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dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 01:16 PM Apr 2014

Crimea's Gay Community Fears For Life Under Russia

Yelena, an openly gay teacher in Crimea who is raising four children with her partner, fears she could lose her family and her job now that her home has been taken over by Russia.

Since the Black Sea peninsula broke away from Ukraine and pledged allegiance to Moscow last month, the 38-year-old has been dreading the impact of tough Russian laws on her and her family, she says.

"There are serious concerns that children can be taken away, and there could be problems at work," Yelena told AFP in Crimea's main city of Simferopol, speaking on the condition that her last name not be published.

Russian President Vladimir Putin last year signed a law banning the dissemination of so-called "gay propaganda" to minors.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/09/crimea-gay-community-_n_5119452.html

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Crimea's Gay Community Fears For Life Under Russia (Original Post) dlwickham Apr 2014 OP
Now, now! Behind the Aegis Apr 2014 #1
I can tell you this, I'm sick of the open hostility on DU posing as some sort Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #4
It is being allowed against a religious minority, Jews. Behind the Aegis Apr 2014 #5
yeah but RT tells us Russia is a gay paradise with his holiness Putin doing good works for all nt msongs Apr 2014 #2
We have only seen the tip of the iceberg of this story. William769 Apr 2014 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #6
And yet, Russia passed it. Behind the Aegis Apr 2014 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #11
And yet, Russia passed it. Behind the Aegis Apr 2014 #12
What is actual law and what is talked about are two different things. William769 Apr 2014 #8
It was only a matter of time until a "But Ukraine!" post showed up. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #9
"Like the cleaning of a house...." Behind the Aegis Apr 2014 #10
The comparison was valid dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #13
And would still not have such a law. William769 Apr 2014 #14
see dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #19
Um, do you understand the difference between not having pro-gay laws... joeybee12 Apr 2014 #20
No, it really wasn't. Behind the Aegis Apr 2014 #15
don't say red herring dlwickham Apr 2014 #17
My Russian friend has tried to convince me that gays have it just fine in Russia. AcertainLiz Apr 2014 #16
Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #18
Which, like non-existant Ukrainian anti-gay laws, is not the topic. Behind the Aegis Apr 2014 #22
Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #23
Loud gay activist? maddezmom Apr 2014 #24
So are the tatars nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #21

Behind the Aegis

(56,108 posts)
1. Now, now!
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 02:17 PM
Apr 2014

Be wary, or you may get inundated with how good the gays in Russia have it, even better than us in the US! Here is yet one more minority community who will be disrespected in multiple ways, including by those who use our rights as a pawn piece.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
4. I can tell you this, I'm sick of the open hostility on DU posing as some sort
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 02:29 PM
Apr 2014

of leftist stance. It's fucking insane and insulting, and it would not be allowed if these laws were against a racial or religious minority, but because it is LGBT, the defenders of Orthodoxy and Oligarchy are allowed to rant on....

Behind the Aegis

(56,108 posts)
5. It is being allowed against a religious minority, Jews.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 02:39 PM
Apr 2014

I agree it is very insulting, and indicates to me, many aren't as gay-positive as they claim to be. It started with the Olympics, and has become increasingly worse ever since, and almost always the same "players."

msongs

(73,752 posts)
2. yeah but RT tells us Russia is a gay paradise with his holiness Putin doing good works for all nt
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 02:24 PM
Apr 2014

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William769

(59,147 posts)
8. What is actual law and what is talked about are two different things.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 03:08 PM
Apr 2014

Nice try to deflect from th whats actually happening, but as usual it didn't work.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
13. The comparison was valid
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 03:16 PM
Apr 2014

inasmuch if Crimea was not now part of Russia it would still be part of Ukraine.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
20. Um, do you understand the difference between not having pro-gay laws...
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 07:26 PM
Apr 2014

and specifically targeting gays with discriminatroy laws...Lord, the Putin love and apology is strong.

Behind the Aegis

(56,108 posts)
15. No, it really wasn't.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 03:18 PM
Apr 2014

When Crimea was a part of Ukraine, there was no anti-gay law like Russia. Now, Crimea is part of Russia which does support a nifty, hate-filled anti-gay law, which is spawning concern among gays in Crimea. Therefore, your remarks are red herrings.

AcertainLiz

(863 posts)
16. My Russian friend has tried to convince me that gays have it just fine in Russia.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 03:20 PM
Apr 2014

What a joke...

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