. The nerve of the guy not getting it right the first time!
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 06:59 PM
Mar 2014

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
9. Creationists get plenty of opportunity to air their views.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:37 PM
Mar 2014

This is Tyson's domain. Kids -- and adults -- need a place to actually learn science, since the schools can't teach it anymore thanks to these clowns.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. The earth was not created in 6000 years
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:37 PM
Mar 2014

And you deserve nothing approaching equal time on national media. Now you want to speak of this in church, that is where it belongs.

And many scientists rejecting Evolution....you sure they are scientists?

Spirochete

(5,264 posts)
12. Are they gonna put Tyson on the 700 club?
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:41 PM
Mar 2014

I didn't think so...

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
13. I find this demand as repugnant as teaching creationism in schools.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:42 PM
Mar 2014

If I want religious programming, I'll tune into ABN. I am so fed up with this nonsense of trying to pedal the Bible as a science book, I could spit.

FSogol

(47,623 posts)
15. LOL: They already have equal time in Sunday School. n/t
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:44 PM
Mar 2014
 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
16. Balance doesn't exist in the scientific world
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:45 PM
Mar 2014

The scientific world doesn't operate like FOX news.

Gothmog

(179,869 posts)
32. There is no balance on Fox News
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:49 PM
Mar 2014

Fox News is not fair or balanced

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
33. True but...
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:51 PM
Mar 2014

...try convincing a Republican of that.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
37. Reality has a well know liberal bias.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:53 PM
Mar 2014

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
17. There are about ten religious channels on my menu and
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:50 PM
Mar 2014

pseudo science channels like Discover and TLC. They can have equal time on those channels. No one is stopping them.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
18. Why would a science show feature religion? Oh, I see, because the fundy nutsos
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:54 PM
Mar 2014

want it.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
19. I love the fact that he's so
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 03:59 PM
Mar 2014

effective that it's pissing them off.

I hope the rest of the series is equally intelligent and infuriating to the assholes at Answers in Genesis and The Discovery Institute.

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
20. The fact that this got any coverage at all is your "balance." There ya go... n/t
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:06 PM
Mar 2014

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
21. and Planarism? and Firmamentism?!
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:15 PM
Mar 2014

malaise

(296,105 posts)
22. Uppercase Effing No
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:19 PM
Mar 2014

Let them produce their own freaking program. I won't watch that crap.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
23. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha !!!
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:24 PM
Mar 2014

Hell... give it to them. Would be comedy gold!




 

South_Street

(19 posts)
26. This is the correct answer...
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:34 PM
Mar 2014

Overcharge em for production costs, funnel the excess to STEM education and watch the program flop...

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
24. Let them rail against it in their churches
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:31 PM
Mar 2014

because that's the only place their horse shit belongs.

Turbineguy

(40,074 posts)
25. Not a bad idea!
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:31 PM
Mar 2014

So as a teacher, I can sit down halfway through my lecture and the biggest idiot the school can find can take over the class for balance.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
27. Let them have it ASA they show any scientific proof of their belief.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:34 PM
Mar 2014

KatyaR

(3,639 posts)
34. Because it's about SCIENCE.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:52 PM
Mar 2014


If you don't like it, it doesn't automatically mean you get to make a rebuttal.

Suck it up, and just remember--it you don't believe in science, you DON'T GET HEALTHCARE.

TBF

(36,669 posts)
35. Belief is not science -
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:52 PM
Mar 2014

two different animals.

I respect those with different beliefs and they sure have a big influence on the culture down here in Texas. But that does not make their beliefs science. If they have something to offer that stands up to peer review I am happy to take a look.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
36. Neil is my TV crush… mover over Stephen Colbert! He could make it a teachable moment
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:52 PM
Mar 2014

a very watchable moment.

The camera does love that man.

NickB79

(20,356 posts)
38. To summarize in one long sentence:
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:56 PM
Mar 2014

People who don't believe science, demand equal time on a science program, because scientists are being mean to them for doing science stuff.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
39. I think there is are many channels for that.....
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 05:02 PM
Mar 2014

Go on the 700 Club or any of the local access stations to promote your faith.

I am actually surprised how much the History Channel and NatGeo have programs about the Bible, etc. It is kind of a soft peddling of these religious beliefs.

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