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This is one hell of a strong statement!! (Original Post) Playinghardball Apr 2014 OP
Very strong statement, elleng Apr 2014 #1
Agree! emanymton Apr 2014 #19
Thank God it isn't $1 = 1 vote AAO Apr 2014 #28
Only if they vote randr Apr 2014 #2
Or start something else. Not sure what that would be, but playing this game may be 4 losers. n/t jtuck004 Apr 2014 #14
They did that in '08. Elected Obama with a majority in the House and a super in the Senate... Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #25
The struggle for a democratic nation is endless randr Apr 2014 #26
As One Who IS Most Definitely To THE LEFT... ChiciB1 Apr 2014 #34
It should be impressed on them AAO Apr 2014 #29
Yes. K&R Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #3
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #4
The money buys ads and media exposure treestar Apr 2014 #5
If only..... n/t Paper Roses Apr 2014 #6
depends on what he means by "we" and "they". nt msongs Apr 2014 #7
I Hope it Doesn't Turn out Like Dirty Socialist Apr 2014 #8
I hope he's right Arugula Latte Apr 2014 #9
That assumes the people get offended by the someone trying to buy the government. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #10
I am mad as hell ...... MindMover Apr 2014 #11
Actually.... Sheepshank Apr 2014 #12
Thank you, Bernie! lillypaddle Apr 2014 #13
we need people like him in democratic party instead of the blue dog conservatives pragmatic_dem Apr 2014 #15
There is one lesson Bernie gives us that many don't quite understand. A Simple Game Apr 2014 #27
+1 some people refuse to expect better. I guess that way they are never disappointed nt pragmatic_dem Apr 2014 #38
Money Buys Advertising, and "Swing Voters" are Easily Swayed by the Tee Vee AndyTiedye Apr 2014 #16
I love Bernie Sanders. He would make a good president because he cares about the American JDPriestly Apr 2014 #17
PLUS A BRAZILLION! Enthusiast Apr 2014 #20
He's got my vote already nikto Apr 2014 #18
This post is short of hundreds of recommendations. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #21
Go Bernie! democrank Apr 2014 #22
depends on what he means by "we" and "they" rehabanderson Apr 2014 #23
I wonder what percentage of people fall for propaganda? fasttense Apr 2014 #24
They got the guns RandoLoodie Apr 2014 #30
I want to believe him. Broke and poor as many voters are, they could be bought for a mess of pottage ancianita Apr 2014 #31
But sadly ignorant of reality Egnever Apr 2014 #32
K&R raouldukelives Apr 2014 #33
They've also got about 50% of the people too taught_me_patience Apr 2014 #35
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2014 #36
One Way or Another He Will Be Right colsohlibgal Apr 2014 #37
Sounds good... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2014 #39

elleng

(141,926 posts)
1. Very strong statement,
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 03:43 PM
Apr 2014

but not sure how accurate it is, at this time of widespread propaganda.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
28. Thank God it isn't $1 = 1 vote
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 12:56 PM
Apr 2014

But it isn't - it's 1 PERSON. 1 vote. I think this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that corporations are NOT people!

randr

(12,620 posts)
2. Only if they vote
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 03:45 PM
Apr 2014

Given the younger voter turn out in the last off year election, I am not holding my breath.
For a generation that like to blame all their problems on the generations before them, they have a bit of catching up to do.
The future of the world is in their hands and all they have to do is vote.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
14. Or start something else. Not sure what that would be, but playing this game may be 4 losers. n/t
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:41 PM
Apr 2014
 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
25. They did that in '08. Elected Obama with a majority in the House and a super in the Senate...
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 07:33 AM
Apr 2014

Nothing really changed. Obama, like Bush and virtually everyone in Washington, works for the same corporations. In hindsight it's pretty obvious, but young people can be forgiven their cynicism and indifference.

randr

(12,620 posts)
26. The struggle for a democratic nation is endless
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 09:07 AM
Apr 2014

Neither side is perfect but the differences are obvious.
Pick a side and stay vigilant.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
34. As One Who IS Most Definitely To THE LEFT...
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 02:44 PM
Apr 2014

and one who has had many "hair on fire" days with this administration, maybe some of our Representatives & Senators might be fed up enough now and might be more willing to fight.

I've skirted away from using the word HOPE when talking or posting for a very long time, but I do wish my statement will come true. The only way to know for sure is to VOTE and get others to VOTE for more Democrats. Do I wish we had more choices, YES! However, we are pretty much stuck with what we have and the alternative choice is far too scary and disastrous!

Given where I live any attempts to get a candidate other than Repuke elected isn't possible so I'll have to work to get rid of Rick Scott as my top priority. Also, the Florida Democratic Party has been pretty lame IMO, so I suppose it's up to "we the people" here to push forward!

At this point in time I don't think Rick Scott is quacking in his boots as he may be sensing that Democrats don't really want to vote for Crist. So even though I think some Democrats in D.C may be opening their eyes, I do feel Florida could be an opportunity missed. Crist was a more moderate Repuke Governor, but I hearing grumblings from Democrats here who may not vote! It happened when he ran against Rubio so I remain worried.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
29. It should be impressed on them
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 12:58 PM
Apr 2014

that this may be their ONLY opportunity to escape from a very dark future. If we can make it seem to be a life and death issue, which it has been proven to be - and we have government statistics to back us up - hopefully we can all get out enforce in November.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
5. The money buys ads and media exposure
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 03:47 PM
Apr 2014

And the people respond to that. So maybe they should look in the mirror.

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
8. I Hope it Doesn't Turn out Like
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 03:52 PM
Apr 2014

Back in an end of a Chinese Dynasty, when a dynasty FUBARred everything, a Chinese poet (Li Po?) remarked "If only the PEOPLE were allowed to solve our problems, we wouldn't be in this mess."

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
12. Actually....
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 04:56 PM
Apr 2014

younger, poorer and less affluent voters DO outvote the wealthy....and it's been documented. We just have to keep it up.


Interesting to note...all the heavy hitter donors that are actually politically speaking, fence sitters: https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php

 

pragmatic_dem

(410 posts)
15. we need people like him in democratic party instead of the blue dog conservatives
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:43 PM
Apr 2014

leadership is investing in.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
27. There is one lesson Bernie gives us that many don't quite understand.
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 12:10 PM
Apr 2014

Party doesn't matter, vote for the best possible candidate and you have a chance to get the best candidate possible.

Vote for bad and the best you can expect to get is bad.
Vote for a little better than bad and the best you can hope for is to get a little better than bad.
But if you vote for the best, then you have a chance to get the best.
Vermont understands it, I wish the rest of the Country did.

AndyTiedye

(23,538 posts)
16. Money Buys Advertising, and "Swing Voters" are Easily Swayed by the Tee Vee
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:56 PM
Apr 2014

The Tee Vee will be saturated with GOP advertising and GOP-leaning programming,
more than it has ever been before because they have access to so much more money now.

This is going to be an extremely difficult election for us. I hope Bernie is right.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
17. I love Bernie Sanders. He would make a good president because he cares about the American
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 11:45 PM
Apr 2014

people and about America. I believe he will put Americans first. And he should. That is the job of the President of the United States.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
20. PLUS A BRAZILLION!
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 05:05 AM
Apr 2014

The main quality we want in a president is that he genuinely cares about the American people.

Last election we knew for absolute certain that Romney did not give one fuck about the American people.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
24. I wonder what percentage of people fall for propaganda?
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 07:22 AM
Apr 2014

In the old Soviet Union, very few people believed the propaganda. I think here in the US, many, many people fall for the propaganda. I think Americans are more easily manipulated.

ancianita

(42,960 posts)
31. I want to believe him. Broke and poor as many voters are, they could be bought for a mess of pottage
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 01:06 PM
Apr 2014

though.

All I ask is, where are the lawyers who love the law and the American people. Where will be the election observers in battleground states -- where are they now, when laws are passed disallowing going to the bathroom while voters are made to wait hours and hours to vote.

Why is the legal system allowing the voting system to be shut down. If that continues, his statement might be the naive, ironic one of this upcoming campaign.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
32. But sadly ignorant of reality
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 01:08 PM
Apr 2014

There are many examples throughout history of money forming the opinions of the people. The public is easily manipulated.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
33. K&R
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 01:14 PM
Apr 2014

However if those people are donating money to mutual funds before they stand with progressives they are already doing all they can to drown out our message.
There are those that GOTV and those that fund corporate attacks against GOTV. Some do both, but with a lot of door to door campaigning, they can possibly make it a break even situation for us.

colsohlibgal

(5,276 posts)
37. One Way or Another He Will Be Right
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 03:36 PM
Apr 2014

Sooner or later, as inequality gets worse and worse, the people will rise up. Sooner or later eating cat food and shivering because you can't afford heat, etc., will trump caring about who marries who and that stuff.

Maybe it won't have to go that far, a lot of old white men die every year and that will keep changing our nation's makeup.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
39. Sounds good...
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 12:47 AM
Apr 2014

but 1 person giving $10 million has WAYYYY more influence than 10 million giving $1 each. We are a plutocracy.

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