Senator Reid-WON'T BACK DOWN-Explains WHY Armed Militia At Bundy Ranch Are "Domestic Terrorists"
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Harry Reid appeared on local television Friday night to explain his reasoning behind the claim that the armed militia members at Bundy Ranch are domestic terrorists.
Senator Reid tells the truth
The simplicity of his answer took the entire table by surprise, I think, because there were a couple of beats of silence before the other host asked him to expand on his thoughts, which he also did.
Aside: Perhaps it would be good for the press to actually Google the term so they understood the definition before asking such a stupid question.
Reid: The National Cattlemen's Association has a wonderful branch in Nevada. I met with them last week. They pay their taxes. They pay their fees. They follow the law.
Bundy doesn't believe the American government is valid, he believes the United States is a foreign government. He doesn't pay his taxes. He doesn't follow the law. He doesn't pay his fees.
And, if anyone thinks, by any figment of their imagination that what happened up there was just people rallying to someone who was oppressed, 600 people came in. Armed. They had practiced, they had maneuvered, they knew what they were doing. They set up snipers in strategic locations with sniper rifles. They had assault weapons. They had automatic weapons, and they boasted about the fact that they put women and children -- in fact, one retired sheriff from Arizona boasted that he put women and children so they would get hit first.
MORE plus video:
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/04/harry-reid-if-these-people-are-patriots
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UPDATES:
Paul to Reid: Cool it on Bundy ranch
"I don't think calling people names is going to calm this down," Paul said on Fox News. "I think it's liable to stir it up. So I think all parties, including Sen. Reid, should calm the rhetoric a little bit. Let's try to have a peaceful resolution to this."
more reason for Reid to NOT BACK DOWN:
Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/203860-paul-tells-reid-to-cool-rhetoric-on-nevada-ranch-dispute#ixzz2zLBwMFjY
GOP Sen: Bundy Ranch Supporters Are 'Patriots,' Not 'Domestic Terrorists'
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/gop-sen-bundy-ranch-supporters-are-patriots-not-domestic-terrorists
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We already know that answer
the subject of land ownership, especially in the American west? I know it's complicated (not like buying a house or lot) and involves mineral, grazing, water and other rights. Bundy owns the water rights and in the west that makes him the owner of the land, I believe (need a rancher or rural western person to weigh in). He's also not a member of the Nevada Cattle Ranchers Association who pay the fees to the BLM who are hired for some land management and assistance to ranchers. There are also lawsuits, from environmental groups, ranchers and tribes against the BLM and Dept of Interior over trying to steal water for the city of Las Vegas. There's a LOT more going on here than the general public knows or is being told. Water rights are serious shit in the west. People who live on land, are connected to that land, and make their living on it, are much more invested in the good practices of the use of that land than any mega corporations, casinos and distant municipalities. I think there's a good possibility that stealing water is what's behind all this and Las Vegas wastes a shitload of water in an arid region where water is especially precious - and they want MORE.
Federal lawsuits seek to punch holes in $15 billion Las Vegas pipeline plan
Las Vegas water managers first floated plans to tap rural groundwater in 1989. It is now being pushed as a way to supply future demand and provide a back-up supply to a community that relies on the overdrawn and drought-stricken Colorado River for 90 percent of its water.
The project is expected to reach as far north as Great Basin National Park, cost as much as $15 billion and take a decade or more to build.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/federal-lawsuits-seek-punch-holes-15-billion-las-vegas-pipeline-plan
We're talking about BIG money with Las Vegas and as we know, money talks. Many a politician and judge has been bought by it.
My all time favorite film is Chinatown which is about this very subject. If people haven't seen it, they should.
This. 
I read it before but couldn't believe someone would do that much less admit it.. I mean really.. how damn dumb do you have to be?
These sore losers haven't gotten over that loss in 150 years.
The South is not just in the Deep South like Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, The Carolinas, & Tennessee.
Historically Southerners moved out West to gain more land & in effect gain more political power in the House of Representatives through the 3/5 rule.
More land, more slaves, more representation, more control over the government.
That's why you hear a hatred of Mexicans too with this group on "illegal immigration" (Canadians can't illegally immigrate?).
Mexicans, a mixture of Native American & Spanish heritages, once lived on the lands with those Mexica/Spanish names like Texas, Arizona, California, Nevada, Colorado.
Hell one of them is directly called New Mexico!
The Mexican War was just a land grab by Southerners just like Texas was.
Pushing Natives off their land rhymes right with the Trail of Tears that pushed groups like the Cherokee from Georgia to Oklahoma.
That's why the music is called Country/Western.
Different variations of the same group of people.
The South is in the Southeast AND the Southwest.
When the Southern Confederacy got their asses handed to them in the 1860s, they were not satisfied with the results in the least & have been harboring revenge fantasies ever since.
They passed on this cultural spite to their descendants & look for any opportunity to get back at the Union one way or another.
Either by screwing with the lives of the descendants of the former slaves, demonizing the Natives (Amerinds like the Mexicans), defying the direction set by the Federal Government.
They prefer to sabotage, disrupt, & ruin in their spitefulness.
They'll put Nixons, Reagans, & Bushes in office to dismantle the government from the inside.
And they'll employ a host of tactics like this Bundy Ranch nonsense to dismantle the government from the outside.
That's what this militia/secession/rebellion nonsense is all about.
And with the very symbol of their comeuppance represented by the Black President Barack Obama, it amplifies the spiteful rebellion more than ever before.
The Hannitys of the world—media spokespersons of the Confederacy—want to have this Bundy Ranch fiasco be the spark that sets off the New Civil War.
The New War Between the States.
You wonder why many poor White folks in these regions so consistently vote against their financial interests?
It's because they're voting for the interest of Confederacy's Revenge.
They don't care if they go down with the ship just as long as they take you down with them.
In fact, their daily struggles make them hungrier & meaner to enact a vengeful mindset.
When that 1860s war started up, the Confederate flag looked pretty much like the so-called "Betsy Ross" 1776 flag with the stars in a circle and the red & white stripes on the side (Check the Wiki & see for yourself).
First National Flag of the C.S.A.—the Confederate States of America
The "Betsy Ross" 1776 Flag of the U.S.A.—the United States of America
To me, that shows that the Confederacy thinks that they are the REAL United States of America & this other entity calling themselves the United States of America is a fraud.
The flags were so similar that they designed that famous battle flag from Virginia & made it the new national flag.
The Big X pattern of battle flag was more symbolic of the region's spitefulness & bitterness so it was a natural fit.
The Democratic Party which once was the storehouse & lifeforce of this spiteful faction atoned from its past with the actions of Frank Roosevelt, Harry Truman, John Kennedy, & Lyndon Johnson.
The Republican Party which once opposed that faction sold itself out by absorbing them into its very being so it can stay in power.
After that 1964 purging by the hands of LBJ, that Confederate movement could have dissipated into uselessness without an organized structure to operate from.
Instead the Republican Party ironically revitalized the force it once tried to destroy.
Now we see the results.
All of this stuff is connected. There are no coincidences here.
Every Southerner today may not subscribe to this mindset but many still do.
On paper the Civil War has LONG been over.
But in these people's minds the war has never stopped.
Rebellion by firearms, by legal maneuver, by attitudes.
It doesn't matter so long as it's a rebellion.
In their minds, the Confederacy will have its Revenge.
The South Shall Rise Again.
John Lucas
