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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 03:10 PM Mar 2012

Saving yourself for marriage makes contraception unnecessary says lit at GOP conference

War On Women: Anti-Contraception Lit Handed Out At Conservative Conference Headlined By Santorum, Paul Ryan

By Scott Keyes on Mar 26, 2012 at 12:00 pm

MILWAUKEE, Wisconsin — Republicans have gone to great lengths to cast the war on contraception and women’s health as a matter of religious liberty, but literature handed out at a key conservative conference this weekend had an unambiguous message for women: don’t use birth control.

Americans For Prosperity (AFP), a conservative Koch-funded organization, held its Defending The American Dream Summit in Milwaukee on Saturday with a few major headline speakers: Rick Santorum, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI), and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI). All three insisted that the Obama administration’s rule requiring insurance companies to cover contraception actually had nothing to do with contraception, but rather was an attack on religious liberty.

The next room from where they spoke, however, featured a bevy of literature warning women about the supposed dangers of birth control and telling them that “Chastity is the best choice for single people.” One handout explained that contraception is unnecessary because “Saving yourself for your future spouse is guaranteed to prevent pregnancy before marriage.” Another answered the question “Is it safe?” with a simple “No.” The literature on emergency contraception warned that it could cause cancer before telling women simply, “Be good to yourself. Don’t use the morning-after pill.”

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/03/26/451292/anti-contraception-literature-afp-conference/

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Saving yourself for marriage makes contraception unnecessary says lit at GOP conference (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Mar 2012 OP
And after marriage, contraception is not necessary? mainer Mar 2012 #1
I saved myself for marriage, and used contraception after! hedgehog Mar 2012 #6
So, what if you're married and don't want to have kids right now or ever? nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #2
I really believe that such folks as push this kind of nonsense MattBaggins Mar 2012 #10
Of course they would nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #12
and unicorns live under rainbows and poop cotton candy. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #3
I love that! hamsterjill Mar 2012 #17
Yes, GOP, by all means keep telling people they are bad for consensual sex with other adults. stevenleser Mar 2012 #4
Chastity can fail. It's called rape. n/t Ian David Mar 2012 #5
I don't have any statistics, don't think it is necessary to justify use of birth control... Kalidurga Mar 2012 #7
The American Life League's Judie Brown has made it clear that she along Dawson Leery Mar 2012 #8
This is why we live in the 'age of ignorance'. sinkingfeeling Mar 2012 #9
It sounds funny to me that these very same men probably had sex with women before they southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #11
Both men and women with this belief need to be asked this question directly.... cbdo2007 Mar 2012 #13
So it was ok for them but not for others. I see the same hypocrisy with respect high school grade Liberal_in_LA Mar 2012 #16
Well some would probably say it's none of your business what has happened before you and southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #19
You know these Catholics can follow any damned rules of the church they want but they need to jwirr Mar 2012 #14
Before you start painting ALL catholics in this vain stop and take a breath. The MAJORITY southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #20
I am aware of that I think I said "these Catholics who" and did not mean to insult any thinking jwirr Mar 2012 #26
I appreciate that. I do believe I know many "thinking catholic" who are actually liberal thinking. southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #27
I do to - many of them use birth control and are very progressive. One of then just won a Democratic jwirr Mar 2012 #29
Wow that is great news. We need more women in the state houses and congress. southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #30
Which means, I suppose, that after you're married you are expected to start Arkansas Granny Mar 2012 #15
Yes, that is what is expected. hamsterjill Mar 2012 #18
Well that is with ANY RELIGION not just catholics. southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #21
I agree, but I didn't refer to Catholics in my post. hamsterjill Mar 2012 #23
sorry I didn't mean to put it on yours. Oops southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #25
Approximately 20 million women take contraceptives for NON-SEXUAL reasons riderinthestorm Mar 2012 #22
Any in many states, like Arizona, the GOP allow exceptions in those cases. That is their answer stevenleser Mar 2012 #31
And all along I thought "The Handmaid's Tale" maxrandb Mar 2012 #24
Why does anyone need the ReTHUGS to tell them how to run their malaise Mar 2012 #28

mainer

(12,549 posts)
1. And after marriage, contraception is not necessary?
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 03:11 PM
Mar 2012

Or do they want everyone to be like the Duggars?

nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
2. So, what if you're married and don't want to have kids right now or ever?
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 03:13 PM
Mar 2012

Plenty of married couples use birth control.

MattBaggins

(7,948 posts)
10. I really believe that such folks as push this kind of nonsense
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 03:32 PM
Mar 2012

would look at you with utter confusion if you explained that to them.

nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
12. Of course they would
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 03:41 PM
Mar 2012

In their minds, a woman's sole purpose is to cater to her husband and make babies.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
4. Yes, GOP, by all means keep telling people they are bad for consensual sex with other adults.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 03:14 PM
Mar 2012

I'd help pay for the ads if I could.

Morans.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
7. I don't have any statistics, don't think it is necessary to justify use of birth control...
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 03:17 PM
Mar 2012

However, I would guess the biggest consumers of the birth control pill are married women. Most single women aren't having sex all the time so there wouldn't be a need for it everyday. Maybe some are in a committed relationship so they might use it. Those that have occasional sex partners might want to use something like the implant that works for 5 months or the birth control patch. Or condoms. Why go for the expense of pills for occasional sex?

Then of course there are those women who use the pill for other medical reasons.

Dawson Leery

(19,566 posts)
8. The American Life League's Judie Brown has made it clear that she along
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 03:19 PM
Mar 2012

with the Roman Bishops/Cardinals and Fundies want to outlaw contraception in all forms.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
11. It sounds funny to me that these very same men probably had sex with women before they
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 03:38 PM
Mar 2012

decided to finally get married a so called virgin. These very same man will talk a woman into the bedroom telling her he loves her until he gets what he wants. They he'll turn her aside because she gave into him. They fail to see they a ho bags themselves.

You see the so called christain men think it's ok for them to play around but not women.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
13. Both men and women with this belief need to be asked this question directly....
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 03:46 PM
Mar 2012

did you have sex before marriage??

It's the smoking gun that no one wants to ask. I do when I get into friendly arguments about this with my fam and friends and the question always prompts the response "Yeah, but it was wrong and if I could go back....."

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
16. So it was ok for them but not for others. I see the same hypocrisy with respect high school grade
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 04:19 PM
Mar 2012

high school graduation type initiatives. Everyone's all for holding back drivers licenses, all or nothing hs exit exams, allowing potential employers to have access to hs grades, etc. but would not have wanted it back when they were in hs.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
19. Well some would probably say it's none of your business what has happened before you and
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 06:24 PM
Mar 2012

I met. That would be true. However, if I were asked that question I can honestly say I didn't have sex before I got married and that would be true. But I wonder if the guy would believe me? On the other hand I didn't date much and the first thing I always told a guy up front if you think going to a movie or dinner is going to get you to 3d base you better understand it ain't going to happen, period. That usually works for me. It weeds out the guys who are just looking to have fun at the woman's expense. I was able to find the right guy who shared the same morals I did. We have been married 32 yrs. However, I don't think a gentleman or a lady should ask about past relationships unless they bring it up first. If the 2 decide they want to have relations then the STD questions should be discussed.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
14. You know these Catholics can follow any damned rules of the church they want but they need to
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 03:50 PM
Mar 2012

stop forcing their religion on the rest of us. This also overlooks the use of contraceptives for other uses than birth control.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
20. Before you start painting ALL catholics in this vain stop and take a breath. The MAJORITY
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 06:27 PM
Mar 2012

of catholics believe in contraceptives. We always have and always will. Holy ricky to me isn't a catholic he is more of a evangelical. The majority of catholics are very tolerant of all the social issues. We don't agree with the pope on many issues. I have never listened to what the pope has said.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
26. I am aware of that I think I said "these Catholics who" and did not mean to insult any thinking
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:14 PM
Mar 2012

Catholic members.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
27. I appreciate that. I do believe I know many "thinking catholic" who are actually liberal thinking.
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:52 AM
Mar 2012

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
29. I do to - many of them use birth control and are very progressive. One of then just won a Democratic
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 12:47 PM
Mar 2012

election in Iowa. Very proud of her.

Arkansas Granny

(32,265 posts)
15. Which means, I suppose, that after you're married you are expected to start
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 03:54 PM
Mar 2012

shelling those babies out every year or so.

hamsterjill

(17,556 posts)
18. Yes, that is what is expected.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 04:31 PM
Mar 2012

Keep those women barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen! That way they won't have time to make it to the voting booth.

Preach submission and male dominance, and sooner or later, the women who believe the preaching won't even want to go to the voting booth.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
22. Approximately 20 million women take contraceptives for NON-SEXUAL reasons
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 06:40 PM
Mar 2012

How many times must this be repeated??!! Contraceptives are helpful for many reasons, not all of them revolve around sex!

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
31. Any in many states, like Arizona, the GOP allow exceptions in those cases. That is their answer
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 12:57 PM
Mar 2012

to that issue, regressive as it is.

malaise

(295,760 posts)
28. Why does anyone need the ReTHUGS to tell them how to run their
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 10:05 AM
Mar 2012

fugging lives.

They believe in small government the way I believe in religion

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