First Doctor Visit in Five Years: Why Repubs Want Us Broke or Dead

[Sarah Ibarruri]

Last edited Wed Mar 26, 2014, 04:43 PM - Edit history (2)

First Doctor Visit in Five Years: Why Repubs Want Us Broke or Dead

They'd love to make us work 473 hours for a visit, some blood work, and a single medication. How many House ACA repeal votes now? And how many "replacement plans"? They'll fight with fervor to return us all to that standard, to enrich their owners and themselves while we die, until we fight back. Until we win.

That means fighting to protect and strengthen the law that allowed me to get there today. It may not be perfect but its a hell of a lot better than allowing a group of immoral insurers and politicians to kill us, at the bank and in our bodies, so they can live the high life.

And if those snakes running the insurance company cartels think the ACA was rough for them, they'd better wait to see what we do when we run the scum that work for them out of office. I'll be happy to show them catastrophic. I'll be happier to grin and pull the plug on an ugly industry when we finally achieve single payer. But for now, I'm happy to have coverage and relieved so many no longer have to work hundreds of hours to secure what should be a fundamental human right.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/26/1287424/-First-Doctor-Visit-in-Five-Years-Why-Repubs-Want-Us-Broke-or-Dead?detail=email

[Scuba]

1. Kick.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

4. Thank you. nt

[TBF]

2. K&R nt

[Sarah Ibarruri]

3. Thanks! nt

[Laelth]

5. k&r for exposure. n/t

-Laelth

[Junkdrawer]

6. Point out bad portions (such as high specialty med co-pays)....

and you will be told how much you hate the ACA (always hated the personalized "Obamacare&quot in general.

The holes will be the first thing seen by those who take the plunge and purchase. (OK, second thing seen if this is your first healthcare insurance for a while.) For one, I'd like to dust off the Public Option and see if we can't make a go of it now that Rahm is gone.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

7. Junkdrawer, are you aware that this is the introduction of a program and NOT THE FINAL PRODUCT?

What on earth is your problem? I think it's amazing that it covers uninsurable people. Stop with the negativity. It's getting tiring.

[Junkdrawer]

8. What on earth is my problem? No real competition.

I have said from the beginning that the ACA is a compromise between the corporate players. The whole Bat Shit Crazy Right From Central Casting ruse was (and is) an elaborate sales campaign to sell said corporate compromise. And as I feared in 2009, the BSCRFCC has metastasized.

Rearrange the deck chairs and there will, of course, be a few new winners and a few more losers. Until we near the 2014 mid-terms, we'll hear of the winners. As we get closer to the election, we'll hear about the losers - brought into sharper relief by unrealistic expectations.

We now treat major pieces of legislation like football teams. Too much Rah Rah/Boo Boo and not enough critical analysis. And we wonder why we're such easy marks...

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. I compare it to early social security.

The hurrah teams will move on while policy wonks push for changes. No changes, it will not be as good as some folks think it is. History is my guide on this one. And yes I expect major changes. Public option...not on the early changes though.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

16. Again, this is the 1st version of the 1st try to insure everybody

It is only the 1st version of the 1st try. Why would you treat it like the 50th version?

[Junkdrawer]

17. READ post #8. n/t

[Sarah Ibarruri]

18. I did. I don't understand why you keep repeating something that has no bearing to what I am telling

you.

Let me repeat. This is the FIRST VERSION of the FIRST ATTEMPT at insuring everyone, and providing insurance to uninsurables. With the infestation of Right wing RATS in Congress, to have single-payer is only some lunatic's wet dream, and not a possibility at this time. But since this is the FIRST VERSION of the FIRST ATTEMPT at insuring everyone, and providing insurance to uninsurables, and it is THE CLOSEST WE HAVE EVER COME TO ANYTHING OF THIS NATURE, and I'm all for it.

Those who whine the loudest have done NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING to provide any form of insurance to uninsurables, or to even remotely approximate anything that might begin to be shaped into nationwide coverage for all.

I'm getting pretty damned tired of the BS, of expecting 1 person to be a magician when we have been surrounded by the right wing dregs of humanity, by those who do absolutely nothing but whine. The whiners are so far the only people I've seen that have ZERO ideas. For anything. Not 1 frikkin' idea out of the whiners, be they Repugnicans or not.

[Junkdrawer]

23. If you don't understand, you don't understand...

Refreshingly honest....

[hfojvt]

10. 473 hours?

Does it really cost $3,000 for a single office visit, some blood work and a single medication? I suppose it could - depending on the medication. But probably most people do not need that much medication.

[Junkdrawer]

11. Ever try to add up the "Before Insurance Discount" columns on a bill.

No insurance + modest medical incident = bankruptcy.

Used to be:
Insurance + modest medical incident = covered.

Becoming:
ACA Insurance + modest medical incident = covered AFTER large yearly deductibles.

[hfojvt]

12. I was uninsured for 22 years

from the age of 22 until I was 44. Had one "modest medical incident" that took me to the emergency room. It cost me $800 which the hospital allowed me to pay $50 a month, and with a credit card. It would have cost a mere $300 if not for the unnecessary X-rays. I usually call procedures like that a "walletectomy".

Even my four day hospital stay (for the same problem as the e-room visit) wouldn't have meant bankruptcy (although by that time I had insurance, and fortunately they said nothing about my 'pre-existing condition' although I have had swallowing issues since college.) I was kinda devastated when I got a bill for $13,900, but not because I would go broke. Only because it would wipe out most of my life-savings.

I did some insurance shopping last week. The lowest price was about $314 a month, about 60% of what my employer pays. But twice the deductible and twice the co-pays. A $40 co-pay for an office visit. $2,000 seemed like a huge deductible too.

Oh, and I also had some really modest medical issues that got solved by a pharmacist and a free "ask a nurse" line.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

15. This is the FIRST VERSION of this first attempt EVER at insuring everyone.

If I were you, I'd contact experts out there about this. However, I was between jobs once (before Obamacare went into effect) because I moved location, and I sought Cobra. Even with COBRA my payments were HUGE. And I'm a healthy woman.

Again, THIS IS THE FIRST VERSION OF THIS FIRST ATTEMPT AT INSURING EVERYONE. It has barely been in effect and the whining at the first version of this first attempt, is seriously out of hand.

[Cha]

13. Thank you, Sarah~

[Sarah Ibarruri]

14. You're welcome! nt

[Cha]

19. Kick!

[Nye Bevan]

20. Did someone say "First Doctor"?

[madokie]

21. It's post like this that keeps me coming back to du for more

Nothing like some good old can do spirit to liven me up.
thanks

[Sarah Ibarruri]

22. Thanks, Madokie nt