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The latest instance of eye-opening art spectacle comes to us courtesy of Swiss artist Milo Moire. During this year's Art Cologne fair in Germany, she "gave birth" to an artwork by seemingly squeezing paint eggs out of her vagina onto an empty canvas. She did so in a very public space outside the fair, providing unsuspecting passersby with a visual overload of a nude woman laboring -- quite literally -- for the sake of art.
"The 'PlopEgg Painting'...releases a loose chain of thoughts -- about the creation fear, the symbolic strength of the casual and the creative power of the femininity," the video's description reads. "At the end of this almost meditative art birth performance the stained canvas is folded up, smoothed and unfolded to a symmetrically reflected picture, astonishingly coloured and full of [strength]."
Moire is no stranger to boundary-pushing performance. For her "Script System" piece, the artist rode public transit in her birthday suit, surprising more than a few commuters with her unabashed nudity. She follows in the footsteps of a long line of provocative artists -- Marina Abramovic, Yoko Ono, Franco B -- who have used forms of nudity as a means of artistic disruption.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/19/milo-moire_n_5174257.html
Video is NSFW.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)the true artist, however, paints with their nose, on the canvas of the handkerchief...
Oh, and of course "wiping their ass on the flag."
eridani
(51,907 posts)Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)If ever there was one!
eShirl
(20,223 posts)Kaleva
(40,342 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Kaleva
(40,342 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Freedom wins
Warpy
(114,585 posts)but I'd have voted to leave it, too.
If she wasn't showing her titties, nobody would look. As it is, few do. That's because it's just so wrong.
I've just decided not to share the video of 3 assless young chicks twerking to classical music. That's wrong, too.
Trailrider1951
(3,581 posts)Warpy, you're a treasure!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)but du... ya, one of our guys that fight most against womens issues consistently, is here cheering his ability to get it thru jury.
whatta man
Warpy
(114,585 posts)so everybody knows exactly where the poster is at.
Remember, some people teach best by bad example.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)Warpy
(114,585 posts)I've got proxies to work on before I bother fixing the glitch.
However, other people might appreciate the learning experience you have provided.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)judging by the warmhearted learning experience I had when I watched it.
One of these guys.. except an adult.

Warpy
(114,585 posts)which, believe me, was not nearly as bad as the video that provoked it.
I'll watch it when I've coped with the glitch.
TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)...and I have no problem with videos.
TYY
lillypaddle
(9,606 posts)made me LOL.
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)Germany has extreme sexual stuff, this literally wouldn't cause most Germans to bat an eye. Especially outside of an art facility? Pfft.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts):/
bobGandolf
(871 posts)1000words
(7,051 posts)TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)...the Vaginal Knitter.

TYY
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)intaglio
(8,170 posts)... the rope burn could have been terrible
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)d_b
(7,463 posts)gtfo
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)joshcryer
(62,536 posts)YouTube allows speech / art nudity.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)duh and derp.
Throd
(7,208 posts)kiawah
(64 posts)Gman
(24,780 posts)No, it's not art in any way, shape or form. The woman needs to be in serious therapy.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)performance art --ever since the 60's --involving the body that's pretty disgusting and kinda primitive. By men and women. It's almost traditional by now.
It's still performance art. Kinda gross, like pole-dancing and other funky body stuff ...
whistler162
(11,155 posts)say it is "performance" art it isn't. They aren't artists they aren't creating art. Too many people are the emperor from the "Emperor's New Clothes".
1000words
(7,051 posts)The very fact you weighed in with an opinion means not only did you give it validation, you've become part of the creation.
ProfessorGAC
(76,622 posts)Eliciting a response is the intent of all performance and all art of all media. So the suggestion that the elicitation of a response automatically makes it art is intellectually lazy and far too convenient.
I've heard this excuse so many times that it is clearly the standard response. Sorry if it seems like i'm hammering you. I'm more hammering the weak typical rejoinder.
This is not art. It's not performance art. And simply getting a rise out of people doesn't make it art. The Boston bombers got a rise out of people too. That doesn't make it art.
1000words
(7,051 posts)Like a prostitute.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)"It's not art" is not really relevant.
What does matter is to say why to you it's not good or important art. Why does it not rise to the level of what you call worthwhile art? No point in arguing over whether or not it falls in the realm or category of performance art. Enough people in the field have decided that it does.
Just trying to help you avoid tired, standard, typical responses when you see art you don't like.
ProfessorGAC
(76,622 posts)I tried to help people quit using "tired, standard, typical responses" to explain to us plebians why something is art when there the artistic value is not apparent.
I don't need to be treated like an uneducated buffoon because i don't understand. I understand the attempt completely. I don't believe it's art.
Your approval is not required to validate the opinions of others.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)and I can't educate anybody who's not open to dialogue.
People can take it or leave it. I can only argue my side of the issues. I try to make what I say on this topic accessible to others, because there are a LOT of people who are mystified about art these days, and I don't blame them. It's an esoteric subject, and if you haven't been exposed to it much, you might have some questions about it. (rhetorical "you"--do I need to say that?)
But you choose to take my effort to be all-inclusive as dumbing it down to you personally. That doesn't seem logical to me. I don't have any need to do that nor do I think you're an "uneducated buffoon." You must be a professor
so you can't be uneducated. All I know about you from this is you have a bee in your bonnet about "what art is." I really don't. I just enjoy chatting about it with anybody, and I hope more people--especially intelligent liberals--keep an open mind about it.
Nowhere in this thread have I set myself up as an authority. I just make the case that art professionals--curators, critics, art writers, museum directors, galleries, educators, etc--have a weight of authority on their side about "what is art." They do get to define it within the cultural institutions they inhabit. They do get to select. They do get to validate it, with proper documentation and explanation. You may not agree with their choices and that's your right. Sure there are bad movies, bad books, bad art. But it's still film, literature and art. I am suggesting to critique it, but not resort to the lame "it's not art" put-down just because you don't personally like it.
Saying you "don't believe it's art"--sounds authoritarian for no good reason.
If there's anything more to say, say it. Otherwise let's let it go. It's only art. Can't hurt ya.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)
Artist Spencer Tunick, 2010
demwing
(16,916 posts)The rules were simple:
1. If you think about "The Game" you're playing "The Game"
2. If you're playing "The Game," you've lost "The Game."
3. The only way to win "The Game" is to ignore "The Game"
Either my 10 year old son was a brilliant performance artist, or performance art has all the emotional maturity of an adolescent boy, developmentally situated somewhere between picking his nose in public and masturbating in the shower.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)and I'm sure you were proud of him then and now.
His "rules" apply to many things.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)We've all now just lost the Game. :/
(lol)
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)about what is art than yours. Might not be good art, but it is in the realm of art.
Anyway--is it art? is a tired debate.
Just take it at face value and don't feel the need to reject it on that basis. Reject it on some basis that makes more sense.
Gman
(24,780 posts)that ain't art in any way shape or form. It's a pity someone wound have such low standards that they would call this art.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)and that's OK. But by some people's definition, it is. I don't love it--but I defend it as performance art. It does make the viewer think about things they wouldn't think about otherwise. Yes, it exhibitionistic, maybe narcissistic, maybe even boring. But these body oriented performances do have a long history in the realm of art. You and I probably wouldn't agree on what is interesting and what is a waste of time. Live and let live. Art is all about being open and tolerant. It's just art. Doesn't hurt anybody. Totally optional.
But thanks for weighing in on it. It always makes sense to talk about reactions to this kind of stuff. Better to have an opinion than no opinion at all.
1000words
(7,051 posts)Ignoring it.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)--we are what we choose to pay attention to. Every day I see or hear stuff I choose to ignore. This is no different.
At least if you don't like it, it's temporary. It's the stuff that's NOT temporary that bothers me.
Gman
(24,780 posts)Cheers!
Marr
(20,317 posts)That's everything from sprinkles on cookies to chalk doodles to sculpture. That doesn't mean it's worth examining, of course.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)there's all sorts of artforms--cooking, gardening, parenting, carpentry, medicine, etc. Anything creative beyond survival basics qualifies in the broad definition.
In this thread we're talking about what elevates this performance piece to the level of Art, of the kind that is exhibited or performed for no "useful" purpose. Art --as an expression of thought or emotion. Art that provokes a response in the viewer. Art that is created for no other purpose than to communicate something of value. Art that feeds the soul or the head. Art is no longer essential or practical in the way that it was before photography, or when it was mainly a vehicle for religious imagery. These days art can be, but never has to be, practical in any way. It has a function in the culture, in that it creates experience and extends dialogue about the human condition.
So it's a narrower definition here. But, good point. No form or material is too lowly to be called art. Just depends what you do with it.
Marr
(20,317 posts)Some people just love attention.
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)As are Mary Cassatt, Artemisia Gentileschi, Suzanne Valadon and Rosa Bonheur, to mention only a few of the great women artists.
Warpy
(114,585 posts)What a waste of good materials.
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pipi_k
(21,020 posts)You know what's really impressive?
Eating a box of Crayolas and shitting out the Mona Lisa.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)rrneck
(17,671 posts)gave himself paint enemas and, um, expelled the medium onto canvas. My first thought was, "Any asshole can do that".
eridani
(51,907 posts)undeterred
(34,658 posts)The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)This is pretty tame in comparison
Gman
(24,780 posts)If that's the case.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Doing something you think will shock isn't being avant garde.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Shock isn't really cutting edge in art anymore. We are all more shock-resistant. Artists have to work really hard at it if that's the goal. Still possible, but you see a lot of half-baked attempts.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)And to think, Kotex's get thrown away.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)a bummer!
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)--not a new theme. This woman is following in Carolee Schneemann's footsteps ( a famous 60's-70's performance artist), and others.
I don't think it's nearly as shocking today as then, but still makes a point about the female body and how we view it.
1000words
(7,051 posts)and gimmick will give way to cliché.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)As far as public nudity I find this artist Spencer Tunick much more interesting (LOTS of his pix at this link:
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/07/the-naked-world-of-spencer-tunick/100344/

1000words
(7,051 posts)EX500rider
(12,562 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)and I think it was 7-0 to stand.
1000words
(7,051 posts)The link to Tunick's photography?
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)it claimed to be a TOS violation in the posting of nudity and links to nudity (or as was claimed shock value and porn). I checked the links and Yes, there was nudity, but I found it to be in an artistic use of same and found no shock value as apparently the alerting member did. I find the human form to be a thing of intrinsic beauty (naturally perhaps some more than others, but that is for me to decide) and does not in and of itself cause me to be repulsed.
If the alerting member has a problem with the post, they are free to involve the mods or simply to trash it themselves. I really don't like the many posts about cats and kittens (which often seem to turn up in what I consider to be the wrong forums) and trash them without alerts or commenting in the threads. It seems some folks take this stuff way too seriously.
1000words
(7,051 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)there was also that point to consider........
and consider it I did.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)The alert shows exactly why Spencer Tunick's work has value. It evokes a lot of responses, but the intention is certainly honorable and positive. Not going into a thesis here, but in many ways this is brilliant work. Those who get it, get it. And those who don't can leave it alone.
We all don't like the same music. We all don't like the same food. We all don't like the same books. We all don't like the same cars. We all don't like the same houses. We all don't like the same humor. We all don't like the same recreation. We all don't like the same hairstyles. We all don't like the same...Etcetera into Infinity...
Art is no different.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)however, to discover now that "We all don't like the same cars", is simply mind blowing!
If only I had known!
You are exactly right, art is in the eyes of the artist and the beholder.
I found nothing offensive in what you posted.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)--but his work is not universally appreciated. Here's another view of the Sydney Opera House "piece." Just google him for more of his work. He paints and constructs with humans in their most vulnerable, most generic state. And the effect on the volunteer participants is of course part of the story too.

demwing
(16,916 posts)Intrinsic? Not a chance. As you yourself stipulated: "some more than others, but that is for me to decide"
Physical beauty is completely subjective.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)to which you are entitled,
I have mine.....
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Many would say that the human form in general qualifies as "beautiful." That's a different concept than the judgement of the aesthetic appeal of certain individuals.
Maybe you are saying that beauty is not the same as "perfection." There are many classically beautiful, perfectly proportioned people who can appear to be ugly, just in the nuances of a facial expression. And there are many people who are not the "ideal" physique who radiate something positive that strikes us as beautiful.
Maybe that's what you mean by "physical beauty is completely subjective?"
Orrex
(67,080 posts)EX500rider
(12,562 posts)Orrex
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MattBaggins
(7,948 posts)and this same boring shit has been rehashed over and over and over ever since.
pnwmom
(110,254 posts)That's what I thought she was doing at first.
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)I honestly would've been impressed if she could make a painting with a rather heavy flow. Please don't be offended, I think this qualifies as art, barely, but it just lacks the personal quality that it's trying to inject.
So what, I could do that with my butt... erm... maybe. OK I could. No one would watch stretch marked formerly over weight guy with a weird face do that. No one would probably care.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)With regard to the issue of content, the iconicity of the spatial relationships brings within the realm of discourse the distinctive formal juxtapositions.
However, with regard to the issue of content, the optical suggestions of the spatial relationships endangers the devious simplicity of the remarkable handling of the medium.
LadyHawkAZ
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JI7
(93,561 posts)Response to JI7 (Reply #35)
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3catwoman3
(29,345 posts)...juvenile. "Look at me, look at me, LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
Like I said, she needs serious therapy.
MattBaggins
(7,948 posts)to pretend he was talking with his ass.
I guess this means every drunk moron who has ever gone streaking should be hailed as a great artist.
Let me stick/shoot/use my genitals for /art/talking/music... blah blah blah
Who hasn't done it? I and most of my friends stopped at least somewhere in our early twenties.
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)Those of you screaming she needs therapy, it's just art.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)And doesn't have to be super-attractive or airbrushed to do it. She's not just sitting there being ogled, she's doing something. Now whether what she is doing is of much use is another question.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)
rug
(82,333 posts)
A pithy commentary on the demise of the Carbon Age.
Archae
(47,245 posts)This is not art.
It's a stupid stunt.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Blue Owl
(59,014 posts)n/t
1000words
(7,051 posts)AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Violet_Crumble
(36,385 posts)I dunno, I shudder to think what she says to women who are sex positive feminists. I always thought 'cool story, bro' was a response to someone telling an anecdote that's obviously tailor-made for what's being discussed, not to attack people who identify with any other form of feminism than what they identify with
LostOne4Ever
(9,749 posts)but between the legs of the painter?
When I think of art....I think of William-Adolphe Bouguereau
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William-Adolphe_Bouguereau

http://www.bouguereau.org/
WARNING: Links contain nudity.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)--one from an earlier time. The direction of art changes over time but is inclusive. These days if you create something, you can call it art. It doesn't mean it's good art. Art is subjective. Different people will like different types of art. There's no one definition.
In your example I get a good picture of your taste in art. And that's fine. But it has no bearing on whether the performance in question deserves to be called art.
If you don't like some art, say why you don't like it --not just "it's not art." That's the tired old lament of the arrogant but uninformed.
Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)but only if you can sell that act well and get good photos or videos. You could probably find an audience, if done well enough and documented.
Pissing has not been fully explored, I'm sure. It's a challenge, and will not be popular--but go for it.
Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)I wasn't aware that this was a technique that was taught in art schools today. Who says the humanities are dead?
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)people have been pulling and squirting stuff out their VJ's for at least 50 years and documenting it. Where ya been?
I'm sure there are better and worse techniques.
rrneck
(17,671 posts)When I was in graduate school I knew a printmaker who was fooling around with various methods of printing. He wasn't satisfied with the standard printing "matrix" like litho or whatever. He wanted to print his body. He was a former army paratrooper so he had me use a paint roller to apply the printing medium to his body and he jumped off a table to make a print of a parachute landing fall. It was one of many of various types of body printing projects he did, and I was usually the one applying the print medium.
They said I'd be doing a lot of things in art school. They never said anything about painting naked paratroopers.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)If you were pissing with the intent to give a deeper insight into the human condition. And if you pissed on this, you could comment on the departure of art from the halcyon days of true formal rebellion. And if you collected the materials you used in a can you could dunk a photograph of this work in it you could use a French philosopher to comment on the lack of originality and banality of derivative post modern thinking, which of course depended on that same French philosopher.
Mosby
(19,491 posts)After spending around two months looking for a toilet bowl that was oblong in such a way that was similar to Iron Mans face, the student then ate edible pigmentation in order to create black, green, and red urine, which he then turned into the toilet rendition of Iron Man seen above. He also used some of his saliva to make foam used in the piece. Reportedly, at the art competition, his work created a terrible odor.
http://www.geekosystem.com/iron-man-blood-urine-art/
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)it had to happen...
Orrex
(67,080 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)complete misconception.
I am saying that if ENOUGH people agree that this performance should go on because they define it as art, then open your mind, viewer. Maybe you will still say it's bad art, or not your thing--but saying it's "not art" is pointless.
No, everything is not art. And a lot of things that ARE art are not recognized officially for one reason or another. But art these days is a larger sphere than it used to be.
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If a bystander kicked one of the scaffolds out from under her and was working with her--it would be part of the art. If a bystander was just being an arrogant angry jerk, then it would be assault. Duh?
Orrex
(67,080 posts)If a non-participating bystander kicked out the scaffolding, and 100 other non-participating bystanders called it art, does that make it art? Deferring to the fleeting will of some majority, by which standard everything can potentially be called art, is simply a way to declare that everything is art, without having to put oneself on the hook for making that statement.
I'm not saying that I can offer a solid way to define art, but I have never heard or read a definition that couldn't easily be interpreted to encompass the entirety of human endeavor.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)that 100 bystanders would have any sort of consensus is false. So there is no point to be made about a random "majority" defining it as art. 100 people MIGHT theoretically speaking--get jollies on her being rudely knocked off--but that doesn't make it art.
The fact is --artists, curators, organizers, academics--these groups would call it art. (It's not my favorite thing--I'm kinda squeemish about body art-- but I don't deny that it's art). For ex, championship wrestling?--I don't like, but I can see it as an art form. Boxing is a form of body expression that ends up in injury often (football too for that matter) and I don't like it but it is an art. It is a ritualized form of assault kept within boundaries --that rises to an art form. Now if you think --for example that S&M rises to an art form, that's up to you. Many would not get that. I think we can all agree that non-consensual violence is NOT an art form. Which kicking out the scaffolding would be, if she did not give permission.
Unless the art performance is voted on by the bystanders to decide whether it is presented or not, art is presented without your or my prior approval sometimes. MANY things that disturb me hit my eyeballs everyday without my approval. But I ignore or move on. Or if it's important enough, I'll respond.
Art definitely does NOT encompass the entirety of human behavior. It has specific meanings in context, and definite boundaries.
Hope that helps. If not, say so. Discussion and interpretation is integral to art.
Orrex
(67,080 posts)And in case I appear to be moving the goalposts, let me disclaim plainly that I find performance art to be generally narcissistic, obvious and boring. It certainly is in this case.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)--so in order to have it labelled as "not art" you would have to wrestle a lot of people.
How many decide?--of course there's a lot of debate within the field. Actually it's extremely competitive at the higher levels and difficult to get the attention of the right promoters and supporters. Your theoretical "50-50" artist has a tough time. It's a horse race. (We're not talking about Sunday painters here--talking about art at a higher level of achievement). So the majority of visual art professionals and art supporters get to decide what visual art is. They are not always in consensus whatsoever but they do try to remain respectful of serious work in genres they don't care for. Keeping an open mind is necessary.
It's just like music or writing or movies. What the critics and producers and academics like--may not be what the public likes best. But that doesn't mean it's not art. And consider that often art is created that isn't widely appreciated for years. Van Gogh never sold a painting in his lifetime. He was ridiculed. OTOH Thomas Kinkade's factory-made paintings made him a young zillionaire, only because he was able to convince unsuspecting people that it was good art...when it was primarily a feat of marketing prowess. Most authorities in art would call it mediocre to bad, and his marketing predatory.
On the plus side these days, there's really something for everybody under the huge label of art. So there's no need to fight against what you don't like. If you aren't interested enough to find out anything about whatever the genre is, OK. No harm done. Move on to what you do like. Maybe you like none of it. I'm not here to cajole anybody.
So IMO the general public DOES decide what is popular art, but the public does NOT decide what IS Art. I don't like to see otherwise intelligent (liberal) people arguing the lame old, "it's not Art" merely because they don't like it. Just say you don't like it. Or that you find it "narcissistic, obvious and boring." That's more specific.
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As for violence, expressed in art. That's another topic. But you imagined it--so OK, I'll just say that as long as the violence is NOT REAL--(ie. movies, books, pictures) then it can be art. Because violence is part of our experience in this life. But if it is real, actual extreme violence (let's say--beyond boxing, which some consider to have crossed the line) --if the act of extreme non-consensual violence is labelled as art, that is where sane people draw the line. Because nobody but the sickest minds could defend that in a civilized society. I don't call that good or bad art--I call it psychotic behavior, found in fiction but not condoned in reality.
So I suppose this woman does take a risk that some psychotic might kick the scaffolding out, but she is in a relatively safe environment, and the act is temporary. Remember, it's temporary and you have to be going to this art expo to see it. She is brave to do it, I'll give you that. It might provoke anger from someone who objects to what they happen to see. But if I did that, I'd be waging war daily against the ugliness of things I see in this country and society. Most of us have better self-control. This artist is banking on people being at least accepting, or even bored, like you.
I hope this helps you and anyone else asking the same totally relevant questions.
LostOne4Ever
(9,749 posts)I never said it's not art. I made a joke about art in the eye of the beholder and between the painters legs.
Then I precede to give an example of what I think of when I think art and proceeded to share the work and name of my favorite fine artist.
I absolutely love his style. Its so realistic, and it blows me away to think that had I not seen a picture describing an alternative version of the birth of venus I would never have heard of him. I would love to be able to draw and paint like that.
I'm very well aware that art is subjective. Some I like and some I don't. I fully admit to preferring concrete art over the abstract, but I do have an appreciation of both. I love the art found cartoons and animation for example, which, technically, is a bit of an abstraction.
I don't care much for the likes of Pollock. It seems like he is just throwing paint on a canvas (though I know he put way more effort into his works than that). That is my taste.
Sorry if I offended you. Again, I was just making a joke (which I thought was obvious) and then stated my own preference.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)so often when people want to diss any modern art, they say categorical things like "no longer in the eyes of the beholder..." (I needed a smilie to get your joke, I guess).
Posting about Bouguereau, no prob -- I said they're both "art." In the general sense.
Nobody has to like Pollock. But he is important because of his influence at the time. Many artists did things differently because of Pollock. But that does not mean you need to like looking at his work.
No offense at all. Just art chat.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos!

We cut off your johnson!
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)"I was talking about my rug...."
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)... that is something alright.
L0oniX
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Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)the vagina and the anus. although, they are both orifices ... there is a difference in function and location.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)So it's legit art if it is pushed out of a vagina but it's not if it gets pushed out of your ass. pffft whatever
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)The finished product produced by this woman artist holds no interest for me. Her concept and execution is not necessarily to my taste either. But, really, I could not care less one way or another about it.
As pointed out up thread only a certain element of DU seem to be enthralled by this.
btw: this is what you said
with a picture about taking a shit.
The woman above is not shitting. Just wanted to clarify as you seemed confused with your post as to exactly what was taking place and how and with what part of the female body she was using.
A man would have to use his anus or ureter. A woman could use her ureter, vagina or, anus. This woman chose to use her vaginal opening.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)You may need to smoke up some good weed to get it.
Generic Brad
(14,374 posts)Is it "The Aristocrat"?
Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)the artist would probably say it's as good as any.
Unless you're just saying all art like this is the domain of elitists. In which case off with your head.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)I love 'em.
2naSalit
(102,571 posts)Think I'll pass on this one!
Reter
(2,188 posts)Right when she's bending over!
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Niceguy1
(2,467 posts)Thats nasty
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)but a lot of body stuff is nasty. This kind of art has a gross-out factor for sure. This is not the worst out there.
The Straight Story
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Jake Stern
(3,146 posts)yuiyoshida
(45,392 posts)I. Have. No. Words. None.