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Mad Men 1964 (The Phun Of Being A Goldwater Girl)... And No, Hillary Is Not In This Picture... (Original Post) WillyT Apr 2014 OP
There are some very unhappy expressions in that group of girls. oh my. 2banon Apr 2014 #1
Maybe They Were Just Worried About The Guy With The Phone... WillyT Apr 2014 #3
Wouldn't you be unhappy if you had to wear that hat? BainsBane Apr 2014 #24
They don't look happy - could be the hats and outfit they had to wear. yellowcanine Apr 2014 #25
It seems like all Republican chicks had the same hairdo back then. mackerel Apr 2014 #2
This is Mad Men 1964 frazzled Apr 2014 #4
I remember that era, and that's a stylized version of it. MADem Apr 2014 #8
Helmet hair... Javaman Apr 2014 #13
Well, they had to do something with it...all that teasing and lacquer destroyed it. MADem Apr 2014 #22
The clothes from Mad Men are real vintage,as are all of the sufrommich Apr 2014 #18
Not quite--I think some are designed "BASED ON" vintage clothing--they aren't all "actual" vintage. MADem Apr 2014 #21
I thought AuH20 was pretty phunny at the time Fumesucker Apr 2014 #5
I didn't know about those girls. But.. ananda Apr 2014 #10
Barry Goldwater Campaigns in Cairo (the source of the photograph) MADem Apr 2014 #6
Egypt ??? - That Would Be Remarkable News !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #7
Quote from the photographer caraher Apr 2014 #9
I know we think campaigns are clunky, scripted and stupid now...but they were just as bad back in MADem Apr 2014 #12
Bury Goldwater NBachers Apr 2014 #11
What I remember best about the Goldwater campaign MineralMan Apr 2014 #14
So...what is it, pee? Arkana Apr 2014 #16
It tasted like Squirt. MineralMan Apr 2014 #17
Those girls look rather unhappy. Arkana Apr 2014 #15
the outfits, oy! KittyWampus Apr 2014 #19
Aside from the fact that you don't have to be some kind of fashion expert to figure out MADem Apr 2014 #23
the icing on that cake are the gloves she's wearing. They almost look like gold lame KittyWampus Apr 2014 #28
You're probably right on the money--the theme is "Gold" water, after all... MADem Apr 2014 #29
Why so serious? JaneyVee Apr 2014 #20
One of them might have been Stephanie Miller. thucythucy Apr 2014 #26
"Whoa...how did that guy get a phone clear out here?" Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #27

yellowcanine

(36,811 posts)
25. They don't look happy - could be the hats and outfit they had to wear.
Wed Apr 23, 2014, 01:09 PM
Apr 2014

Dorky even in 1964.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. I remember that era, and that's a stylized version of it.
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 11:55 PM
Apr 2014

The suits and dresses were not wrinkle free, like those examples are, the men's hair was greasier, the women's hair was dryer, more frazzled, and stiffer from all the lacquer they put on it, the stockings were a bit more obvious and not so invisble/sheer, and the make up was cake-ier.

What is wrong with Pete Campbell's pant leg and shoe? He should really be wearing a wing tip!

Javaman

(65,871 posts)
13. Helmet hair...
Wed Apr 23, 2014, 08:45 AM
Apr 2014

it was called that not because it was just shaped like a helmet but because it was as hard as one because of all the final net.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
22. Well, they had to do something with it...all that teasing and lacquer destroyed it.
Wed Apr 23, 2014, 12:58 PM
Apr 2014

Then the fashion switched to stick straight, ironed hair, parted in the middle.

And that style worked for men AND women!

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
18. The clothes from Mad Men are real vintage,as are all of the
Wed Apr 23, 2014, 09:22 AM
Apr 2014

interior furniture and decor,down to the dishes,glassware and bedding. They have excellent buyers for that show who regularly buy from sites like Etsy and EBay.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
21. Not quite--I think some are designed "BASED ON" vintage clothing--they aren't all "actual" vintage.
Wed Apr 23, 2014, 12:54 PM
Apr 2014

The Etsy stuff would be 'reproduction,' not actual old stuff:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/03/fashion/03REPRO.html?_r=0

There are a few items that are, indeed, vintage, like Joan's drawers...but they aren't stuffing everyone in old clothes--that would be difficult to impossible. They make a lot of the stuff they use, and they use costume suppliers too. Certainly they use some vintage pieces if they find something that fits the bill, but the whole costume shop doesn't come from "used clothes." It would be one helluva trick to outfit all those people in clothing that's fifty years old--even if they raided my closets and attic!

If they buy vintage, it's as likely they are using it as a model for a reproduction as anything else.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/8053267/Mad-Men-costume-designer-reveals-secret-to-Joan-Holloway-look.html

Mad Men costume designer reveals secret to Joan Holloway look
Janie Bryant, costume designer of hit show Mad Men, has disclosed how the show’s unique style was created.


...All the actresses except Hendricks wear reproduction vintage bras — hers are originals from the period — as well as girdles, garters, full panties and slips. Hendricks has previously commented on the “war wounds” she has sustained from her period underwear.


http://www.glamour.com/fashion/blogs/dressed/2009/01/tk-questions-for-mad-men-costu.html

If you're as obsessed with Mad Men and its award winning style as I am, you won't want to miss our exclusive interview with the show's costume designer, Janie Bryant. She spills on what inspires her to dress Betty Draper, how she creates 200 costumes per episode, and where she goes for incredible vintage clothes (the answer may surprise you), after the jump...


....JB: It really varies per episode, but Season Two I just had such a great time designing for January Jones. There really is this huge transformation, when she comes to work and I see her in real life, and then see her totally transformed. All of her equestrian stuff, her evening cocktail dresses and gowns, they are just so much fun to create.

...I design and build things from scratch for the principal cast and some of the regulars, and things are also shopped. We have great resources for the costume shops in Los Angeles. I love Palace Costume and I love Western Costume. It's amazing how much more space you have in L.A. to keep a closet full of vintage clothes than you do in New York!


http://racked.com/archives/2014/03/31/mad-men-costumer.php
Bryant makes all the suits for the male principal characters on the show—Don Draper, played by John Hamm, Roger Sterling, played by John Slattery, and Pete Campbell, played by Vincent Kartheiser—and she said she gives each character's suit wardrobe its own little touch. Roger Sterling, for example, only wears three-piece suits, while Don Draper wears two-piece suits.


As someone who was alive in that era, I will say they do a good job. The attention to detail is quite good, though they are "cutting edge" when it comes to their timeline. In the small 'burbs and the countryside, a lot of the stuff that hit the big cities didn't trickle down to the smaller towns for a year or more.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
5. I thought AuH20 was pretty phunny at the time
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 11:46 PM
Apr 2014

But then I was just barely a teenager and a geeky one at that.

ananda

(35,291 posts)
10. I didn't know about those girls. But..
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 11:59 PM
Apr 2014

.. I well remember those AUH20 vanity plates on people's cars.

There was a clique of girls in my high school class who were rabid
Goldwater fans from Bircher families. I always wondered what
made people like that. But they were mostly fun and friendly and
hard to hate; and there were some heated discussions and odd
antics on their part.

Most of us were liberal Dems though.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. Barry Goldwater Campaigns in Cairo (the source of the photograph)
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 11:49 PM
Apr 2014
http://www.capecentralhigh.com/cape-photos/barry-goldwater-campaigns-in-cairo/

Interesting blog from a rather talented and prolific photographer and observer of the scene of his day.
 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
7. Egypt ??? - That Would Be Remarkable News !!!
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 11:54 PM
Apr 2014

Just kidding... lol! But that's how it read at first glance...






caraher

(6,364 posts)
9. Quote from the photographer
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 11:56 PM
Apr 2014
I don’t know if the concept of Goldwater Girls was a local idea or one cooked up by the campaign folks, but it has to go down as a really bad idea. I can just see the girls saying, “You want us to dress up HOW? And be seen in public?”

MADem

(135,425 posts)
12. I know we think campaigns are clunky, scripted and stupid now...but they were just as bad back in
Wed Apr 23, 2014, 12:11 AM
Apr 2014

the day.

The "stump speech"--repeated over and over again--lives on, but it has a much shorter shelf life today because it gets covered on national television if it is any good. Then it has to be revised and renewed.

There's more security to get into an event these days, but it's really "same thing only different."

The ads are more sophisticated, but the basic message (I am great, it's the OTHER one that sucks/will kill us all/will eat your babies) has not changed. Remember that stupid Reagan one "There's a bear in the woods?" (Always made me think "Do bears shit in the woods?" That was just a modern 'scare' ad...not unlike the one time Daisy ad by LBJ (he only needed to show that thing once! That made a stir!)...

Same shit (Be Very Afraid and the Other Guy Sucks)....different eras:





That guy has chronicled some interesting stuff at his website--very "Middle America" it is!

MineralMan

(151,413 posts)
14. What I remember best about the Goldwater campaign
Wed Apr 23, 2014, 09:13 AM
Apr 2014

was the relabeled soft drink (Squirt, I think). It was called Goldwater. A couple of friends and I liberated a couple of cases of it at a Goldwater rally near our town. Pre flip-top, in steel cans.



Free soda! Yay!

MineralMan

(151,413 posts)
17. It tasted like Squirt.
Wed Apr 23, 2014, 09:19 AM
Apr 2014

I'm not sure what it was, though. Lemon-limey stuff. We drank both cases in a couple of weeks, though, and tossed the cans. Turns out they're worth a few bucks these days, but we were kids, so...

MADem

(135,425 posts)
23. Aside from the fact that you don't have to be some kind of fashion expert to figure out
Wed Apr 23, 2014, 01:05 PM
Apr 2014

that a checkered sunsuit/gym outfit over a white blouse and frigging FISHNETS is not a "good look," that dumbass hat and those bridesmaid shoes poking into the lawn are probably icing the cake for that poor young woman.

How ghastly. The look on the face of the guy behind the rope, there, is awful, too--he looks like he's herding cattle, the putz.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
28. the icing on that cake are the gloves she's wearing. They almost look like gold lame
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 07:15 PM
Apr 2014

LOL

MADem

(135,425 posts)
29. You're probably right on the money--the theme is "Gold" water, after all...
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 07:23 PM
Apr 2014

I guess they wanted a "Goldwater" girl to look like a cross between one of Dean Martin's "Gold Digger" dancers and a gold miner!!

thucythucy

(9,113 posts)
26. One of them might have been Stephanie Miller.
Wed Apr 23, 2014, 01:17 PM
Apr 2014

Wasn't her father Goldwater's running mate?

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