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Bolo Boffin

(23,872 posts)
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 03:28 PM Dec 2011

President Obama just called out Speaker Boehner over Payroll Tax Increase

Last edited Tue Dec 20, 2011, 05:36 PM - Edit history (1)

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/12/obama-team-urges-house-to-vote-on-payroll-tax-cut/1

President Obama blasted House Republicans today for rejecting a Senate plan to extend the payroll tax cut for two months, saying that "a faction" of the GOP is forcing a tax hike on Americans next year.

The Senate plan is "the only viable way to prevent a tax cut on Jan. 1," Obama said at the White House. "The clock is ticking. Time is running out."

In his brief remarks, Obama basically rejected House Speaker John Boehner's request that the White House support new House-Senate talks for a one-year extension of the payroll tax cut.

..."Let's not play brinksmanship," Obama said. "The American people are tired of it."


Thank you, Mr. President.

ETA: As pointed out below, the actual quote of the President in that USA Today story should read, "Right now, the bipartisan compromise that was reached on Saturday is the only viable way to prevent a tax hike on January 1st. It’s the only one." Emphasis mine.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/12/20/remarks-president-payroll-tax-cut
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President Obama just called out Speaker Boehner over Payroll Tax Increase (Original Post) Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 OP
K+R Richardo Dec 2011 #1
This is a good place for rhetorical excess cthulu2016 Dec 2011 #2
I took almost 3 years ... Cigar11 Dec 2011 #3
Ooops! I wish he'd said, "to prevent a tax increase on Jan. 1." pnwmom Dec 2011 #4
He did. GoCubsGo Dec 2011 #8
Looks like the OP apparently quoted the article incorrectly. DURHAM D Dec 2011 #10
USA Today fixed the quote. I cut-and-pasted before that happened. n/t Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #14
"a faction" of the GOP = the tea party and their willing puppet Boehner. n/t deacon Dec 2011 #5
Sometimes the only way to win the game Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2011 #6
I sure as hell hope so. GoCubsGo Dec 2011 #7
Thumbs up for "Blubbering Human Cheeto". 11 Bravo Dec 2011 #15
You need to edit your second paragraph. DURHAM D Dec 2011 #9
It's a quote from USA Today. Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #12
I'm Confused RobinA Dec 2011 #11
Any shortfalls are being made up by funds from the General account. Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #13
I agree HuskiesHowls Dec 2011 #16
"Everybody" did NOT say that, actually MH1 Dec 2011 #17
Yeah, what you said. tavalon Dec 2011 #19
BINGO. FedUp_Queer Dec 2011 #23
I changed my mind on that Enrique Dec 2011 #24
Well, he's playing pretty good politics and he doesn't always tavalon Dec 2011 #18
More Harsh Johnny2X2X Dec 2011 #20
How badly broken our politics are. ChadwickHenryWard Dec 2011 #21
Everybody seems to be disgusted with the House Republicans. Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #22

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
2. This is a good place for rhetorical excess
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 03:34 PM
Dec 2011

I know the president doesn't like to be harsh, but this is an excellent place to go a little over the top.

When you are right in every way on an issue and supported by amost the entire nation and the issue is THE SIZE OF EVERYONE'S NEXT PAYCHECK then go for it! Demonize the opponant. Fix blame harshly.

There's no danger of blow-back on this particular issue.

Cigar11

(549 posts)
3. I took almost 3 years ...
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 03:34 PM
Dec 2011

But its about FORKING TIME the President stop take SHEET fro these AzzHoles!

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,967 posts)
6. Sometimes the only way to win the game
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 04:55 PM
Dec 2011

is to not play it. Boehner fought hard to get a Republican majority in the House and get elected Speaker. It's his responsibility to lead. The failings of members of Congress cannot and should not be perpetually dropped in Obama's lap. Furthermore, yeah, I think that everybody is sick and tired of all of this ridiculous "brinksmanship." Thank you, Mr. President!

GoCubsGo

(34,934 posts)
7. I sure as hell hope so.
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 04:57 PM
Dec 2011

And, good for him for doing so immediately after the Blubbering Human Cheeto spewed his BS.

DURHAM D

(33,062 posts)
9. You need to edit your second paragraph.
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 05:08 PM
Dec 2011

"prevent a tax cut" should be "prevent a tax hike"

In the words of Pretty Woman Julia Roberts: Big mistake. Big mistake.

Bolo Boffin

(23,872 posts)
12. It's a quote from USA Today.
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 05:34 PM
Dec 2011

I'll check the White House site, but you're right, that should be the other way around.

RobinA

(10,478 posts)
11. I'm Confused
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 05:28 PM
Dec 2011

When Obama originally went for this SS tax cut extension (in July or whatever) everybody complained that it was a backdoor attempt to gut social security by making the "social security is bankrupt" lie a reality by defunding it.

Why is this tax "cut" not still defunding social security? I, for one, am sticking to my original view that this so-called cut is bad for social security and should be done away with. No two months, no two years, get rid of it now and restore funding to SS.

Bolo Boffin

(23,872 posts)
13. Any shortfalls are being made up by funds from the General account.
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 05:37 PM
Dec 2011

No gutting of Social Security is happening.

HuskiesHowls

(739 posts)
16. I agree
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 10:11 PM
Dec 2011

Even if they are making up the shortfall from general funds--it won't take long until the Republicans take away that funding, and then SS WILL be in trouble!!

This "tax cut" was not a good idea. Do away with the cap on income, then there won't be any problems funding social security. I've even heard people in the 1% say that!!!

MH1

(19,170 posts)
17. "Everybody" did NOT say that, actually
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 11:50 PM
Dec 2011

The tax rate should be permanently cut and the cap raised enough to achieve the necessary revenue. Doing so will lower taxes on lower income workers and slightly raise taxes on higher income workers. (Progressive, right?) But due to the recession now is not a great time to raise the cap. It can be done a year or two from now and if it's calculated right it can also extend SS solvency significantly past the current forecast.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
24. I changed my mind on that
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 02:24 PM
Dec 2011

so many credible people (credible to me anyway) argued in favor of the short-term cuts as stimulus that I was convinced. People that imo know the importance of Social Security. I'm still worried about long-term, however.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
18. Well, he's playing pretty good politics and he doesn't always
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 11:40 AM
Dec 2011

That said, after some thought, I'm not for this "payroll tax relief". I feel like DC has once again wrestled the conversation back to what they want to talk about and in the way they want to talk about it. Yeah, so it isn't going to impact Social Security because it will come out of the general fund, whatever that amorphous thing is. I can guarantee our warmongering isn't coming out of the general fund. Leave the payroll tax and remove the cap, completely.

Yep, I said it.

Johnny2X2X

(24,243 posts)
20. More Harsh
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 12:07 PM
Dec 2011

I think he needs to be even more forceful. State that they are putting special interests ahead of working people again and state that this is a blatant attempt to hurt the economy in 2012 in an effort to win the White House. People need to hear him call it like it is.

ChadwickHenryWard

(862 posts)
21. How badly broken our politics are.
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 12:33 PM
Dec 2011

The President is bending over backwards to give them concessions, and they are rejecting them in favor nothing. In what universe is that smart politics? The President is giving them everything they want; how can they possibly reject it? In exchange for sticking to their guns, they get increased taxes? How does that work for them?

Bolo Boffin

(23,872 posts)
22. Everybody seems to be disgusted with the House Republicans.
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 12:53 PM
Dec 2011

When you're a Republican and you've lost the WSJ editorial page and the National Review...

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