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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:19 PM Apr 2014

Congressman Upset His $174,000 Annual Salary Not Enough To Live 'Decently' In D.C.

In an interview published Thursday in Roll Call, Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.) lamented that his $174,000 annual salary was not enough to live "decently" in Washington, D.C.

"I think the American people should know that the members of Congress are underpaid," Moran said. "I understand that it’s widely felt that they underperform, but the fact is that this is the board of directors for the largest economic entity in the world."

The remarks came as the House begins markup on a bill to fund all legislators' salaries. Moran is planning to introduce an amendment that would offer lawmakers a per diem, USA Today reports.

Moran stated that some members actually sleep in their offices while in session. But since his district is just across the river in northern Virginia, he doesn't have to maintain two homes (or a small apartment) like other members, as the Washington Post notes.

“Our pay has been frozen for three years and we’re planning on freezing it a fourth year," Moran told Roll Call. "A lot of members can’t even afford to live decently in Washington."

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/congress-underpaid-2014-4

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Congressman Upset His $174,000 Annual Salary Not Enough To Live 'Decently' In D.C. (Original Post) FarCenter Apr 2014 OP
Oh Lord! hrmjustin Apr 2014 #1
And this guy's a Democrat?? edbermac Apr 2014 #2
They should be paid $7.25 an hour while in session and learn to live like lots of folks. Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #3
Phoenix City Manager apparently didn't think $278k was enough so they raised him to 315. lonestarnot Apr 2014 #4
He'll be missed, but it's obvious he needs to get different employment. . . Journeyman Apr 2014 #5
"Moran announced on 1/15/2014 that he would retire from Congress at the end of his current term" FarCenter Apr 2014 #7
bad optics to say the least...he best recant that and apologize sincerely quickly nt steve2470 Apr 2014 #6
His problem, I suspect, is that he's tryig to keep up with most of the other congressmen napi21 Apr 2014 #8
Their salaries should be directly tied to the minimum wage Matariki Apr 2014 #9
There are more of them in need? theaocp Apr 2014 #10
Congressman, Do you want some cheese to go with that potent wine? rustydog Apr 2014 #11
Call the waaahmbulance! Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2014 #12
I love watching Oprah, and I can understand her just fine without subtitles. penultimate Apr 2014 #14
They put up Surtitles at the opera for English-language opera too. Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2014 #15
English subtitles? They oughtta do that for the Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #32
DUzy!! Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2014 #39
It is ridiculous how little they make. They should create a paypal account so that citizens penultimate Apr 2014 #13
He's right. You know it, but you don't want to admit it. jmowreader Apr 2014 #16
They cash in when they leave office. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #26
All the more reason to pay them well and restrict corporate collusion as a condition think Apr 2014 #34
And you can see where there's a problem with that. jmowreader Apr 2014 #35
Vote this fool out. bigwillq Apr 2014 #17
I live in the DC Metro area justiceischeap Apr 2014 #18
And where is your other home? jberryhill Apr 2014 #30
Boo hoo. Some sleep in their offices. Vinca Apr 2014 #19
What is the average salary for residents of Washington DC, who are not members of Congress? LeftishBrit Apr 2014 #20
Time was 4-6 Congressmen got together to rent a small apartment in DC. baldguy Apr 2014 #21
F* this freeloading mo'fo madokie Apr 2014 #22
Cry me a river, a$$hole. 99Forever Apr 2014 #23
Easy fix Daninmo Apr 2014 #24
Each state should buy condos in DC for their representatives. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #25
This guy is a moran! Uben Apr 2014 #27
Welcome to the real world Congressman. That is what is happening to the rest of us in the 99% jwirr Apr 2014 #28
He's already said when his term is over he's done. BKH70041 Apr 2014 #29
No, you are not a member of the board of directors. You are a public servent notadmblnd Apr 2014 #31
Corporations will continue to buy politicians because we won't pay them more to work for US think Apr 2014 #33
If his salary is not enough to live decently abelenkpe Apr 2014 #36
I live with someone qazplm Apr 2014 #37
I don't know the cost of living back there. RandySF Apr 2014 #38
 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
4. Phoenix City Manager apparently didn't think $278k was enough so they raised him to 315.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:27 PM
Apr 2014

Cut other peoples' crap, but he got his.

Journeyman

(15,443 posts)
5. He'll be missed, but it's obvious he needs to get different employment. . .
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:29 PM
Apr 2014

I don't see what his gripe is. He knew the wages when he applied for the job. Now that it's proved to be inadequate for his needs, he must move on.

And I'd rather not listen to the whining. Just submit your resignation, Moran, and give your support to the better person who should replace you. No brainer (though even this simple task, he seems inadequate to the task).

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
7. "Moran announced on 1/15/2014 that he would retire from Congress at the end of his current term"
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:45 PM
Apr 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Moran

He can speak freely now and tell us what all the other Congresspeople are thinking.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
8. His problem, I suspect, is that he's tryig to keep up with most of the other congressmen
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:49 PM
Apr 2014

who are already very rich! I know lots of congressmen sleep in their offices, which is fine by me. The wealthy ones can afford to pay a mtg. on their house in their home state, PLUS rent an apartment in DC which is very expensive.

I happen to like Jim Moran, but he need to get a grip on reality. IF you can't afford to live where your job is, move to somewhere that you can afford.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
9. Their salaries should be directly tied to the minimum wage
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:54 PM
Apr 2014

say like twelve times max or something like that.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
12. Call the waaahmbulance!
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 12:03 AM
Apr 2014

And I buy cheap tickets to the opera in the buzzard roost. I hear and see the same opera as the people in the good seats. So there.

My editorial comment:
NOTE: Do not be afraid to go to the opera, because they put the words up IN ENGLISH up above the stage, so you know what's going on.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
15. They put up Surtitles at the opera for English-language opera too.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 12:18 AM
Apr 2014

When my child was little, I took her to see Hansel and Gretel in English at the opera. They did it for a Christmas show. She was fascinated.


 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
39. DUzy!!
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 03:27 PM
Apr 2014

Good idea!
I don't listen to people who sing with clothespins on their noses and commit pedal steel guitar abuse.

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
13. It is ridiculous how little they make. They should create a paypal account so that citizens
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 12:14 AM
Apr 2014

can donate money to help those poor people in congress elevate themselves out of poverty. I'd be willing to skip a week of eating so that I can donate a $100/mo to help them out. Imagine how much of a difference we could make for them if we all donates $100/mo to give them the helping hand they need.

jmowreader

(53,165 posts)
16. He's right. You know it, but you don't want to admit it.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 12:52 AM
Apr 2014

The kinds of people we need as our elected representatives can make more than $174,000 per year fairly easily, and they can't afford (or don't want to) take a pay cut. I know elected service is an honor, but you can't stick "honor" in an envelope and send it to a mortgage company...at least if you want to keep the house.

If you pay Walmart-store-manager money you are going to get Walmart-store-manager-caliber people. Simple as that. Walmart store managers are perfectly nice people, but there's a reason they run a store instead of a corporation. The end result is you get three classes of congressmen: very rich people, who go to Washington to legislate their tax bills out of existence; ideologues, who figure working for peanuts for a couple of years would be fine if it means they can get rid of all the social programs they don't like; and guys auditioning for K Street.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
26. They cash in when they leave office.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 10:50 AM
Apr 2014

They become lobbyists or corporate board members and turn that perceived knowledge into big money.

It's like a really selective college that pays you to attend.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
34. All the more reason to pay them well and restrict corporate collusion as a condition
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 11:39 AM
Apr 2014

Unless the cycle you mention is broken Americans will never get fair representation by our politicians.

Pay them well and make it illegal for them to become corporate lobbyists and board members for 5 years after leaving service. Hell pay them for 5 years after serving. In the long run it would extremely cheap in comparison to what the corporations are costing us in tax breaks, no bid contracts, etc etc....

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
17. Vote this fool out.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 12:57 AM
Apr 2014

Folks are starving to death, and this jackass is upset because his $174K salary is not enough. Please.

Live on my salary. Then we can talk about unfreezing your pay.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
18. I live in the DC Metro area
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 04:57 AM
Apr 2014

and make much less than that and I'm just fine. Granted I need two roommates for that to be the case but you do what needs to be done.

Vinca

(53,933 posts)
19. Boo hoo. Some sleep in their offices.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 05:51 AM
Apr 2014

Beats a cardboard box under a bridge somewhere. Love a guy making 6 figures crying poor mouth.

LeftishBrit

(41,453 posts)
20. What is the average salary for residents of Washington DC, who are not members of Congress?
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 07:27 AM
Apr 2014

Much lower, I suspect.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
21. Time was 4-6 Congressmen got together to rent a small apartment in DC.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 09:46 AM
Apr 2014

Maybe the Moran should start looking for roommates.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
22. F* this freeloading mo'fo
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 09:52 AM
Apr 2014

We have a lot of good people who are doing more for our country who can't even afford a place to sleep nor 3 squares a day. fuck him and the lies he rode in on.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
23. Cry me a river, a$$hole.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 09:54 AM
Apr 2014

I make $13hr x 35 hours a week. (my employer was granted a year extension on the requirement to provide health insurance to ALL employees) I take home about $720 bi-weekly. I get ZERO benefits. My premium for SHIT "healthcare insurance" that pays NOTHING until I reach a $6000 deductible (which, BTW, I am required by the law YOU passed) is $244 and change a month.

My freakin' heart bleeds for your 1% ass.

Daninmo

(119 posts)
24. Easy fix
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 10:39 AM
Apr 2014

There are plenty of military bases nearby. Build another barracks. Basically an Officers quarters. Issue each of them a room, if they want it. They can live on base, when not back home in their districts.

They will be safe and protected, they can even get access to the chow hall on base.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
25. Each state should buy condos in DC for their representatives.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 10:48 AM
Apr 2014

Then cut the salaries in half.

Living in public housing would do them good.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
28. Welcome to the real world Congressman. That is what is happening to the rest of us in the 99%
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 10:52 AM
Apr 2014

BKH70041

(961 posts)
29. He's already said when his term is over he's done.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 10:54 AM
Apr 2014

You can say all sorts of shit when you're not going to be on the ballot next time.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
31. No, you are not a member of the board of directors. You are a public servent
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 11:01 AM
Apr 2014

and if you want to live like you are a board member of some huge corporation, I suggest you get off the government dole and get a real job!

Flipping welfare queen isn't happy with the 174k he'spaid for doing next to nothing. Cry me a freaking river why don't ya?

 

think

(11,641 posts)
33. Corporations will continue to buy politicians because we won't pay them more to work for US
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 11:31 AM
Apr 2014

So the folks in Washington that oversee trillions in spending every year of our money are beholden to their bosses. The corporations.

It is pretty obvious that if WE don't pay for good representation the corporations are more than happy to step in and pay the tab as long as they get represented well.

Yes, politicians should be altruistic and work strictly out of loyalty and patriotism rather than the promise of great pay check but look around. The majority don't.





abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
36. If his salary is not enough to live decently
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 11:56 AM
Apr 2014

then he should recognized that vast majority of his constituents like all workers across our country are also in desperate need of a raise.

qazplm

(3,626 posts)
37. I live with someone
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 12:22 PM
Apr 2014

in N. Va., and combined we make about that much money, and we both save money every month without really trying.

Granted, I'm a boring person who enjoys staying at home lol but I save about 3-4K a month on my own....so I'd have to spend that much a month over my 3K rent, and food, and gas, and whatnot before I even started to dip into any savings.

I agree, if you have a spouse and a couple of kids, and you are the sole provider, this is an expensive area, and 174K isn't rich in this area, but it most certainly is way beyond enough to live "decently."

RandySF

(83,933 posts)
38. I don't know the cost of living back there.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 02:50 PM
Apr 2014

But I know he is divorced with grown kids, so he should manage ok. But as high as one's salary may sound in comparison to others, don't automatically assume it's the high life. I am supporting my wife and kid on 65k in San Francisco before taxes and right now it's pretty tight.

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