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Unknown Beatle

(2,691 posts)
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:11 AM Apr 2014

U.S.'s Amazing New 'Don't Text and Drive' Ad Will Leave You Shaking

Intense PSA reminds you to #justdrive

The most memorable safe-driving PSAs tend to be made overseas—in Britain, Mexico, Australia. But the U.S. adds a powerful new entry to the mix with this brutal spot from The Tombras Group for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

Ushering in National Distracted Driving Awareness Month, the spot is so riveting, you should stop reading now and watch it, then share it with your friends and family. It's OK, we'll wait.

Welcome back.

Aimed at teens, it's incredibly straightforward, simulating an everyday scene cut short by a distracted driver. The theme is "U drive. U text. U pay," with the hashtag #justdrive. The police officer's dialogue is perhaps a bit confusing—he almost doesn't need to be there.

According to the new site distraction.gov, more than 70 percent of teens and young adults have sent or read a text while driving. The campign aims to get teen drivers to take a pledge to refrain from texting and driving, as well as give them the tools to help raise awareness.

Warning: This video is violent and may be upsetting.



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U.S.'s Amazing New 'Don't Text and Drive' Ad Will Leave You Shaking (Original Post) Unknown Beatle Apr 2014 OP
We need more ads like that. NutmegYankee Apr 2014 #1
Every day when I drive to work, I see at least one person texting and driving, bulloney Apr 2014 #2
I barely made it through an intersection yesterday- callous taoboy Apr 2014 #3
Several months ago I was rear ended by a girl texting while driving. argyl Apr 2014 #4
I drove 18 wheelers all my life. Looking down I've seen it all, B Calm Apr 2014 #5
I saw an idiot riding his bicycle and texting once. hobbit709 Apr 2014 #6
They do that all the time here in Japan Art_from_Ark Apr 2014 #127
We need to ban texting, period customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #7
Good luck with that. Why not just ban cellphones altogether while you're at it? morningfog Apr 2014 #10
Actually there is a way to do it nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #47
My GPS is through my phone and I hear it through my Bluetooth headset. WillowTree Apr 2014 #93
The phone can have SMS disabled and phone disabled nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #95
I just love it when people respond to my posts....... WillowTree Apr 2014 #99
Funny, I read your post and I responded to your post, nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #100
You can actually talk on a cellphone customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #58
Yes, we should base all our laws on the one percent that are idiots. CBGLuthier Apr 2014 #13
"at least one percent of those operating cars are incompetent"? I'd say more like at least 25%. Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2014 #42
You make a good point customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #59
TOO MUCH MONEY to be made...TRUST ME. HUbby works for the BIGGEST Ecumenist Apr 2014 #76
And they don't make scads of money customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #79
Customer. you know that you charged MUCH MORE for DATA than talk Ecumenist Apr 2014 #85
I wouldn't know customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #87
Customer, we get a concession and we pretty much have free service BUT guess what.. Ecumenist Apr 2014 #89
Thank you customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #108
SMS is old school, we are moving forward with IM&P on a new product snooper2 Apr 2014 #91
Sounds invasive customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #109
What the hell you talking about, I'm GenX baby! snooper2 Apr 2014 #116
Well, then you should know customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #119
It depends on the plan malokvale77 Apr 2014 #126
THEN, MALOKVALE, if you only have 200MB DATA.... Ecumenist Apr 2014 #128
I genuinely can't tell if you're joking, or just insane. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #96
Why do you think I'm joking? customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #106
Because it's such an absurd (and illiberal) suggestion. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #111
The video in the OP customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #114
It's not one percent Warpy Apr 2014 #101
Lol, and take those darn new fangled radios out of cars too they distract people!!! Nt Logical Apr 2014 #20
Why do you think customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #60
The obliviots are the ones who use a post-hoc-ergo-prompter-hoc fallacy to validate their low-grade LanternWaste Apr 2014 #29
And the pretentious customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #61
Here is where SMS will be invaluable nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #97
True customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #105
I frankly don't think it is that addictive nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #110
We should ban people too! IronLionZion Apr 2014 #31
How about if we just pipi_k Apr 2014 #32
You'll pry my thumbs from my cold, dead hands kcr Apr 2014 #37
Or just require that the smartphone disable all ..... oldhippie Apr 2014 #33
There could be a manual override with a password. Kablooie Apr 2014 #39
You don't know many teenagers/twenty-somethings, do you? WillowTree Apr 2014 #94
I sure do. Kablooie Apr 2014 #104
Remove the vanity mirrors now! L0oniX Apr 2014 #35
Having them on the driver's side customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #62
With gps phones could sense when they are moving. Kablooie Apr 2014 #38
The technology to do this nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #48
The ultimate would be for the phone to sense ... Kablooie Apr 2014 #52
Very true, but what do you do with british cars? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #65
My phone already knows when I am driving Egnever Apr 2014 #129
What about the passengers Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #40
see my reply to Nadin above. Kablooie Apr 2014 #53
The driver sensor? Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #57
Let's ban radios and mirrors too. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #41
See my reply above customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #63
no frylock Apr 2014 #44
It's just a matter of time customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #64
79 people die every day as a result of prescription drug overdose.. frylock Apr 2014 #70
False comparison customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #71
i don't text and drive.. frylock Apr 2014 #75
And one other thing customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #78
you seem to presume a lot.. frylock Apr 2014 #81
Well, we'll communicate again customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #83
A better option obxhead Apr 2014 #112
That would take a long time to fully implement customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #115
I'm sure some people said the very same thing when the phone was invented. obxhead Apr 2014 #117
I find that a poor comparison customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #118
If we take away everything people misuse that cause injury or death obxhead Apr 2014 #120
It's a balance between risk and reward customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #121
people also crash while sending emails and driving. obxhead Apr 2014 #122
Very true customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #123
Well that's exactly in line with what I original ally proposed. obxhead Apr 2014 #124
it goes beyond texting - putting on make-up/shaving, eating, reading, pets in the driver's lap DrDan Apr 2014 #8
Smoking! nt Logical Apr 2014 #18
Actually you CAN smoke and drive... Whiskeytide Apr 2014 #30
Long long ago... pipi_k Apr 2014 #34
! dionysus Apr 2014 #45
Anything like The Dude smoking weed and drink beer in the car while driving neverforget Apr 2014 #80
Big danger... Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #113
practice the trumpet with the notes on one's knees ... MisterP Apr 2014 #43
While all of that is true customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #66
How to fix it! Uben Apr 2014 #9
Is that even possible? I would also worry about the inability to make emergency calls. morningfog Apr 2014 #12
Ever heard of passengers? CBGLuthier Apr 2014 #14
If a passenger customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #67
better solution: if you don't like to text then don't text frylock Apr 2014 #72
I don't text customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #77
apparently you don't read either.. frylock Apr 2014 #82
I did not see that post customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #84
Pulling over and parking in the emergency lane is a terrible suggestion. If B Calm Apr 2014 #16
Terrible idea. Nt Logical Apr 2014 #17
problem; it's legal to talk on the phone whiledriving if you use a headset or bluetooth. dionysus Apr 2014 #46
Yeah, what about passengers Politicalboi Apr 2014 #54
Warning: SevenSixtyTwo Apr 2014 #11
that is a powerful ad .. this is one that really got to me. littlewolf Apr 2014 #15
Interesting VWolf Apr 2014 #21
That is a british add nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #49
I don't think it's a stereotype. Glassunion Apr 2014 #55
Thanks n/t VWolf Apr 2014 #90
THAT one is devastating. Holy crap. FailureToCommunicate Apr 2014 #26
One of the best PSAs on the subject ever made nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #50
I was waiting for her to Politicalboi Apr 2014 #56
This does no good... RoccoR5955 Apr 2014 #19
Oh I disagree .. the police will enforce the law if for no other reason littlewolf Apr 2014 #22
But the police are highly trained driving experts. They can handle distractions... Glassunion Apr 2014 #36
It is against poiicy for local officers to drive and text nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #51
From what I've observed customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #68
K&R n/t Feral Child Apr 2014 #23
I drive my daughter to school and often drive to work on surface streets in Chicago alcibiades_mystery Apr 2014 #24
Here in MA law say no texting while engine in gear...so that applies to stopped at a red FailureToCommunicate Apr 2014 #27
That's the law here, too alcibiades_mystery Apr 2014 #28
That's nice customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #69
Good idea. Under 18 does lose their licence in MA, and have to complete a course on consequences FailureToCommunicate Apr 2014 #73
Good for you customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #74
Powerful ad all right. But the policeman should have said "It just might have saved FailureToCommunicate Apr 2014 #25
This is as much an ad for police pulling over people they think might have been texting as it is Taitertots Apr 2014 #86
And why would a cop suspect that? customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #88
I see where you are coming from, however that would lead to Glassunion Apr 2014 #92
This is distracted driving month nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #98
I was run off the freeway by a guy talking on his cellphone. lob1 Apr 2014 #102
The app rwork Apr 2014 #103
OK, so you think texting customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #107
I have enough trouble texting when I'm just sitting at home Rhiannon12866 Apr 2014 #125
I see people driving on the intertate highways glancing from road to phone and back. Skip Intro Apr 2014 #130

NutmegYankee

(16,478 posts)
1. We need more ads like that.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:33 AM
Apr 2014

People just don't seem to get it. I've nearly been sideswiped multiple times by people texting. And then there's the light going green and cars just sit there as they finish a text.

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
2. Every day when I drive to work, I see at least one person texting and driving,
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 06:14 AM
Apr 2014

or they're admiring their crotch. They just look down toward their lap, smiling.

I see the same things you do, Beatle. People sitting at an intersection, almost running stop signs, drifting left of the center of the road, etc. And I know most of it is caused by texting.

callous taoboy

(4,785 posts)
3. I barely made it through an intersection yesterday-
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 06:37 AM
Apr 2014

Light was green, doing the 35mph SL, I cruised through the busy intersection and a person driving an SUV cruised through her red light, slammed her brakes and missed taking out my back end by a hair. Shook me up. Whether she was texting or not I can't verify, but I suspect.

That is one hell of a gut-punch ad, and it needs to be run everywhere.

argyl

(3,064 posts)
4. Several months ago I was rear ended by a girl texting while driving.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 06:57 AM
Apr 2014

Fortunately, although we were both on a state highway and doing over 50 MPH, the difference in speed was negligible and there was no damage to people or vehicles.
She said she was texting and the phone slipped out of her hand. Her reflex was to go for the phone laying on the floor, like it was an extension of herself.
I told her she was indeed fortunate that no damage resulted from the accident and she should refrain from texting while driving. She agreed and Maybe she has but I'd be surprised.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
5. I drove 18 wheelers all my life. Looking down I've seen it all,
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:08 AM
Apr 2014

but there was one thing that pissed me off more than anything. Having a speeding state cop passing me and playing with his laptop computer!

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
7. We need to ban texting, period
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:19 AM
Apr 2014

All you have to do is pass a law that orders the mobile telephone companies to unplug the servers that supply it. We got along fine without it a dozen years ago, and addicts have ruined it for the few people who managed to use it responsibly.

It's turned us into a nation of obliviots.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
47. Actually there is a way to do it
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 04:24 PM
Apr 2014

but it is not one that people will like, You can have your phone disabled when you step into your vehicle. There are downs to this, though it could be unlocked if you use it for the ONLY LEGAL thing you can do while driving, calling 911.

It is a problem for other reasons, since it would penalize the passengers. But seriously, the technology does exist.

WillowTree

(5,350 posts)
93. My GPS is through my phone and I hear it through my Bluetooth headset.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 12:24 PM
Apr 2014

I don't need it often, but when I need it, I need it. Why would I want to disable that?

And as someone else pointed out, it is legal to talk on the phone with a hands free device, and not only to call 911.

I'm tired of being penalized, one way or another, for the stupidity of others,

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
95. The phone can have SMS disabled and phone disabled
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 12:39 PM
Apr 2014

If you are not using a blue tooth device. The technology exists. It would not penalize you, but might save lives. And it is not legal to text while driving.

In fact, parents are now encouraged to install the actual software in their kids phones.

Here is one for win phones

http://developer.vodafone.com/discuss/question/760/how-to-block-calls-and-sms-on-windows-mobile/

Here for iPhone.

http://www.iblacklist.com.br/

AT&T also has specific software solutions for their phones.

Now personally, as a trained emergency operations driver, I do not have a blue tooth device, nor intend to get one. It is still distracted driving. Less so, but still distracted driving. Though from where I at times call the boss having a mike might not be a bad idea.


As to the gps, just a point of info, in large urban areas, or main interstates it will work. In back country where cell service is dodgy, to be charitable, or the cell towers go down due to quake, fire, flood, what have you, your phone based gps will be worthless since it relies on triangulation from towers, not satellite. Why we actually got an actual, satellite based gps. If or when you buy a car, make sure your on board NAV, in case you decide to get that, is satellite based.

Sorry for the long answer, but I got the leading edge of scrapping kids (and adults) off the road. You can blame me, and my team of paramedics for tracking that for a few years and putting the stats together, which lead to Baja California forbidding the use of cell phones in cars. When they passed it hands free was not even an option, it did not exist. They have since modified it. But when you put one too many kids and older adults in the back of your rig due to distracted driving...and yes, the lady who was putting make up was also charged by the cops before you say it for aggravated vehicular manslaughter, under that law.

WillowTree

(5,350 posts)
99. I just love it when people respond to my posts.......
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 04:02 PM
Apr 2014

.......without ever having actually read them. So, to respond in kind

I do use a Bluetooth device, as stated in my original response.

and

I never said anything about text messaging, which I never, ever do while driving, by the way, so I don't get the need to point out that it is, in fact, illegal, bolded no less.

Oh, and are you really sure that the GPS on my phone is not satellite based? Really?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
100. Funny, I read your post and I responded to your post,
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 04:10 PM
Apr 2014

so let me add again, the meat of the response.

IF YOU ARE USING A BLUE TOOTH DEVICE AND THE DAMN FRACKING THING IS ENABLED IT CAN BE DETECTED BY SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS AND YOUR PHONE WILL CONTINUE TO FUNCTION.


As to the rest, what-eeevvverr...

There are days I wonder about the but ME mentality.


customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
58. You can actually talk on a cellphone
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:17 PM
Apr 2014

while driving, using a handsfree Bluetooth device. I have one built into the newer car I bought, and my hands always stay on the wheel, and my eyes on the road. Texting requires a person to look at a tiny screen, and that's what makes it fundamentally different.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
13. Yes, we should base all our laws on the one percent that are idiots.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:45 AM
Apr 2014

Ban cars too because lets be honest at least one percent of those operating cars are incompetent, we did not have cars 110 years ago and we do not need them now.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
42. "at least one percent of those operating cars are incompetent"? I'd say more like at least 25%.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 11:25 AM
Apr 2014

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
59. You make a good point
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:19 PM
Apr 2014

What if we had restricted private cars when they were first seen to be a problem? Instead of having an entire transportation system built for over a century around personal automobiles, we'd have something that would be the ultimate mass transit system. Of course, once cars got a foothold, there was no taking them away.

I advocate getting rid of texting before it becomes that entrenched in our society. And if you think we're already there, then maybe that's a sign that you're addicted to it.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
79. And they don't make scads of money
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:11 PM
Apr 2014

from people using up minutes of talk time? With unlimited texting as a feature on so many mobile phone packages, I can't really imagine that they really find texting lucrative.

All we need is someone famous or powerful to have a loved one killed or severely injured by a texting obliviot, and we're on the way to getting this thing banned before we get to the point where we can't imagine what life was like before it existed.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
85. Customer. you know that you charged MUCH MORE for DATA than talk
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 11:58 PM
Apr 2014

right? I would love to make you feel better but this is JUST FACT....

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
87. I wouldn't know
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 07:18 AM
Apr 2014

I have two smartphones, and I never text. In fact, I've disabled texting on one of the phones, I just haven't figured out how to do it on the other one (a Windows phone that I'm about ready to get rid of). It might come in handy someday to prove that I wasn't texting if I have an accident.

Ok, then maybe the telecom industry can pay victims of text-and-driving incidents. But it's never going to bring people back to life.

What are your suggestions for dealing with the fact that this addictive behavior is causing so much death and mayhem? Or, do we just accept it as collateral damage, as we're in effect doing right now?

Maybe the auto insurance industry can fight this. Provide proof that you don't text on your phone plan, and get a huge discount, refuse to provide it, and get a massive surcharge. They already have devices that you can hook into your car to prove that you don't drive like a jackass.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
89. Customer, we get a concession and we pretty much have free service BUT guess what..
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 07:34 AM
Apr 2014

NEITHER I nor my husband TEXT..that the one thing they DO NOT OFFER concessions on. WAY TOO BOTHERSOME AND EXPENSIVE. Yep, I agree with all of your recommendations. Back around 2000, texting was free, no data charges AND just when people became ADDICTED, guess what happened? They started charging an arm, leg and all firstborns for data. JUST like a drug dealer does when first rolling out a new product in a previously drug free zone.
Frankly, I've told my husband that I feel the penalty for texting and driving should be 1500.00 FIRST TIME AROUND and GO UP 3000.00 EVERY TIME YOU'RE CAUGHT but by the 3rd time, LOSE YOUR LICENCE...forevah!!

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
108. Thank you
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 05:23 PM
Apr 2014

I think the penalties for texting and driving should be at least as draconian as they are for drunk driving. Frankly, the texters make me look stone cold sober after I've had two beers with the gang in the couple of hours after work on an occasional Friday night.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
91. SMS is old school, we are moving forward with IM&P on a new product
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 11:25 AM
Apr 2014

IM&P = instant messaging and presence-

You know, like when you are on your desktop computer and you can see who is online via whatever IM client you are using and send an instant message? (presence knowing if they are online/in meeting/away)

I've been testing an app from one of our vendors in the lab for a while.


Snooper2-
Proud telecom employee adding more convenience for the busy worker! (Plus, it's tied to your business identity (work number))

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
109. Sounds invasive
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 05:24 PM
Apr 2014

Doesn't anybody from Gen Y know what it is like to have time to yourself, when nobody can bother you? Don't they realize its value?

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
116. What the hell you talking about, I'm GenX baby!
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:33 AM
Apr 2014

Old school!

Gen Xers were often called the MTV Generation.[29] They experienced the emergence of music videos, new wave music, electronic music, synthpop, glam rock, heavy metal and the spin-off glam metal, punk rock and the spin-off pop punk, alternative rock, grunge,[30] and hip hop.[31]




customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
119. Well, then you should know
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 05:50 PM
Apr 2014

how good it was to have time to yourself. I would imagine that anyone who grew up in the last 25 years would think that you always have to be connected 24/7 to the rest of the world by an electronic leash.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
126. It depends on the plan
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:29 PM
Apr 2014

I have unlimited text, but 250 min. voice and 200 mb data. That's AT&T where I live.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
128. THEN, MALOKVALE, if you only have 200MB DATA....
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 06:08 PM
Apr 2014

SOMEONE LIED TO YOU! HUSBAND works for AT&T and trust me when I tell you that TEXTING IS DATA. So, you're paying for an UNLIMITED plan that is NOT unlimited! You're being REGULATED. DON'T BELIEVE ME? See what happens if you text in an area where you're NOT on WIFI....EASY to do even in the SAME city. NOT all areas in Cities are covered by 3G/4G. VERY easy to find yourself with a HUGE bill when you go over your 200mb data. My brother has an UNLIMITED plan through AT&T, which includes 2GB of data, unlimited text & talk BUT he went to LA on the train and texted his friends to pass the time and QUICKLY used up that "UNLIMITED" plan and owed almost 300.00 at the next billing cycle. IT'S NOT UNLIMITED...This is a serious case of WORD PARSING.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
96. I genuinely can't tell if you're joking, or just insane.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 12:42 PM
Apr 2014

If this is satire, you possibly need to mark it as such for it to be appreciated.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
106. Why do you think I'm joking?
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 05:19 PM
Apr 2014

It would be the very simplest way to stop all of the daily carnage that goes on because addicts are misusing a new technology.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
111. Because it's such an absurd (and illiberal) suggestion.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 05:38 PM
Apr 2014

Being a liberal is about letting people make their own choices as much as possible, and only compelling them to do things your way in extreme cases.

Banning texting was already a ridiculous suggestion; expressing regret that private ownership of cars wasn't restricted... words fail me.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
114. The video in the OP
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 07:15 AM
Apr 2014

tries to illustrate people "making their own choices", and it depicts a result that is a daily occurrence in many places in the US. All for something that we got along without perfectly fine fifteen years ago. A progressive society does try to identify problems that are caused by the unintended consequences of new technology, especially since they are so very severe, and involve those not engaged in the activity.

All I said about private cars was that we have traded the reliable mass transit systems found throughout Europe for the myriad problems of a fully-self directed transportation system. At this point, yes, it's unthinkable to take away private cars, I'd like to get rid of texting before it becomes so ingrained in society that we blithely accept the collateral damage of dozens or even hundreds killed or severely injured per day as the price of "progress".

Having texting is just not worth it.

Warpy

(114,616 posts)
101. It's not one percent
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 04:21 PM
Apr 2014

and idiots who text while driving are a lot more dangerous than drunks and I live in the land of spectacular drunks who like to do over 100 MPH the wrong way on the interstates. Texters are worse, they're totally oblivious to everything but that damned phone.

I'd love to see cars with jammers that disable the fucking things. You'd have to get out of the car to use them.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
60. Why do you think
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:21 PM
Apr 2014

we don't allow TV's in the front seats of automobiles? Maybe there's a difference between how one uses a TV and how one uses a radio?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
29. The obliviots are the ones who use a post-hoc-ergo-prompter-hoc fallacy to validate their low-grade
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 09:58 AM
Apr 2014

"It's turned us into a nation of obliviots."

The obliviots are the ones who use a post-hoc-ergo-prompter-hoc fallacy to validate their low-grade "luddacy"?

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
61. And the pretentious
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:24 PM
Apr 2014

like to use a lot of obscure Latin phrases.

Don't you see all the mindless robot-resembling buffoons walking without looking where they're going in intersections, and in public places? YouTube is chock full of stupid people running into things because they're too tuned into some tiny screen. It's one thing to do that when you're a pedestrian, but quite another when you're operating a motor vehicle.

When we get the self-driving car, then maybe we can have texting again. It's the stupid people who are ruining it for you.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
97. Here is where SMS will be invaluable
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 12:48 PM
Apr 2014

In case of a disaster, to get in contact with family when the phone signal cannot get out. It is a fact jack that SMS uses the lowest tier signal.

We also use it to keep in contact with family across borders, much cheaper than the phone. Some services are free to the end user, don't ask me how they make their money.

And in the business of covering news we use it. I get alerts from my local PD, fire and Sherriffs office. It is convenient to be honest.

Yes, there are people out there that live on SMS, but you tube videos are hardly the majority.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
105. True
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 05:17 PM
Apr 2014

But is it worth the body count? Does it need to be higher for you to see that it might need to be taken away because of the very addictiveness of texting?

I compare it to Asian wars that the US gets itself into every couple of decades or so. Our "leaders", political and military, think that the casualties will be minor. It's only when there are planeloads of caskets coming back that the people demand an end to them, and eventually vote in congresscritters who cut off funding, if the executive and military branches of government don't pull out fast enough.

We got along just fine without texting a decade and a half ago, we can certainly live without it today. There are other ways of being able to keep track of what first responders are up to, people used to use police and fire radio scanners for that.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
110. I frankly don't think it is that addictive
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 05:25 PM
Apr 2014

that said, SMS should be disabled the moment you step into a vehicle. Ok. to be more precise, the moment you turn the vehicle on.

I pointed above that there are software solutions that do that already. Though that has to include twitter and facebook, which incidentally I use from the field as well.

As to the body count... you can blame me, and a bunch of my medics for the first ban in Mexico for using the cell phone while driving. We compiled the stats and made the case to lawmakers.

When that law was passed there were no hands free devices, so originally it was akin to driving while drunk, no exceptions with exactly the same penalties, which in Mexico they are nothing to sneeze at. Believe it or not they are far worst than the US, and god help you if you kill or injure somebody. For the record they also applied it to things like applying make up while driving, and one woman was charged with aggravated vehicular manslaughter for doing that. When hands free came out, they modified the law, under pressure from the companies. But like the US, if your phone is within reach and you crash, chances are you will be P1 in an accident. This has a few issues for me since at times we run the scanner app on top of the scanner on the way to a fire. But that is why the phone is in the cup holder. If I can get the damn thing... now you will make me finally get the hardware to use the speakers in the vehicle.

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
33. Or just require that the smartphone disable all .....
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:35 AM
Apr 2014

... texting, email, and other distracting apps whenever the GPS reports that it is moving?

Too bad for those on busses, trains or taxis.

Kablooie

(19,108 posts)
39. There could be a manual override with a password.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 11:19 AM
Apr 2014

Easy to do if you plan to text on a bus but unlikely for people to do everytime they get in their car.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
62. Having them on the driver's side
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:27 PM
Apr 2014

has been a pet peeve of mine, but I've seen countless drivers (almost invariably female) utilize the rear-view mirror for this function when it didn't come pre-equipped on their cars.

Kablooie

(19,108 posts)
38. With gps phones could sense when they are moving.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 11:14 AM
Apr 2014

And a law could require phones to disable texting if the phone is moving above a certain speed.

Kablooie

(19,108 posts)
52. The ultimate would be for the phone to sense ...
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 04:45 PM
Apr 2014

when it's in the driver's seat area and moving above a certain speed before it locks messaging.

The car would probably need a special sensor for that but then it would allow passengers to still use their phones and wouldn't affect train or bus riders.

It would probably be something that would need to be required by law before it would be widely implemented.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
65. Very true, but what do you do with british cars?
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:36 PM
Apr 2014

The problem is that this will fought to no end, and it has some lovely potentials for abuse as well.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
129. My phone already knows when I am driving
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 12:20 AM
Apr 2014

And switches to hands free automatically.

Moto x from google!

It is an awesome freaking phone!

 

Boom Sound 416

(4,185 posts)
57. The driver sensor?
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:16 PM
Apr 2014

That would take decades to implement.

Unless you forced people to have them installed say when they get the inspection sticker. Seems like a tall order though.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
63. See my reply above
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:29 PM
Apr 2014

on the issue of radios. Also, mirrors (when not used to apply makeup) are quite useful safety devices for a driver of a moving vehicle.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
64. It's just a matter of time
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:34 PM
Apr 2014

Right now, about 9 or 10 people a day die from texting drivers. Do you expect texting to still be legal when it gets to 90 to 100 people a day? How about 900 to 1000?

All we need is for a texting-caused death to involve a famous person, and maybe we'll consider that this was a road we shouldn't have gone down.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
70. 79 people die every day as a result of prescription drug overdose..
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:52 PM
Apr 2014

REAL people, not like the 900-1000 people you pulled out of your ass. famous people, even.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
71. False comparison
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:58 PM
Apr 2014

Prescription drugs alleviate pain, suffering and keep people alive. Texting doesn't do that.

You seem to be super-fond of this, tell me, what does texting enable you to do that you simply couldn't do with a much safer phone call?

frylock

(34,825 posts)
75. i don't text and drive..
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 06:06 PM
Apr 2014

what texting allows me to do is communicate with people. texting doesn't require a strong signal, whereas voice communication does. moreover, sometimes I don't WANT to or CAN'T talk. why would I call someone when I can have an exchang like this:

beer tonight?
what time?
6
kk

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
78. And one other thing
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:07 PM
Apr 2014

Your friends can and do ignore voicemail messages that you'd leave them, but they simply cannot resist a text from you, right? That's what makes this so incredibly dangerous.

Under what circumstances can't you talk, but you can use both hands and both eyes to chatter about things that people just used to say to each other? That's another thing that makes texting dangerous, the assumption is that reading and responding to the message takes so very little time, that it couldn't hurt to just read or answer THIS text.

Its the nature of this communication, how it saps the concentration, how addictive it is, and how trivial many people view the consequences that make it worthy of being banned, like any other drug that incapacitates so many.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
81. you seem to presume a lot..
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:24 PM
Apr 2014

what have I posted here that would indicate to you that this texting is occurring in situations that are so incredibly dangerous? here's some full disclosure for you: sometimes I respond to texts while I'm taking a shit. so rather than involving strangers in my one-sided conversations I find it easier to respond with SMS. sometimes those texts are when i'm sitting in a conference room prior to a meeting, where getting into a prolonged conversation is not desirable. in any case, I really don't feel a need to justify my texting to you or anyone, so i'm done communicating with you on this subject. good day.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
83. Well, we'll communicate again
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:27 PM
Apr 2014

when the first bill comes up in a state legislature to ban this, I guarantee it.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
112. A better option
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 07:05 PM
Apr 2014

Would be requiring car manufacturers to install cell blockers in all cars. Pit it in gear and it kills all signals to your phone.

End of the problem.

Texts have their place in life, just not behind the wheel.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
115. That would take a long time to fully implement
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 07:18 AM
Apr 2014

And would be most ineffective with the part of the population who is the bulk of the problem. Who usually has the older cars? Younger people who think they are indestructable.

And what place does texting have in life that simply cannot be accomplished in another fashion? Why the reluctance to just dial someone's number and speak with them, rather than transmitting butchered abbreviations?

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
117. I'm sure some people said the very same thing when the phone was invented.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 04:59 PM
Apr 2014

Why spend all that time and money when a letter works just as well.

I find texting to be a huge help in my business. I can convey a message quickly to a large group of people without interrupting important business they may be involved in.

Just because you don't utilize a technology, doesn't mean millions of others do so and are happy to have it available.

As for the time frame on blocking cells in cars.... airbags were required on cars starting in 94. Yes it did take a long time but today most cars on the road have airbags, including the junk many kids drive. I'm sure their parents are grateful their kids are better protected.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
118. I find that a poor comparison
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 05:47 PM
Apr 2014

Phones are immediate, and two-way, like conversation between two people in the same room. Letters are clearly much slower. I'm sure that high cost was a prohibitive factor for those contemplating moving from letter writing to telephoning, but it's clear that by a century ago, the telephone was able to compete with postage of only two cents a letter.

Also, getting a telephone didn't mean that you would use it to distract yourself to the point where you're a danger to others. Even the cellular mobile phone allows one to use one's eyes to track one's surroundings while carrying on a conversation (despite the fools who seem to need to look at the general direction of the phone), whereas texting ALWAYS involves visual distraction.

As for communicating to many people quickly, that was figured out when we developed email. You could always use that. Of course, once upon a time, people were excited to get an email, now we know that a "You've Got Mail" is much more than likely to be a piece of spam, even if it's from a trusted sender. In other words, there is no addictive compulsion to check email like there is with a text. Maybe junk texts would change that attitude.

Your comments on airbags are apt, you use a timespan of 20 years to make your point. Airbags only protect the occupants of the car that is equipped with them, what protects me from the teenaged obliviot who seems to need to LOL with his/her BFF at the exact moment the light turns red? Frankly, one of the reasons I bought a new car about a year ago was the advanced airbags, including side curtain ones. Still, I'm not as indestructible as the texting clown who hits me thinks he is.

Why shouldn't we take away that which too many people are so incredibly willing to misuse, with devastating results to the innocent?

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
120. If we take away everything people misuse that cause injury or death
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 06:09 PM
Apr 2014

Not even pillows will be legal.

Emails also are not a good option for my line of work. Every employee has a cell that can receive a text, that is not so for email.

Furthermore texting and driving is already illegal. People still do it, just like they will speed, drink and drive, operate cars that are not road worthy, etc etc etc.

Punishing the millions upon millions of safe text users is not the answer.

I bet if we sat down I could find a number of things you use/do that I find irritating and potentially dangerous. I'm sure you use those things safely though. I wouldn't propose taking them away just because you have other options or I find them tacky or annoying.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
121. It's a balance between risk and reward
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 06:21 PM
Apr 2014

Right now, the "rewards" of texting are nothing that can't be accomplished by phone calls (with voicemail) or emails. The risks are depicted in the video in the OP. Do nine or ten people a day die from pillows?

You correctly point out that in most jurisdictions (I'm sure there are a couple of them that have not yet gotten around to it) that texting and driving is illegal. Yet, the very addictive nature of this thing causes a high proportion of drivers to become lawbreakers. In places like where I live, law enforcement is a joke. I routinely see drivers texting, and there's no cops pulling them over. My lady even knows a woman at work who FINALLY had to go to court on about the twelfth time a cop noticed her texting and driving. She has to be pretty hard core to have been warned that many times, the police here don't enforce much of anything.

"Punishing"? Blame the people who cannot control their obsession, rather than those of us who are trying to take away the scissors from those who run with them. And it's not about tacky or annoying, it's a health issue.

If I went back in time fifty years ago, and told the people of 1964 that we would have public spaces where smoking was not allowed, they would not have believed it, smoking was so very widespread and socially acceptable in many confined situations. Yet, when we focused on the damage that tobacco does, we were able to deal with the problem in a responsible way, no matter that it seriously inconvenienced the smokers.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
122. people also crash while sending emails and driving.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 06:43 PM
Apr 2014

I had a friend do this and I called him an idiot and was thankful nobody was injured.

Should we ban emails? Maybe we just ban phones that have the internet and make emails available?

People have crashed and died while just talking on the cell phone.

Do we ban cell phones alltogether?

People make poor decisions all the time that put innocent people at risk. Banning the device is not the answer.

I've provided a real life potentially helpful solution. Yes, it would take years, even decades to be extremely effective, but you have to start somewhere.

The solution you propose is to take the scissors away from billions of otherwise safe scissor user simply because some will misuse them. History has proven time and again that it is a failing policy to do such a thing.

Another thing I would suggest is making texting while driving the same charge as a DUI. In my mind they are nearly one in the same for safety.

I'll stick with the billions of safe users though and be happy I have such a handy and safe technology available.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
123. Very true
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 06:52 PM
Apr 2014

And indeed, there are really stupid obsessive people who have done and will do this. However, I don't find the compulsive nature of the text message to be anywhere as pronounced with an email, most people know that it doesn't have to be responded to immediately. Blame (or credit) spam for that, most people know it's not worth risking your life for an email about a sale at Kohl's.

Can you at least support taking texting away from those who have been multiple offenders? If you get busted for driving while drunk, you may be in a jurisdiction that requires you to install an ignition interlock for a period of time. I know a guy at work who had to have one, it was very expensive to pay for on a monthly basis, including monitoring fees. How about that cell phone blocking device being required for those who have been busted on two or more occasions, with licence suspension for those who can't follow the rules?

The two conditions are similar in their destructive effects, but I observe that it would be much, much easier to stop a dozen telcos from offering texting than it would be to eliminate bars. When we get the self-driving car, the world will be a much safer place, but until we're there, can't I just worry about drunks, and not the growing popularity of texting?

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
124. Well that's exactly in line with what I original ally proposed.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 06:58 PM
Apr 2014

And it would be a good way to get the device installed in those older cars.

Fix the problem, not the device. The problem is a small percentage of users who don't think of others, not the tech itself.

Would you hang an adult for drinking a beer in the comfort of his home while safely watching a baseball game? No, you make laws that make it illegal for the asshole to down a case at a friends house while watching the game and then driving.

Punish the offenders, not the myriad of safe users.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
8. it goes beyond texting - putting on make-up/shaving, eating, reading, pets in the driver's lap
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:19 AM
Apr 2014

a few years back, we saw a guy in a pickup with the Sunday paper resting on the steering wheel as he drove down the interstate.

driving is secondary

Whiskeytide

(4,656 posts)
30. Actually you CAN smoke and drive...
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:10 AM
Apr 2014

... the trick is lighting the cigarette while driving, and taking care not to drop an ash in your lap.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
34. Long long ago...
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:35 AM
Apr 2014

when I was very young and still smoked I had a few incidents with cigarettes...

One of them that happened while in the car....


I was driving my VW Beetle while holding a lit cigarette in my right hand...forgetting it was there, I went to brush back my hair so I could see better.

Lit cigarette brushed the interior roof, knocking the lit head off and causing it to go down the sleeve of my winter jacket.


I've also burnt off parts of my hair with disposable lighters set too high.

Oh, and never try to throw a lit cigarette into the toilet, between your legs, while you're sitting on it. Bad things happen...



customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
66. While all of that is true
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:38 PM
Apr 2014

it's way too late to ban makeup, or ways to shave. And the Sunday paper is becoming a dinosaur, besides, far more obliviot drivers try to read the news (or whatever) on a smart phone than ever read the newspaper while driving.

The vast majority of people can wait for the news, or just turn on the radio if they really need some while driving, but seemingly, a text message from their BFF wanting to LOL over a silly picture of a cat seems to be completely irresistable.

Uben

(7,719 posts)
9. How to fix it!
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:35 AM
Apr 2014

Make phones in cars inoperable while the ignition is on. Wanna use the phone? Pull over, switch the ignition off, dial or text away! To me, it seems this is the best way to address this problem. As long as you can use the phone in a car, people will abuse the privilege and kill others in the process.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
12. Is that even possible? I would also worry about the inability to make emergency calls.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:41 AM
Apr 2014

There are times when calls or texts would need to be made while the engine is still running. And, what about passengers? Shouldn't they be permitted to use their phones at all times?

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
14. Ever heard of passengers?
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:47 AM
Apr 2014

Should passengers be subject to this? What exact technical means would you use for your "best" solution. A jammer? Those are illegal in the US. Next idea? Some kind of magical electrical field suppressor thingie? Got the specs on that?

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
67. If a passenger
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:40 PM
Apr 2014

has a cell phone, then why not just make a call with it? Every phone I've ever heard of with text capacity can also be used to make voice calls. And guess what, they're faster to make, too!

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
77. I don't text
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:02 PM
Apr 2014

And I don't want you doing it while driving. Since so many seem to be so addicted to it, and so much that PSAs like the ones in the OP are going to do nothing to dissuade them, we need to get rid of this completely unnecessary practice before it kills more people.

It's the addicts who are ruining it for "responsible" people like yourself. (I assume you have never, nor would you ever text and drive.)

frylock

(34,825 posts)
82. apparently you don't read either..
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:25 PM
Apr 2014

what part of me telling you that I don't text and drive did you not understand?

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
84. I did not see that post
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:31 PM
Apr 2014

when I made the one above this one. I did see it later, however.

Glad to see that you don't subscribe to the idea that it's a little OK to text and drive. Too many people clearly disagree with you. Not here, of course, but on the roads, they sure do. I can always spot them by the following distances they keep, even at a stoplight. And in those cases, they don't notice that the light has changed as fast as everybody else does.

Really, if they gave out a bounty for turning in a texter, I'd quit my job and just do that, it's like shooting fish in a barrel where I live.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
16. Pulling over and parking in the emergency lane is a terrible suggestion. If
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:56 AM
Apr 2014

any of you do pull over, get completely off the roadway. The shoulder on exit ramps are bad too. People exit highways at a high rate of speed. The shoulder on the get on ramps is much safer.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
46. problem; it's legal to talk on the phone whiledriving if you use a headset or bluetooth.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 04:20 PM
Apr 2014

and as they said, what about passengers?

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
54. Yeah, what about passengers
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 04:48 PM
Apr 2014

What about people who can't wait 20 minutes to talk and text or watch movies. They might have to carry a conversation. We want it NOW!

VWolf

(3,944 posts)
21. Interesting
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 08:15 AM
Apr 2014

Both this ad and the one in the OP depict girls/women texting. No guys anywhere.

Is this a stereotype, or are they merely directed ads? Just curious.

I've seen just as many men texting while driving as women.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
55. I don't think it's a stereotype.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 04:48 PM
Apr 2014

Just a coincidence that these two (of the many out there) were posted that featured females.

To balance things out...





 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
50. One of the best PSAs on the subject ever made
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 04:33 PM
Apr 2014

our chickens will never run anything close to this on our airwaves. They actually produced one similar to this with HS students after a major crash. The kids were actors, they had the moulage and the destroyed cars for the FF to play rescuers.

The add never saw the light of day. It was just as hard as this one. The kids WANTED to produce it, after one of their classmates got killed in a devastating crash.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
19. This does no good...
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 08:00 AM
Apr 2014

NYS police are EXEMPT from this law. I see them all the time on their cell phones, and texting while driving. Why don't these laws pertain to them. Until the police have to obey the same laws, they will not be enforced.

littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
22. Oh I disagree .. the police will enforce the law if for no other reason
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 08:20 AM
Apr 2014

then money. tickets ya know.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
51. It is against poiicy for local officers to drive and text
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 04:35 PM
Apr 2014

or use their on board computers.

Yeah, some do it. and they hate it when they get caught on camera and reported to supervisors or worst, the civilian commission. The ONLY exception is when they have to acknowledge dispatch while responding to a call, and if two officers are on board a cruiser during a hot pursuit, the passenger handles the radio

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
68. From what I've observed
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:43 PM
Apr 2014

in the seven years I've lived here, most laws are regarded as mere suggestions by the local driving population. I know that when I moved here, I was not asked to take either a written or driving test, and believe me, the results show on the roads around here.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
24. I drive my daughter to school and often drive to work on surface streets in Chicago
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 08:32 AM
Apr 2014

I'd say 40% of other drivers are actively texting while driving. It's fucking terrifying. If you add people who "responsibly" only text when they're stopped at a red light, it's probably closer to 60%.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,605 posts)
27. Here in MA law say no texting while engine in gear...so that applies to stopped at a red
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 09:26 AM
Apr 2014

light as well.

No texting, or ANY non calling activity (status updates, Facebook browsing, re tweeting etc.). You must be pulled over and in "park"

And drivers under 18 can not use ANY mobile device for ANY reason -even calls- while car is in gear.

Gov Patrick signed this into law in 2010, joining 27 other states with restrictions on mobil device use in vehicles.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/07/03/new_state_law_spells_it_out_no_texting_behind_wheel/

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
69. That's nice
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:46 PM
Apr 2014

but is it enforced? My lady works with a woman who only got a ticket from a cop on the dozenth time that one nailed her for texting while driving. If it's not enforced, then it will be ignored.

Here's another idea: You LOSE your license to drive by the third time you get busted for texting while driving, and the first time you're in an accident while doing this. We do this to drunk drivers, are texting drivers any different?

FailureToCommunicate

(14,605 posts)
73. Good idea. Under 18 does lose their licence in MA, and have to complete a course on consequences
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 06:01 PM
Apr 2014

which would probably include watching PSAs like the above.

From the law: "The prohibited activities will be primary offenses, meaning police will not need another reason to stop a car and ticket the driver. Violations will result in a $100 fine, and drivers under 18 will also have their licenses suspended for 60 days and be required to complete a course to change their behavior."

But yes, only good if the police enforce it. They claim they do.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
74. Good for you
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 06:06 PM
Apr 2014

I would imagine most police in most places enforce it, they're the ones who see the results of crashes more than just about anybody. However, most laws are a joke around here, and there are so very many ways to wiggle out of anything that you'd get caught for. You should see all the police-ass-kiss bumper stickers, and even license plates around here.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,605 posts)
25. Powerful ad all right. But the policeman should have said "It just might have saved
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 09:03 AM
Apr 2014

her life, and her friends."

Friends don't let friends text while driving.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
86. This is as much an ad for police pulling over people they think might have been texting as it is
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 12:20 AM
Apr 2014

a public service announcement against texting while driving.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
88. And why would a cop suspect that?
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 07:22 AM
Apr 2014

Lots of good reasons: The person driving constantly has their face towards their lap. Not staying in one's lane. Not signaling lane changes or turns. Large following distances, even at red lights. Slow to respond to a green light, or the car in front of them when the light turns green.

All of those are really good reasons to pull people over. There should be an implied consent law that gives a cop to find out if a particular phone has been texting while the cop observes the suspicious behavior, just like there is for breath testing for alcohol.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
98. This is distracted driving month
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 01:00 PM
Apr 2014

Local officers will enforce the statue and it is far from just texting. They announced it

lob1

(3,820 posts)
102. I was run off the freeway by a guy talking on his cellphone.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 04:28 PM
Apr 2014

And he never even realized what he'd done.

Rhiannon12866

(255,585 posts)
125. I have enough trouble texting when I'm just sitting at home
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 06:58 PM
Apr 2014

Make lots of typos that I have to fix. I can't imagine doing it and trying to drive at the same time...

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
130. I see people driving on the intertate highways glancing from road to phone and back.
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 12:58 AM
Apr 2014

They need to be off the roads.

Harsh penalties for texting and drivng.

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