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Behind the Aegis

(53,999 posts)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 01:50 AM Apr 2014

Putin Ally Accused Of Pushing Jews-Killed-Jesus Theme

A St. Petersburg city councilman from Russia’s ruling party made statements suggesting that Jews killed Jesus.

Vitaly Milonov made the statements last month during a meeting of the St. Petersburg City Council, where he serves as a lawmaker for President Vladimir Putin’s United Russia party, the svodka.net news website reported this week.

“They vilify any saint, it is in their tradition of 2,000 years, beginning with the appeals to crucify the Savior, ending with accusations of anti-Semitism against St. John of Kronstadt,” Milonov said during a March 19 speech before the city’s legislative council, according to the report.

Milonov was advocating a bill that proposes to declare June 14 a municipal holiday in honor of John of Kronstadt, a 19th century leader of the Orthodox Russian Church. His legacy remains controversial because of his membership in the Black Hundred, an ultranationalist and declaredly anti-Semitic movement that supported pogroms against Jews.

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Milonov is the same politician who has proposed that Russia outlaw the “promotion” of homosexuality, grant full citizenship to embryos and forcing women who have not given birth by the age of 23 to join the army.

He argues, “I don’t want children to get the wrong idea that traditional and non-traditional forms of partnerships are equal – they are not equal…. But a video clip by say, Madonna, in which she is kissing another woman that can be seen by children is gay propaganda. Children like to copy their role models.”

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What a pig (apologies to pigs)!

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Putin Ally Accused Of Pushing Jews-Killed-Jesus Theme (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Apr 2014 OP
What about their apologists? William769 Apr 2014 #1
So what's his agenda? Hate? Like Putin on Gay People? Cha Apr 2014 #2
Horrendous LeftishBrit Apr 2014 #3
What is old is new again nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #4
I grew up hearing that ALL the time. Bonobo Apr 2014 #5
Does this guy have any redeeming qualities?! Rhiannon12866 Apr 2014 #6
Sure. He's not the POTUS. Yet... freshwest Apr 2014 #9
I hear they can see each other's houses! Behind the Aegis Apr 2014 #14
Fallon's promoting Sarah's newest show? UGH. n/t freshwest Apr 2014 #17
I believe Jesus ... GeorgeGist Apr 2014 #7
It has to be Ukrainian right wing nazi fascist davidpdx Apr 2014 #8
Once fascists start persecuting one group, they keep moving on to others LuvNewcastle Apr 2014 #10
...then no one is left to speak out. Behind the Aegis Apr 2014 #15
Alright, so now we've got Jews, gays, and Chechens. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #11
He is an idiot for sure seveneyes Apr 2014 #12
What gymnastics? They belong to the same party. sufrommich Apr 2014 #13
Once again, they forget Jesus was a Jew... It's not about JC. It's just anti-Semiticism, again. freshwest Apr 2014 #16
Guilt by association Larry the Cable Dude Apr 2014 #18
Let's pretend it is proven? Behind the Aegis Apr 2014 #19
Bigotry pure and simple. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #20
Yup. An oldie but a goodie. Behind the Aegis Apr 2014 #22
Yes it is old and tired! hrmjustin Apr 2014 #24
Apparently Moscow is getting accolades from Pat Robertson. Behind the Aegis Apr 2014 #25
K & R nt okaawhatever Apr 2014 #21
*facepalm* sakabatou Apr 2014 #23

LeftishBrit

(41,212 posts)
3. Horrendous
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:15 AM
Apr 2014

More good old anti-Semitism, homophobia, misogyny, and general all-roung fascism.

And 'give full citizenship rights to embryos' - he sounds like an invented caricature of a religious rightie, except that he is real.

Behind the Aegis

(53,999 posts)
14. I hear they can see each other's houses!
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:15 PM
Apr 2014

Last edited Thu Apr 3, 2014, 05:17 PM - Edit history (1)

I can see a conflict though, if Putin decides to ride a wolf. He might have to dodge Palin's helicopter hunting crews.

ETA:

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
8. It has to be Ukrainian right wing nazi fascist
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 06:49 AM
Apr 2014

Because they are the root of all evil. Russia is just goddamn special.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
12. He is an idiot for sure
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 07:39 AM
Apr 2014

Other than his nonsensical and hateful ramblings, what stands out the most are the gymnastics performed to make connections to Putin. Linked members of branched subsets of associations of associations.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
13. What gymnastics? They belong to the same party.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:02 AM
Apr 2014

Putin signed Milonovs anti gay rants into law.If Putin has a problem with Milonov,he's got a strange way of showing it.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
16. Once again, they forget Jesus was a Jew... It's not about JC. It's just anti-Semiticism, again.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 06:26 PM
Apr 2014

Same verse from years ago but with media and televangelism the old message now infects others.

The paradox is that in their eyes, the 'Jews' really are the 'Chosen' by virtue of the abuse heaped on them for millenia, 'chosen' by bigots of all kinds to be used as the 'Eternal Other.'

The latest by Pat Robertson and the constant refrain by Birchers like the Paul and Jones are just two sides of a malignant populist meme.

Jews were not allowed in all trades, and became specialists to survive, prosper and escape their persecutors for many centuries.

Their 'strange' religion and the success of some makes them a convenient whipping post.

This is proof of the destruction of human intelligence and reasoning.

 
18. Guilt by association
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 07:54 PM
Apr 2014

An accusation has been made (let's pretend it's proven) against his ally. lets turn the accused "ally" into Putin himself.

Behind the Aegis

(53,999 posts)
19. Let's pretend it is proven?
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:50 PM
Apr 2014

Are you claiming the information in the article is false and the "accused" is actually innocent? No one, except you, has turned this person into Putin.

sakabatou

(42,180 posts)
23. *facepalm*
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 03:00 AM
Apr 2014

Yeah, blame the Jews for killing Jesus. But who put him on the cross? The Romans. Who stabbed him in the side? The Romans.

So why blame the Jews? Oh, because the Bible (was it Paul?) did.

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