No, Moonbats, it's NOT about YOU

[MannyGoldstein]

So President Obama will be calling for an end to the collection of everyone's phone records.

Some of Those On The Left will attempt to take credit for this. They'll say "Oooh, but the President's continually defended this practice! Only because we whined and complained like spoiled toddlers did he stop this violation of our Constitution! Yay, we win!!!"

No, you didn't win.

Look, people: President Obama never, ever defended spying on every American before it was made public by Comrade Eddie Snowden. Not once.

It was all Moscow Eddie's fault that the President had to defend this practice, that he never, ever wanted to defend in public. Having to defend this plan in public has been very, very troubling for him. So the President will simply be doing what he's always wanted to do: end the program, as far as the public knows.

So Liberals: suck it up. You had nothing whatsoever to do with this and it's not a victory. You are still a miniscule and puny fringe group, incapable of changing anything. Other than, of course, ruining Democratic election chances by your vast numbers staying away from the polls in a humongous, nation-crushing pout.

So you get nothing. No credit. None.

Sweet dreams,

Third-Way Manny

[Electric Monk]

2. Some people don't get your sense of humor, but I rather enjoy it.

In case you missed it, here's a nice recent 'toon from Ted Rall.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024717689

[BainsBane]

12. I get it

That's the problem.

[Number23]

13. For real. What's not to get?

Mr. Scorpio posted a textbook definition of the OP and his crew here http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1187&pid=5878

[sheshe2]

15. Sorry I missed that one.

Thanks for the link!

[MannyGoldstein]

16. Indeed!

[Ohio Joe]

39. It's fuckin hysterical...

Every day we get another bashing of the President with never a single acknowledgement of anything.... Never a single word of support for anything D, only the continued assault... Manny is a hero at the cave and other DU bashing sites.

[Cali_Democrat]

3. Remember, it's not about Snowden. nt

[Electric Monk]

4. Ah, that's old, and privacy has always been overrated, anyway

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024718129

[MannyGoldstein]

5. It's all Snowden's fault.

If it weren't for Snowden, the President wouldn't have to defend this program in public.

Snowden needs to be Chelsea Manninged ASAP!

Regards,

TWM

[grasswire]

27. He is, thanks to Mike Rogers. nt

[sheshe2]

6. Manny, you have a phone call~

[MannyGoldstein]

11. Get Smart is one of my all-time favorite shows!

Buck Henry and Mel Brooks.

Unbelievably good stuff.

[awoke_in_2003]

23. Mel Brooks was part of Get Smart?

Now I know why I liked it.

[Aerows]

7. Obama is a hero of privacy!

n/t

[blue neen]

8. You're shouting.

n/t.

[AverageJoe90]

9. You forgot to add something, Manny.

Something about (literal) "white privilege" or "Obama is Bush Lite" woulda driven your point home.....not that you had one to begin with, anyway.

[WillyT]

10. Which Is It Manny... miniscule, or puny fringe group... And I Demand EVIDENCE !!!

& Rec !!!

[pa28]

14. I would like to extend a huge thank you to Ed Snowden.

We need to look into the fine print of President Obama's proposal but it seems like a win for those who have opposed the legalized surveillance state we currently live in.

No F*ckin way it would have happened without Ed (unfriendly to his neighbors) Snowden and now it's time to recognize he pointed out a wrong in the system. Give the man an immunity deal and bring him home.

[MannyGoldstein]

33. +1 nt

[Hissyspit]

17. I, myself, think that it is great that Obama is doing this, this thing no Republican President would

have ever done, curtailing the unconstitutional behavior of the NSA as revealed by Edward Snowden which Snowden never should have done so that Obama wouldn't have to do this great thing that no Republican President would ever do in response to Snowden doing that thing he never should have done.

[MannyGoldstein]

19. Only by destroying privacy can we save privacy

Truly, it is a chess game of many, many dimensions.

Checkmate, Liberals!

[nashville_brook]

59. spit Coke Zero on keyboard.

[Scootaloo]

26. Thirteen-dimensional chess, as interpreted by M.C. Escher.

I love it.

[grasswire]

28. or mebbe Edward Gorey. nt

[rhett o rick]

18. The NSA was behaving itself until "Eddie" came along. It's all his fault.

By the way, if Booz Allen Hamilton cant do a better job of keeping some nitwit like Eddie from stealing all our data, maybe we need a different contractor.

[MannyGoldstein]

20. The quantum theory of Spy On Everyone

Only while we observe it does it exist.

[rhett o rick]

21. So best we close our eyes.

[MindMover]

22. More importantly the people will not hear what really happened ...

and the people responsible are still on the merry go round ...

Nice one mate ...

[PBass]

24. Third-Way Manny seems to specialize in trolling and "Rage Bait"

Maybe I don't appreciate his type of comedy. I only stop by here occasionally, so maybe that's why I'm not as impressed with Manny as he seems to be with himself.

[DeSwiss]

25. ''Moscow Eddie''

[center] [/center]

The best damned thing I've read all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

K&R

[Blue_Tires]

29. Well, look at the bright side

Now Glenn Greenwald and his circle can devote all their energies to investigating privacy rights abuses in Brazil and Russia!

That hole left by not-yet-written NSA stories on the intercept has to be filled by something...

[Scuba]

30. You just keep getting better and better.

[xchrom]

31. !

[SidDithers]

32. Right, Manny. We all know that it's all about you...nt

Sid

[JoePhilly]

35. Another Manufactured Outrage topic is heading to its death bed.

[JoePhilly]

34. Thanks Putin!!!

[Rex]

36. Of course we had nothing to do with it! This is all Moscow Eddies fault!

Moscow Eddie just gave Russia's dictator the ability to sidestep all our human intel! Liberals only complained about the NSA spying on everyone, we didn't want him to give our secrets away to the enemy! That was just WRONG.

I guess that doesn't make it into your post...might be fair and balanced.

[Orsino]

37. We get credit.

But only for helping to force him to talk hypothetically about possibly ending some aspects of data collection at some indefinite point in the future. In true Democratic style, I propose we celebrate and then forget about it for a few more months.

[whatchamacallit]

38. Lol K&R n/t

[ProSense]

40. Did you see this

opinion on "Comrade Eddie Snowden," aka "Moscow Eddie":

Carter: Snowden's leaks 'good for Americans to know'

Susan Page

NEW YORK -- Former president Jimmy Carter defended the disclosures by fugitive NSA contractor Edward Snowden on Monday, saying revelations that U.S. intelligence agencies were collecting meta-data of Americans' phone calls and e-mails have been "probably constructive in the long run."

<...>

Does he view Snowden, now granted asylum in Russia, as a hero or a traitor?

"There's no doubt that he broke the law and that he would be susceptible, in my opinion, to prosecution if he came back here under the law," he said. "But I think it's good for Americans to know the kinds of things that have been revealed by him and others -- and that is that since 9/11 we've gone too far in intrusion on the privacy that Americans ought to enjoy as a right of citizenship."

Carter cautioned that he didn't have information about whether some of the disclosures "may have hurt our security or individuals that work in security," adding, "If I knew that, then I may feel differently." And he said Snowden shouldn't be immune from prosecution for his actions.

"I think it's inevitable that he should be prosecuted and I think he would be prosecuted" if he returned to the United States, the former president said. "But I don't think he ought to be executed as a traitor or any kind of extreme punishment like that."

- more -

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/03/24/usa-today-capital-download-jimmy-carter-edward-snowden-probably-constructive/6822425/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024718889

[lumpy]

53. I am with Jimmy Carter; If Snowden returns he should be prosecuted under the law but not

executed as a traitor. A few years in a comfortable prison might deter others from thinking they can skirt the law.

[QC]

41. You're a meanie!!!

[CJCRANE]

42. "Moonbats"!? That's an old freeper term.

It's the opposite of a wingnut.

They used to call us that back in the Bush years.

You're really reaching back for the insults.

[uponit7771]

44. +1

[CJCRANE]

45. It's an interesting "tell".

No DUer ever called another DUer a "moonbat".

That term was used by freepers against us, just like "libtard".

In fact I think they were the freepers' retaliation for DUers calling them "wingnuts" and "freeptards".

Both terms of course have gone out of fashion here, especially since the rise of the Tea Party.

[Electric Monk]

46. Conservative Jones and Moonbat McWacky are recurring characters in This Modern World, also

Conservative Jones and Moonbat McWacky

Conservative Jones and Moonbat McWacky are two children used in the strip to satirize conservative talking points. Conservative, who is dressed as a detective, asks Moonbat questions about politics. Moonbat gives reasonable answers, which the Conservative turns into illogical statements about liberals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Modern_World

It's called SATIRE, people...

[bvar22]

49. The desperate grasping at straws...

...is funnier than Manny's OP.

[msanthrope]

48. Isn't it interesting??? Check this one out......

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4339715

That exchange is rather telling, no?

[LordGlenconner]

50. I call RWers moonbats all the time

Though it's usually in the context of "religious moonbat".

I think Manny is a one-trick pony (eye roll inducing shtick is not my thing) and I disagree with him on the President vehemently but he doesn't seem like a DL conservative to me.

[fascisthunter]

54. Geez, If You Keep Implying he's a Right Winger

maybe, just maybe you will be successful in getting him banned.

[CJCRANE]

56. I think some of his posts are deliberately divisive.

It's up to him and other posters whether they agree with me.

I'm just a single DUer. My opinions are my own and no one else's. I don't know any other DUers.

Long-time DUers are aware of the funny names and nicknames we've used over the years and our tradional rivalry with FR and I pointed that out because it's something I noticed.

[MannyGoldstein]

57. You *do* realize that I'm Tagg Romney, don't you?

I outed myself some time ago.

[CJCRANE]

58. But that can't be, because...

*Pulls off CJCRANE mask*

I'M TAGG ROMNEY!!111!!!

[Fumesucker]

55. Eh..

[uponit7771]

43. Yeah Manny, Jimmy Carter sucks too!!! IE leaving mannys strawman argument out of the equation Carter

...is an asshole too

P.S. Carter is not an asshole

[el_bryanto]

47. That's energizing. nt

[Skidmore]

51. Glanced at and trashcanned for

predicability of vapors and reactive bs.

[mike_c]

52. I see what you did there, Third-Way Manny....