Greenwald demands that Snowden leak Russia's domestic spying evidence to the public

[Polito Vega]

http://www.businessinsider.com/glenn-greenwald-defends-snowden-putin-pr-stunt-2014-4

"Snowden should storm the Kremlin, take their surveillance docs & demand to be sent to the US: just like his brave patriotic critics would do," Greenwald wrote. 

I think NSA apologists were just made fun of.

[Egnever]

1. I dont get it

[Maedhros]

2. The title of the OP (and the link) is somewhat misleading.

The title of the article at Business Insider is:

Glenn Greenwald Mocks Snowden Critics After Putin PR Stunt

The article is essentially a re-tweet:

On Twitter, Greenwald took a jab at those who would suggest the appearance proves Snowden, who took refuge in Moscow after being charged under the espionage act last June, is a Russian intelligence asset.

"Snowden should storm the Kremlin, take their surveillance docs & demand to be sent to the US: just like his brave patriotic critics would do," Greenwald wrote.

[uppityperson]

4. Thank you for the correct title and synopsis of what the article is.

Seriously, thank you

[MADem]

3. I think Snowden just came out as a Putin Puppet.

Either that, or he's a Putin Prisoner, forced to recite lines and participate in public morality plays at the whim of the ruler.

And Glenn is trying, with Twitterish flop-sweat desperation, to put a good face on a bad situation! That kind of "suck-upage" doesn't do much for the independence of one's source. For whatever reasons, Eddie is serving somebody, and it looks like that somebody is Putin.

Glenn Greenwald, the reporter who published many of the first news stories based on National Security Agency surveillance leaks last summer, took to Twitter on Thursday to address a TV appearance that the source of the NSA documents, Edward Snowden, made alongside Russian President Vladimir Putin Thursday.
In the appearance, described by many observers as a brazen public relations move by the Russian government, Snowden asked Putin about Russia's surveillance programs. Putin responded that Russia does not have mass surveillance along the lines of what Snowden exposed at the NSA because its intelligence agencies operate within a strict legal framework and do not have the same technical or financial resources as their American counterparts.

On Twitter, Greenwald took a jab at those who would suggest the appearance proves Snowden, who took refuge in Moscow after being charged under the espionage act last June, is a Russian intelligence asset.

"Snowden should storm the Kremlin, take their surveillance docs & demand to be sent to the US: just like his brave patriotic critics would do," Greenwald wrote. ...

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/glenn-greenwald-defends-snowden-putin-pr-stunt-2014-4#ixzz2zAcl2nJX

It's an Eddie and Vlad "Nothing To See Here, Move Along!" sideshow.

We know what a "truth teller" Pootie is--remember, he's the guy who said there were no Russian troops in the Crimea, until he changed his mind and admitted it.

[MohRokTah]

8. ^^ This. eom

[Whisp]

12. excellent... you have Such a way with words, MADem.

[BeyondGeography]

5. Greenie just reinforced the opposite of what he was trying to say

Awesome.

[stevenleser]

6. Greenwald realized what the effect would be of that Putin apologia by Snowden.

It says more that Greenwald issued this pre-emptive tweet than what the tweet actually says.

This apologia of Russian surveillance of their people is extremely damaging to Snowden and debunks the idea that his motives were to expose a states' surveillance of its people.

Snowden clearly doesn't care about that in the case of Russia.

The question then becomes, if he only seems to care about it happening in the US and is an apologist for it in Russia, what was his true motivation? Was the data even real?

Or, is it as simple as Snowden hates the US or Obama or both and wanted to hurt the US and make Russia look good?

[randome]

9. Yes, the pre-emptive aspect says a lot, doesn't it?

Greenwald may not have gotten as many congratulatory phone calls as he expected for his Pulitzer. And now Snowden is inching the spotlight away.
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[MohRokTah]

7. Greenwald is just throwing another hissy fit.

Not to mention saying the exact opposite of what you are claiming he said.

I believe you still have time to delete this post.

[sufrommich]

10. He looks like he's admitting that crossing Putin would

be detrimental to Snowden' s health to me.Being Putin's useful idiot is dangerous work apparently.

[bunnies]

11. uh, no. He should simply avoid being Putins puppet.

What a dumb thing to say.

[Polito Vega]

13. If Snowden had not asked Putin about spying, you would still call him puppet

Or you can say that's oh so untrue.

[bunnies]

16. I havent called him a puppet before.

But obvious puppet show is obvious.

[chrisa]

19. Pretty much this.

[Whisp]

14. Greenwald pouting for attention because his Putzer prize, or whatever it was

didn't give him enough ugly face time in the media?

Clue to GG: You are boring and obnoxious, and stupid to boot.

[MADem]

27. Well, his prize is being besmirched as well...!

Yeah, he got the story about the NSA geek who ran with the goods.

But did he MISS the story that the geek who ran with the goods had a boss in Russia all along?

That's what is probably keeping him up at night. To say nothing of composing angry tweets.

People forget that Snowden went to Hong Kong because he had BEEN THERE BEFORE. On VACATION....back when he had that job in Japan!!

And people also forget that when Snowden went to ground in Hong Kong, he hid out in the RUSSIAN EMBASSY.

I tend to add up one and one and get two. I don't think GG did that, he was so eager to get the "easy" parts of this story.

[arely staircase]

15. Snowden should ask Putin staged questions on state tv

oh wait, nevermind

[JNelson6563]

17. Wow, 17 posts and already posting divisive OPs. De ja vu all over again...

or something.

[uppityperson]

18. hi, have you done a term on

MIRT yet? I can not remember who all has, but they put up the announcement for new sign up today. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10133761

[JNelson6563]

21. I have but thanks for the irrelevent question.

Fyi, I won't be kicking this bucket-of-chum thread again.

Julie--stepping out of mud-pit

[alcibiades_mystery]

22. "Long time lurker, 17th time poster..."

[FSogol]

24. What salty snack goes well with beer?

[MADem]

28. Those sound like "fighting" words...!

[hedda_foil]

34. Try again, Al. Julie has over 25,000 posts.

You're reacting to the 17th post on this thread, not Julie's 17th post. She's been a DUer back as far as I can remember andi I've been here since 2001.

[alcibiades_mystery]

35. Er, um, er, nope

I'm referring to the OP, who had 17 posts when I posted that, as Julie herself mentions in the post I'm replying to!

I've been here since 2001 in various user names, too.

[alcibiades_mystery]

36. I just received the following bizarre threat via PM from a user who will remain unnamed

"with your many former DU accounts you shouldn't be so haughty. do you want me to name them all in that thread? I have PMs from you listing all of them."

For the record, I started here at markses in June or July of 2001.

I then used the name onemore from probably 2003-2005.

I think I've been a good citizen here since 2005 at the least, but a dedicated DUer since before 9/11. if somebody wants to threaten on that or ban me for previous accounts, that's obviously their prerogative, but I won't be threatened by jackasses in this manner.

Cheers to all non-jackasses.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

20. Are the reporters who ask Obama the same questions and get the same answers Obama puppets?

[MADem]

29. So Snowden is now a "reporter" is that what you're suggesting?

Now that's funny!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

31. No. I'm asking if reporters asking he same questions of Obama and

getting the same answers are "puppets" or "tools"?

Both Putin and Obama denied or rationalized mass surveillance when asked similar questions. Do you believe either of them?

[MADem]

32. You are comparing reporters to Snowden, and Obama to Putin.

Snowden isn't a reporter.

He reads his lines, though.

[gcomeau]

30. If you can't tell the difference between that and what just happened on Russian TV...

...then I fear for you. I really do.

[frazzled]

23. I think Greenwald just jumped the shark

(no handclapping smilie necessary).

[dipsydoodle]

25. Strongly suggest some here read the actual headline at the link.

.

[TwilightGardener]

26. Snowden--known Russian propagandist, traitor. Greenwald, his chief enabler,

looking like a giant ass. It's all good.

[Thinkingabout]

33. Now it woulx fit GG's need to get Putin mad at Snowden

Snowden doesn't have a valid passport and airlines are not letting him board, if Snowden really pisses Putin then Sowden just may never make a other appearance. GG gets to keep the gained money and the patsy is out of the picture.