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Criminals need for cash motivates much predatory street crime. A new paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research asks whether this might work in reverse: if cash motivates crime, could the absence of cash reduce crime? The answer seems to be yes.
The paper looks at county-level crime data in Missouri from 1990 to 2011, a period when crime dropped markedly all over the rich world. During this time Missouri, like the rest of America, changed the way it delivered its welfare and food-stamp benefits. Instead of paper cheques states now use a debit-card system known as Electronic Benefit Transfer (EBT). Missouri introduced EBT cards in eight phases over 12 months. This gradual shift allowed the authors to analyse not just differences in crime rates before and after the introduction of EBT, but also how those differences compared with changes during the same period in counties that had not implemented it.
They found that electronic payments led to a drop of 9.8% in the overall crime rate and caused the rates of burglary, assault and larceny to fall by 7.9%, 12.5% and 9.6%, respectively. The introduction of EBT was also associated with a lower number of arrests, an indication that the crime rates decline did not stem from more aggressive policing. EBTs effects on non-property-related crimes such as drug offences, rape and prostitution were statistically insignificant. The findings suggest, according to Volkan Topalli, one of the authors, that for people in densely populated urban neighbourhoods, the less cash they have and the more their transactions are digitised, the less attractive criminal targets they make.
http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21600149-cashless-economy-leads-safer-society-less-coin-purloin?zid=317&ah=8a47fc455a44945580198768fad0fa41
House of Roberts
(5,186 posts)They will get an even bigger cut of the economy than they have now.
Also, it makes it possible for taxes to be applied to all sales, even used goods sold by individuals.
How can you have a yard sale without cash?
Lucky Luciano
(11,261 posts)I often have only $40 on me until I run out. I use my CC as much as possible to rack up the points. The $40 lasts the week easily too - usually a daily Starbucks latte is my main cash transaction - though I could put that on the card too actually.
Yard sales can still be cash.
Warpy
(111,359 posts)Look at the mess at Target and other big retailers.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)A Disney security manager told me about a year ago at a loss prevention event that in 1995 the average man only carried about $150 in cash and valuables and most of that being his watch. Women were a little higher. He then said contemplate that if you rob a tourist on Harbor Boulevard any given night what they're going to have in the possession. Smart Phones, digital cameras, tablets, designer sunglasses or handbags. You as a street hoodlum aren't likely to find a thick moneyclip on any of your victims, but you can steal thousands worth of accessories and electronics without much effort.
Anywhere in America you as a hoodlum can probably assume that robbing a college aged kid will at least yield a smartphone of some value.
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)How many muggers get caught and are let off with little to no consequence? Crimes involving victims are not prosecuted severely enough to deter these criminal bastards from harming others. Make a first offense mugging 10 years minimum and multiply times 5 for each repeat offense. For each POS incarcerated, release a prisoner for a non-victim crime.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)is now largely unpunished in most urban areas.
delta17
(283 posts)I am no expert on this, but I thought the provider would just cut off the service if it is stolen. Then it is just an MP3 player. Also, they are cheaply made and updated pretty often. I don't think they have much street value, but I could be wrong.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)What's smaller than a slice of bread, worth hundreds of dollars, and carried by almost anyone? If you guessed "smartphone," you'd be right on the money. In fact, it's the relationship between money and smartphones that is causing the problem.
As we all know, smartphones are small, portable, jewel-like, and quite expensive. They are extremely portable and easily resold. These characteristics make them ideal targets for criminals, and those who carry smartphones ideal targets for robbers.
iPhones, for example, have become a form of hard currency. As BusinessWeek reports, an iPhone bought here in the US for $815 (with tax) is worth about $1,130 in Italy. That's a $315 profit on a legitimate purchase. Using numbers from the BusinessWeek story, unlocked iPhone 5S devices cost about $700 on average in the US and can be resold for $971 (in France) to $1,196 (in Brazil).
DJ13
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(19,768 posts)It will start with a card and then certainly quickly progress to implants of read/write data-chips.
Almost certain to end in some twisted totalitarian, authoritarian, 1984-ish nightmare.
No thanks.
cprise
(8,445 posts)No doubt this person feels extremely secure against white collar criminals; he may even be one, and so not face any strict punishment.
I mistakenly thought The Economist was a little smarter than WSJ.
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Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Not all commerce should be the banks and the government's (redundancy alert) business.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Leaving the governments with no monetary policy options is the same problem the gold standard has.
TampaAnimusVortex
(785 posts)There would be no need for a government to have a monetary policy, as it's primarily used in protective measures against other countries monetary policies. Read the book "Currency wars". You'll see the dominant actions being taken right now with all this quantitative easing is just that.
Besides, removing the potential for abuse in monetary policy is more than worth it. I think anyone that has watched over the last few years has seen how the banksters has corrupted both parties now and we will see that manifested forever after as bailouts followed shortly thereafter with bonuses.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I have; it's very simplistic. There is an endogenous money supply need; oddly enough, Keynes, Galbraith, and Friedman all talk about that very clearly.
Recursion
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(19,768 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)who pay for everything with a debit card don't really pay attention to how much they are really spending. They truly live from paycheck to paycheck, even when they make a pretty decent wage.
Me? I take a sum of money out of the bank every Monday. Around 2/3 of that money gets put into envelopes labelled: Gas, Clothing, Health & Well being, Entertainment, and Miscellaneous. Most of those labels are pretty obvious. Health & Well Being covers things like my make up, perfume, lotions, and other such girly things.
The rest of the money is my grocery and walking around money. When the cash runs out, that's it. I'm done for the week. When I need new clothes or want to go to a movie, I take cash out of the appropriate envelope and shop or watch. I have found that this way I can keep good control over my expenditures. I am never really carrying around that much cash at any time, although I do usually have cash on me. I do also have credit cards, which I use for larger expenditures. I need new tires. Those will go on the credit card. When I stay in a hotel, I use a credit card.
My concern is that when people stop using cash, they stop understanding how much they are really spending.
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)Because money for the debit card comes out of my checking account, I have to be careful not to have overdrafts.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)I would venture to say that people using debit cards are less likely to overspend.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)that may well be true. But, even if they're paying good close attention to how much they're spending, I see too many simply spending down to very close to zero dollars in their checking account. Never a good idea.
About twenty-five years ago I got a checking account for free so long as I maintained a $400 dollar balance at all times. So I treated that balance as if it were zero, which meant I always had money there in case of some sort of dire emergency.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)And why the black economy is a cash economy.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)The Middle Class is not being destroyed by street muggings.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)I made those risky cash purchases at Target between black Friday and New Years. Meanwhile all of those "safe" debit and credit card customers were SO well protected.
former9thward
(32,082 posts)No one lost anything. Of course that never made the front pages because it was not sensational.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)If your CC info is stolen, in most cases you get a new card and the charges removed. It takes a few days..at most.
If you have cash stolen, how long does it take to recover that money...if you even can?
JCMach1
(27,574 posts)Because the banks are such a powerful lobby in the US, we have resisted an easy transition to such an economy...
The service enables its users to:
Deposit and withdraw money
Transfer money to other users and non-users
Pay bills
Purchase airtime[14][15]
Transfer money between the service and a bank account (in some markets) [16]
The user interface technology of M-Pesa differs between Safaricom of Kenya and Vodacom of Tanzania, although the underlying platform is the same. While Safaricom uses SIM toolkit (STK) to provide handset menus for accessing the service, Vodacom relies mostly on USSD to provide users with menus, but also supports STK.[17] ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-Pesa
another link: http://agi.ac.za/sites/agi.ac.za/files/standpoints_is_the_success_of_m-pesa_empowering_kenyan_rural_women_.pdf
Would be nice to see the US Post Office work in conjunction with mobile providers to power this service in America... Cut regular banks out entirely!!!
diabeticman
(3,121 posts)banks. Her family always had cash at the house (not that it was much) but My wife does not trust banks. We both have credit union accounts but we always get the majority of the money out and pay bills with cash where she get a receipt and know the bill was paid or keep over zealous companies taking more out of our account than we expect.
Recently her friend had an idea to get satellite TV set up. She signed up for the 2 year deal thing but when the installation she found out it could not be installed due to where some trees and power lines where growing. The company claimed the contract would be voided due to the inability to set up the sat alie but 4 months later her account was debit $500.00 by the company and she is fighting them for the money back.
JCMach1
(27,574 posts)like a check... no auto deductions, but very easy for payments.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)pipi_k
(21,020 posts)going cashless has been great for me in terms of not having to handle money that someone else has touched minutes/seconds after wiping his nose or not washing his hands after using the restroom.
Went from having at least two head colds (often with Bronchitis) per year to one head cold since 2006.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)I volunteer to start collecting it.
Can I count on you giving me yours so I can properly dispose of it?
No charge of course.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)I use plastic for all of my purchases.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)The benefits of using a credit/debit card far outweigh the benefits of cash (for me).
-Easy to keep track of how much money I have and how much I spend
-More secure. If my card is stolen, I simply cancel it and get a new one. And any fraudulent charges can simply be removed.
-Losing or damaging my card doesn't mean I lose any money.
-I can send money to people or make payments online. Can't do that with cash.