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As if the Bundy Ranch right wing cause célèbre werent already stupid and hateful enough:
He said he would continue holding a daily news conference; on Saturday, it drew one reporter and one photographer, so Mr. Bundy used the time to officiate at what was in effect a town meeting with supporters, discussing, in a long, loping discourse, the prevalence of abortion, the abuses of welfare and his views on race.
I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro, he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch they didnt have nothing to do. They didnt have nothing for their kids to do. They didnt have nothing for their young girls to do.
And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do? he asked. They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And Ive often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didnt get no more freedom. They got less freedom.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/43314_Cliven_Bundy-_I_Want_to_Tell_You_About_the_Negro
I'm SHOCKED! You mean he's a racist rightwing douche rocket as well?!
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Their entire existence is dedicated to preserving the privilege of the white male.
No wonder Hannity endorsed this thug.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)It certainly is NOT the govt.....they know they couldn't win that....Oh nooo...what they expect is...."The American "gubmint" is going to fail.....and when those Food Stamps and Welfare checks dry up....those "people" are going to come for OUR stuff"....They actually believe (just what Charles Manson always said actually and ironically)....that a race war is coming....They believe the country will fail....and fall to chaos....and then the great boogeyman the U.N. will be called in....the country will be divided 5 ways...and you won't be allowed to leave your "zone".....this signals that the Armageddon has begun! They are THAT loony...Ran into a bunch of em back in the 80's while living in the midwest....friends of friends....they were buying stockpiles of food and land and weapons....particularly ammunition because they think it will be the new currency of the realm..and they believed that Congress had secretly passed a law that made it illegal to stockpile more than 3 days food....it was a lot of such foolishness!
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)These bunch of yahoos are nuts and they feed off if each other. They think they can conquer our military and the only ones who will be left is their crazy bunch. The militia bunch should be in for mental evaluations, they sure do not need guns.
oneofthe99
(712 posts)I have two good friends who live in a cabin in Maine in the middle of nowhere.
no running water , etc.. they are nothing like that and in a way you could call
them survivalists or living off the grid .They are planting a big garden , building a barn for animals.
If you meet them you would instantly like them
Egnever
(21,506 posts)oneofthe99
(712 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)I am sure they are nice people though
left on green only
(1,484 posts)The growing season is shorter than in areas more to the south, and the winters are also very severe. I hope that they and their animals will be able to make it without having to suffer.
JHB
(37,160 posts)The term "survivalist" was coined in the 70s or early 80s to describe people who expected some kind of complete collapse of civilization so they had property away from cities and fortified it in one way or another: stockpiles of food, fuel, weapons, and ammunition, bomb shelters, etc. the rest of humanity would destroy itself, while they survived and rebuilt.
The usual scenario for the collapse was a nuclear war, but "race war" figured pretty prominently in their literature. Springing from the same paranoid roots as Charlie Manson's "Helter Skelter". Even the nuclear scenarios stressed how "city dwellers" would form bands roaming the countryside for food and they needed the firepower to repel these raiders.
The movie "Tremors" has a survivalist couple. They're a bit of a lampoon, but not as much as one might hope.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)If they're living off the grid because they're trying to insulate themselves from a coming catastrophe/ dark people, they may also be survivalists.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)They practice and train not just for natural disasters ....they fear the dark people coming for their "stuff". So they go out in the woods and do "drills".
High_Voltage
(11 posts)... but I will grant that their percentages are likely higher than the population at large.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)In many American cities there are almost no jobs picking cotton at all. Strange but true.
So the problem is more the non-existence of good-paying jobs picking cotton, rather than a shortage of people having attended picking cotton college to learn technical nuances of that task.
Also, the reason slaves wouldn't have been allowed to "abort their young children" is that their offspring were property.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Didn't notice them being "richly rewarded" for that back breaking work.....I suggest he try picking some cotton himself.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)4-5 bucks. That was back in the early 1960s. By the late 1960s everyone had gone to John Deer mechanical pickers that mounted on their tractors, so hand picking cotton has not been around for over 40 years.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)I had relatives still sharecropping into the 1970's....maybe later....I know they were in the early 70's though...
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)My parents had gone from poor to lower middle class by the late 1960s, so I didn't have to do that type of part-time work anymore just to buy some pants or a decent pair of shoes to wear to school. Just didn't see anything but mechanical pickers in my neck of the woods in the late 1960s.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Hopefully, they will charge some of the losers at some point.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)people collect welfare. He should look at the statistics on that.What an ass
He wasn't driving pass those projects,he was coming from them
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)And he's bitching about welfare.
malaise
(268,978 posts)NOT
spanone
(135,831 posts)thecrow
(5,519 posts)To drag him away kicking and screaming would only add fuel to the fire right now.
He needs to get a subpoena in the quiet of the night. And a set of shiny new handcuffs.
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)And he spends his nights watching Faux notNews.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)sheshe2
(83,751 posts)Amusing, his take down of the "Negro" when he is the one sucking off the governments tit and stealing from it as well.
What a proud teabagger.
Fridays Child
(23,998 posts)...he certainly has the network on his side, now.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...yeah, that wonderful family life they had as slaves, where any of them could be sold as a group, or separately...
"I know all them there Negruhs, why, I drove past some of 'em once..."
What a racist, hypocritical, low-life asshole.
oneofthe99
(712 posts)This is white supremacist stuff.
How can you be sure that article is right though?
Who wrote it? Is there a reporter who put his name on it
Nine
(1,741 posts)By Adam Nagourney:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/us/politics/rancher-proudly-breaks-the-law-becoming-a-hero-in-the-west.html?_r=1
Not sure about that Little Green Footballs site:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Green_Footballs
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)1. Support for fascists, both in America (see: Pat Buchanan, Robert Stacy McCain, etc.) and in Europe (see: Vlaams Belang, BNP, SIOE, Pat Buchanan, etc.)
2. Support for bigotry, hatred, and white supremacism (see: Pat Buchanan, Ann Coulter, Robert Stacy McCain, Lew Rockwell, etc.)
3. Support for throwing women back into the Dark Ages, and general religious fanaticism (see: Operation Rescue, anti-abortion groups, James Dobson, Pat Robertson, Tony Perkins, the entire religious right, etc.)
More: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/35243_Why_I_Parted_Ways_With_The_Right
lunasun
(21,646 posts)brush
(53,776 posts)subsidy. He's been getting free feed for his cattle for 2 decades and somehow it doesn't register with his dumb ass, or his supporters, that he's also getting welfare.
But he one ups the people he alleged that he saw on the porch in North Las Vegas, he collects his subsidy in the form of cattle feed and then turns around and sells his fattened up steers for a fat profit.
American exceptionalism at it's best/worst.
Taitertots
(7,745 posts)Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)I would love it if those cows turned into this:
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Well, that takes me back to being fourteen years old.
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)However, I've given up playing with real cards. I do everything over the Magic the Gathering app on Android.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Nerd!!
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)M14 was the core set for this year, M15 will launch July-ish. There's also one large and two small "blocks" released each each year that remain legal for Standard play for two years before rotating out.
Yeah, I'm a big ol' dork.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)ck4829
(35,070 posts)Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)Touché.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Maybe WE were better off slaves? But freedom for him?
What a weak minded individual.
Kablooie
(18,632 posts)Didn't you know that?
bravenak
(34,648 posts)It must be true!!! I'm glad someone is around to do the thinking for us. He must be so proud of himself. Racists usually are.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,819 posts)txwhitedove
(3,928 posts)eShirl
(18,490 posts)joe_stampingbull
(165 posts)Why is anyone surprised? Right wing fanatics are the scum of the nation,
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Kablooie
(18,632 posts)So many white men are so well versed in all aspects of black life experiences and culture.
It's heart warming.
Or let me rephrase that...
It's heart burning.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)when even a desert-dwelling Nevada welfare cowboy can grow up to be an expert on the urban black experience.
mwyn8
(84 posts)yeah; guess he forgot about this aspect.
NYtoBush-Drop Dead
(490 posts)tofuandbeer
(1,314 posts)mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)Hong Kong Cavalier
(4,572 posts)brett_jv
(1,245 posts)Or ... when is this FROM?
More importantly, is this friggin' REAL? This is something like The Onion, right?
Somebody tell me this isn't real ... I don't even ...
mackerel
(4,412 posts)Is a government subsidy.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)eShirl
(18,490 posts)what an ignorant ass boor
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)has anyone informed him what century it is?
Hugin
(33,135 posts)He didn't have a problem with paying grazing fees or the US Government until Bill Clinton was sworn in as President.
Nine
(1,741 posts)"Government subsidy"!?
This guy actually has the gall to use that phrase? HE should be made to pick cotton until he pays back the million dollars he owes American taxpayers.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)What a surprise! Not. Just another gasbag militiazoid longing for the days of the antebellum south. Hatred of the poor (there really should be a term for that) goes hand in hand with everything else he espouses.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)The thing that really gets me more than anything, is this shit right here:
And Ive often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didnt get no more freedom. They got less freedom.
There. Are. No. Words. For. This. Bullshit. Just. None.
iloveObama12
(421 posts)Bundy has dropped off the FOX "News" radar faster than Flight 370.
they wrong for that
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Am I not surprised?
B Calm
(28,762 posts)To all you right wing trolls, Bundy is a Freeloading Socialist!
nyquil_man
(1,443 posts)maxrandb
(15,325 posts)This clip needs to be blasted from the rooftops and hung aound the neck of Hannity, Fox News and every other "cookie-cutter" frothing wingnut hate radio host, blogger and network that came to this assholes defense.
aceofblades
(73 posts)and they'll hang themselves. Let's see how fast the Repugs backpeddle away from him now
G_j
(40,367 posts)I bet there will be more reporters for today's "press conference"
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Think about overthrowing the gubermint. These guys with the same attitude as Bundy are just useless thorns in our society, have about as much use as a mosquito. Just blood suckers, many probably sucking the gubermint tit. I hope some of their crazy ideas will die with them.
The CCC
(463 posts)They're not useless. They are useful to the 1%. The rest of us, not so much.
underpants
(182,791 posts)We could all see this coming
tclambert
(11,085 posts)where the Supreme Court says we don't need affirmative action laws or voting rights laws to protect minorities against bigotry . . .
lunasun
(21,646 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)lykemike
(25 posts)"Let me tell you what's wrong with black people". #@%k I've had it with the likes of O'Reilly, Rush, Newt, Coulter, etc, attempting to "whitesplain" to their clueless audiences what the problem(s) is/are with African-Americans. As if they're fukking concerned! This Bundy guy, like so many others, draws opinion from driving past a housing project? His opinion is likely colored by commentary espoused by these bigots and their southern-strategy "journalism". Nothing more than painting us as "welfare queens" and takers mooching off the food stamp president.
Listen, since you're so sincerely concerned about blacks, do something. Help pay some tuition. Provide a job or two. Donate to improve inner-city schools. Volunteer some of your time.
Or continue to drive past, spreading the good, white gospel about "the negro" to your bubble. I can't believe it's 2014.
3catwoman3
(23,975 posts)...I was doing a post-hospital exam on one of our patients who had been transferred from our local hospital to a higher level facility because of a severe asthma attack. His mom told me they had 2 choices of where to transfer - Chicago Children's or a suburban hospital, Lutheran General. I had a hard time keeping my jaw from dropping open when she said, "I didn't want him at Children's because it's too colored there."
In my naivete, I initially thought perhaps she didn't like the paint scheme there. When it finally dawned on me she was talking about skin color, I was dumbstruck. Pro baby a good thing, because what I was thinking about her would have surely gotten my fired if I'd said it aloud. I'm sure this mom has no idea that she permanently changed how I my opinion of her, and that I recall that incident every time I see her.
Paladin
(28,254 posts)pokerfan
(27,677 posts)This guy is actually arguing for slavery?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Man%27s_Burden
Raffi Ella
(4,465 posts)I guess we should be grateful that he is not ashamed. I mean, it's good to know where people stand, real good. Especially seeing as how we have a 'Negro' in the White House.
Yes siree, it's good to know your Armed Militias.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Is this from the Onion???
I'm having flashbacks to the 50s and I wasn't even alive then. Did Bundy sleep through the Civil Rights era? He sure is old enough to remember it.
kpete
(71,986 posts)jmondine
(1,649 posts)... I just didn't expect the train to crash into a gasoline truck next to an abandoned uranium factory infested with mutant killer bees.
May I use that sometime?
muriel_volestrangler
(101,311 posts)"I dunno they sound pretty honest and on target to me.
A lot better than anything that Royal Meeker guy said about the breed."
"Not the most delicate way of putting it but I do understand what hes saying and its not so much that hes beating up on blacks as expressing pity for them."
"The left is after Bundy.
Big time. It is disgusting what is happening."
"Leave it to the increasingly idiotic Paul to step in this .and take the bait"
and worse (bigoted language warning, if you follow the link)
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Even though it was captured on video ...unedited ...in his own words ...in a public place ..."IT WAS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT!!!!!"
stillcool
(32,626 posts)have passed him by. He needs to get out more. Join the living.
Mr. Evil
(2,841 posts)I want to tell you about the Repugro. They are all Cliven Bundy.
neffernin
(275 posts)are two things that go hand in hand.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)"Its the Spanish word for Black and and and them there rappers call each other that all the tiiime"
I will bet you $5,000 that he or his racist right wing supporters are going to say this in the next 24 hours.
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)PennsylvaniaMatt
(966 posts)Bundy has gone way past the point of relevance...let's enjoy the right-wing wipe the egg off their face!
gulliver
(13,180 posts)Bundy's views are probably less racist than a large chunk of the reliable Republican base. Republicans can't put down Bundy without putting down his many orc sympathizers. Dems should have a field day with this.
eilen
(4,950 posts)that pretty much eliminated the need for humans to pick cotton.... Not only is he racist, he is stupid.
mstinamotorcity2
(1,451 posts)saw who he was from the jump. It's not surprising!! And Republicans can stop being in Denial!! This is the type of people who have represented them and have spoken for them for the last 50 years!! They started this Trolling crew now they want off the Ship. Not So fast republicans!!! This is just getting Good!!!!!
Wolf Frankula
(3,600 posts)I mean used the word 'Negro'. I would have expected him to use a different word beginning with 'n'. You know, the title of Dick Gregory's most famous book. (A really great work. You should read it.)
Wolf
LoisB
(7,203 posts)NOT say NEGRO, he says "NIGRA" which was the pronunciation used by racists too afraid or too "polite" to say nigger. Even LBJ said Nigra.
...and please, don't anyone attack me for not saying "the N-word", I am an old, Black woman who has heard it all and I don't believe in sanitizing the word. It's not as if anyone believes "the N-word" is a word.