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Thu Apr 24, 2014, 01:03 AM

 

Why Godzilla matters

While some may never be able to see past the image of those 1970s movies and cartoon show, Godzilla is in reality a literary metaphor of nearly unmatched relevancy and power in today's world. Others have written of Godzilla in literary or cultural terms, well before me.
But I think the symbol of Godzilla is an apt one for this particular era of history and its issues.

This is not about the new film coming out in a few weeks, although, if it proves a hit, that may get people talking about Godzilla, and the symbolic resonance of what he represents.

Hopefully, the film will trigger a lot of conversations beyond just the special effects and production values.

As an ideal emodiment of a particular and persistent human theme, Godzilla matters in today's world, far beyond just the action-movie excitement and box-office receipts.

The Japanese established kaiju (giant monsters) as a film genre, but real-life
kaiju are part of the Japanese DNA. Puzzled? Go check out some actual kaiju on youtube---The 3-11 tsunami at Kessenuma, or Minamisanriku, or Sendai, as an unstoppable giant monster spread it's unimaginably powerful limbs across the land, tossing trucks, ships and buildings around like Cracker-Jack toys, making a mockery of puny human barriers built for the foolish illusion of security, and ultimately laying all to waste.

But Godzilla, the king and biggest star of all the kaiju, is distinctly American-inspired, and so in essence,
a co-creation of Japan and America.

We gave Japan the nuclear connection tragically via Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and later, through Fukushima reactors #1,2,3 and 4---All built at near sea-level (against some Japanese objections at the time), as insisted upon by General Electric in the 1970s, in order to sell their reactor design without costly modification.
And this was after the recent tsunamis of 1946, 1960 and 1964!

Human folly provided the opening through which Fukushima was ripped-open, literally, by the earth's own kaiju.

America gave Japan the dark gift of radiation, and Japan fused their own ancient mythologies, their seismic heritage, and recent history together in a burst of inspiration, and gave the world Gojira (Godzilla)---The radioactive super-dragon that cannot be killed or stopped, and that humanity helped create.

The theme that Godzilla embodies, is deeply colored by the age-old issue
embodied in Mary Shelley's Frankenstein---Has humankind taken on too much power---More than our limited wisdom can handle?

This is a theme that haunts the human race more and more with each passing year.

Perhaps Godzilla is the new, and even more topically relevant,
Frankenstein, for our age.

Godzilla represents everything we fear, that we cannot control, and that can destroy us all. This includes phenomena of nature (tsunami, typhoons, earthquakes), as well as things we are partly responsible for (climate change? Pollution? Fukushima?).

The primary theme behind Godzilla as a metaphor is something many people simply avoid thinking about, but is the thing that all human beings, as citizens of Earth, NEED to be thinking about.

It is a question.

Actually, it is the question:

Will the human race survive?

Put that in your action-movie and smoke it.

For many people choosing not to look, or think, too deeply, Godzilla will continue to be merely an action-flick phenomenon,
a social event, a punch line.

But for the more philosophical among us----Those not afraid to look
at The Big Picture of human life on earth, even via a piece of popular mass-entertainment,
Godzilla matters.

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nikto Apr 2014 OP
intaglio Apr 2014 #1
JHB Apr 2014 #3
AceAcme May 2014 #76
sakabatou May 2014 #85
Berlin Expat Apr 2014 #2
RobertEarl Apr 2014 #4
TampaAnimusVortex May 2014 #83
RobertEarl May 2014 #88
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yuiyoshida Apr 2014 #6
nikto Apr 2014 #15
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Exposethefrauds Apr 2014 #20
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Adrahil Apr 2014 #57
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Dirty Socialist Apr 2014 #22
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Response to nikto (Original post)

Thu Apr 24, 2014, 03:05 AM

1. 2 points, one serious and one silly

First please link to the film trailers or the website

Second as long as there is no Godzuki I'm happy

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Response to intaglio (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 24, 2014, 03:42 AM

3. Trailer and extended look

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Response to intaglio (Reply #1)

Tue May 20, 2014, 06:08 AM

76. Viva Godzuki!

 

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Response to intaglio (Reply #1)

Sun May 25, 2014, 02:02 AM

85. There is no Godzuki

Unfortunately, there are humans.

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Thu Apr 24, 2014, 03:15 AM

2. Another source

of American-inspired backstory to Gojira was the Castle Bravo nuclear test of March 1, 1954, which yielded a far larger explosion than expected..... if I recall correctly, in the 15 megaton range, whereas a six megaton blast was what had been anticipated. The unfortunate crew of a tuna fishing boat, the 'Lucky Dragon #5', was exposed to fallout from the Castle Bravo test, and one of them died as a result with the rest - along with a good many others - suffering from radiation sickness as a result. This real-life tragedy inspired the opening scene of the original Gojira in which the crew of the fictional fishing boat 'Eiko Maru' is obliterated in Godzilla's first attack.

I'm looking forward to this new film; the director has said that in this version, the kaiju Godzilla will be a "force of nature". Certainly, it has a top-notch cast including Ken Watanabe, Juilette Binoche, Bryan Cranston and Akira Takarada - who also appeared in the original 1954 film.

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Thu Apr 24, 2014, 03:47 AM

4. The human race can not survive

 

The pace of the race we are running is not sustainable.

It will run out of cheap energy in time. Probably soon. That end of cheap energy coupled with the pollution, altered seashores and possible nuclear weapon responses to rising land and resource grabs, will knock us off our pedestal and leave us crawling. The race will be over, the dog will have eaten the dog, the rats will have won.

The survivors will be the new cavemen and women who will begin anew the race our society has been running for going on a thousand years now.
Probably with an altered genome which in evolutionary history will denote an end of one race of humans and the progression of another new race of homo E.

And that's being optimystic (sic) and hopeful.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #4)

Wed May 21, 2014, 09:35 PM

83. Thats one way to look at it...

Or... the price of renewable energy continues to fall along its current path, overtaking petrofuels over the next decade, thanks to advances in nanotechnology. I suggest you start with this book.

http://www.abundancethebook.com/

People have been predicting the end of the world since it started. It's a lot easier to imagine everything falling apart then it is to imagine inventions that haven't been imagined or invented yet.

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Response to TampaAnimusVortex (Reply #83)

Sun May 25, 2014, 11:52 AM

88. It won't be everything falling apart

 

True, on Sept. 11, a couple of buildings did appear to just 'Fall Apart'.

It will cease because our Godzilla tears it apart.

At the core of our Godzilla is technology. Einstein had something to say about what would happen to humans using tech combined with our continued mindset of war and inequality. It wasn't good.

Could not those jets flying into the towers be considered a modern Godzilla? The jets were modern tech used to create 'apartness'.

Ok, done pushing this envelope, i will close with this: Making sure our great and powerful tech resides only in the hands of honest caring people is how this society can be continuous.

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Thu Apr 24, 2014, 04:02 AM

5. I read somewhere that the monster will be covered in scars from radiation burns.

 

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Thu Apr 24, 2014, 05:04 AM

6. As a Japanese American I grew up with

Kaiju from Mothra to Rodan. I loved Gamera but there will only ever be one king of the monsters, and I don't mean the Raymond Burr version. I was lucky to be surrounded by Japanese culture in my house including Gojira toys...One of the first phrases I learned was..



Maa nante koto nanda!! Gojira itte imasu!!!

まあ なんて こと 何だ!! 五十ら 行って います!!!

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 25, 2014, 11:26 PM

15. I'm curious----What is the translation?

 

For:

Maa nante koto nanda!! Gojira itte imasu!!!

まあ なんて こと 何だ!! 五十ら 行って います!!!


??

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Response to nikto (Reply #15)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 02:50 AM

18. it means...

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OH MY GOD!!!

GODZILLA IS COMING!!

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 05:53 AM

20. What's wrong with the Original Godzilla with Raymond Burr?

 

It is the only one I really liked of the Godzilla movies the others were OK but IMHO not as good as the original.

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Response to Exposethefrauds (Reply #20)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 07:33 AM

21. Because...

Raymond Burr wasn't in the original Gojira. He made many of his scenes in Hollywood and they sliced him into the story, removing quite a bit of the original movie, and it was called GODZILLA: King of the Monsters. IF you want to see the original GODZILLA as it was meant to be viewed, get GOJIRA and watch it. You will be amazed...how MUCH YOU missed.




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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #21)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 08:02 AM

23. OK I will check it out thanks.

 

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Response to Exposethefrauds (Reply #20)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 10:19 AM

57. Bryan Cranston > Raymond Burr NT

 

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 08:49 AM

24. I also

loved Gamera. And Giant Robot too!

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Response to PasadenaTrudy (Reply #24)

Sun Apr 27, 2014, 02:50 AM

31. Gamera is a favorite of mine,too

It has my all time favorite dubbed line of dialog ever:

Kid, "Gamera not bad, he just misunderstood!"

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Response to gort (Reply #31)

Sun Apr 27, 2014, 09:17 AM

33. That's great!

I must make a note of that

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #6)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 07:53 AM

47. This plain American mutt

grew up watching those movies, and I have a strange affection for the toy-like monsters and structures, and the English voice overs that don't fit the movement of the characters' mouths. While I saw them all, and saw Godzilla over and over, the one that hits the top of my favorites list is "War of the Gargantuas." You know: brown good, green bad, battling it out. The brown one actually reminded me a bit of Lurch, lol. I especially liked the energetic shoulder action when they were challenging each other. I actually, when I was about ten, had a nightmare about the green one hunting me, and trying to hide underground where he couldn't find me.



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Response to LWolf (Reply #47)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 08:03 AM

50. When 'War of the Gargantuas' first appeared in the States...

 

...it was paired with, I believe, Monster Zero. A double feature. Those awful movies are etched in my childhood, too.
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Response to LWolf (Reply #47)

Sun May 25, 2014, 02:03 AM

86. My trainer LOVED the Gargatuans

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Thu Apr 24, 2014, 05:20 AM

7. One of my favorite scenes from one of my favorite movies...




Always San Chome No Yuhi

Movie Trailer:

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #7)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 09:27 AM

26. Son Goku ka

Now, once again, I'll have to watch movies I learned of here.

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Thu Apr 24, 2014, 05:45 AM

8. Well said!

 

One of the things that amazes me about Godzilla is that the first move occurred a mere nine years after the bombs were dropped on Japan.

That first movie seemed as much of a cultural 'apology' for WWII but also the warning to all Mankind you mention.

Plus it was simply awesome for Japan to piece together the fire-breathing dragons of their mythology with the terrifying future of science.

I grew up with Godzilla movies, too. During an obsessive-compulsive phase, I would list all the monsters, their heights, lengths, wing-spans. Write my own stories. And, before videotape, I recorded some of the movies then transcribed them to paper.

My daughters picked up my fascination with Godzilla and the 1990s Gamera films. We're looking forward to the new movie.
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Response to nikto (Original post)

Thu Apr 24, 2014, 06:11 AM

9. I'm not familiar with Japanese mythology...

but you could actually push the metaphor much farther back in European mythology to Daedelus and Icarus. Science, like religion, must be tempered with reason and discretion.

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Thu Apr 24, 2014, 06:20 AM

10. Many here talk about "woo". The scientific method requires controlled circumstances BUT

 

Nature/Reality always has an element of chaos.

Outside the laboratory, there are always unexpected consequences.

Science has its own form of "woo".

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 27, 2014, 06:44 AM

32. That's not woo.

Nice attempted thread-jack, though.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 06:32 AM

45. wat

 

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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #45)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 09:13 AM

54. +1. Or perhaps +wat. nt

 

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Thu Apr 24, 2014, 07:17 PM

11. There's seems to be so many things in the world that are out-of-control...

 

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Climate chaos, Fracking, Fukushima, mutations, drones and ultra-high-tech warfare,
GMO "Franken-foods", evolution of super-bacteria,
China's extreme air-pollution, The HAARP Machine and fears of the US MIC,
extinctions and mass-deaths of certain animal species (frogs, urchins, etc), pollution of the seas, contrails paranoia,
NSA super-surveillance, a worldwide banking and financial machine that is running amok, etc etc etc etc


The movie may end up striking striking a chord on a world-wide level (if it's well done,
which, judging by the talent involved, it appears likely to be.)

To live on Earth today, you have to have doubts and insecurities, unless you are uncommonly
pampered or sheltered, a la Koch Bros or Jamie Dimon.

Anyone with a brain and a conscience must eventually arrive at the question:

Is the human race up against a deadly, unstoppable "Godzilla", partly of its own creation?

Will Humankind survive the next 50-100 years?

To be honest, it doesn't look all that great, IMO.
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Response to nikto (Original post)

Fri Apr 25, 2014, 03:44 AM

12. Will humankind survive the next century?

 


















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Response to nikto (Reply #12)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 08:28 AM

51. Heh.

Better yet, will we survive this one?

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Fri Apr 25, 2014, 06:40 AM

13. History shows again and again

How nature points out the folly of men.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 25, 2014, 11:24 PM

14. That looks like Gozer the Destructor

 

I thought he got liquified in Ghost-Busters.

Must be his son?

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Response to nikto (Reply #14)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 07:47 AM

22. It's Rush Limbaugh

Destroyer of Truth

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Response to Dirty Socialist (Reply #22)

Sun Apr 27, 2014, 02:46 AM

30. Limbaugh qualifies as deadly kaiju

 

Venomous, like
The Blob's more toxic younger brother.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 28, 2014, 08:58 AM

39. I rewrote that song for Mexican food. It's called Tortilla.

 

With some lettus and rice and beef inside ...eat Mexican food again and again ...Tortilla

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #13)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 05:06 AM

44. Ill put my money on Gojira!

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #13)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 06:33 AM

46. Oh no, there goes Tokyo.

 

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Fri Apr 25, 2014, 11:39 PM

16. Quite the pleasurable and informative read. Thanks! nt

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 01:14 AM

17. I am looking forward to seeing it opening night.

I'm sure certain DU snobs will trash it if it makes a lot of money and bemoan the stupidity of the public for seeing it, but whatever.

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Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #17)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 08:50 AM

25. Can't wait to see it! n/t

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Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #17)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 09:13 AM

55. I am spectacularly geeked-up about this newest iteration...

 

...I was never a real fan of the dreadfully amateurish movies of my youth, but with modern CGI and a pretty decent-looking cast this has the makings of an epic popcorn-chewer...

Cannot wait!

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 05:27 AM

19. Here's a pertinent article...

 


"Earth: Game Over?
We're in the middle of a sixth mass extinction, and this will be the first one—and possibly
the last—we will witness as human beings
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"

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/04/24

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 03:08 PM

27. the '54 movie was both noir and taboo: until the Occupation ended you couldn't even mention

fallout; it's not even a metaphor for the utter devastation of 1944-5, but

imperialist nations always imagine themselves victimized by some upstart who doesn't play fair--there was even a whole genre where many Britons basically mentally masturbated to their own ruin, but these invasion stories utterly evaporated once millions were actually injured or killed in industrialized warfare at the Somme and Mons--888000 for Britain alone

those countries that haven't seen their home soil torn up maintain the old fin-de-siecle sentimentalism: their invasion tales remain unrooted from reality, a way to experience one's victimhood beforehand and thus build up righteous anger against the designated enemy; the compassion remains for oneself alone--a fetishized victimhood one can wallow in, like in "Red Nightmare" where podunk county courthouses are surrounded by Soviet sandbags and machine-gun nests; PG Wodehouse got rapped for "Dixie Chicking" something they saw as Deadly Serious--the moment when the Fritzes Finally Would storm East Anglia, drag off our screaming women and line us up against the wall OMG OMG

to us, "Barefoot Gen" and the original "Godzilla" are a type of fantasy, in the same vein as "2012" or "Man of Steel": a "disaster movie" or a "superhero movie" (and indeed the Godzilla movies quickly slid into that); save for OKC and 9-11 Americans haven't really had to pick up dozens of 8-year-olds in knickerbockers and throw them onto a pile for burning or bury infants covered in third-degree burns in the ashes of what used to be a whole city; we can still make believe those we bomb all had it coming, or that it was doing them a favor--but deep inside we know we're lying, as the Lost Generation and then the post-Korea wave of Vonneguts and Hellers and Walter Millers show

and Japan's got a long legacy of mind-bending sea monsters

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 10:40 PM

28. Indeed Godzilla matters.

Our knowledge has dangerously surpassed our wisdom and nature will soon show all of mankind our true place.


I've always loved Godzilla. He was my all time favorite childhood hero. I saw a an interesting take on him recently in some fan fiction written from Godzilla's point of view. Here's a great quote from it.



This is the Godzilla movie I've waited for my entire life. I can't wait!!!!

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Sun Apr 27, 2014, 02:37 AM

29. And the Nuclear Arm$ Race Goe$ On...

 

"The tiny Marshall Islands is dragging the United States and eight other nuclear-armed countries to the UN’s highest court for failing to halt the nuclear arms race and rid the world of atomic weapons."


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/25/tiny-marshall-islands-to-sue-u-s-over-nuclear-bomb-testing/

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Sun Apr 27, 2014, 09:21 AM

34. This is why I love DU.

 

Great original post with deep philosophical inflection.

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Mon Apr 28, 2014, 12:53 AM

35. Godzilla is an image right out of Spiritus Mundi

 

spiritus mundi ---- "Spirit of the world" ---- From "The Second Coming" (poem) by William Butler Yeats. Refers to Yeats' belief that each human mind is linked to a single vast intelligence, and that this intelligence causes certain universal symbols to appear in individual minds. The idea is similar to Carl Jung's concept of the collective unconscious.

Godzilla is a universal symbol with roots deep in the collective imagination of humankind,
and, via contemporary media, has achieved status as
a modern internationally-recognized mythological archetype on a Joseph Campbell/Carl Jung level.



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Response to nikto (Original post)

Mon Apr 28, 2014, 04:17 AM

36. I find this song to be appropriately ethereal and suited for these themes...

 

Waiting For A Million Years
by Missing Persons

When will there be forgiveness
Are there enough reasons
I do believe it's possible
We can find peace between us

In the real world all the numbers have no names
Real world--notice how the faces change

I've been waiting for a million years
All the promises and all the tears
Patiently waiting as the days go by
Still looking for the truth but finding lies

What will bring light to our eyes
When will we hear the laughter
Can we build hope on promises
Here on the edge of after

I've been waiting, still waiting
I've been waiting, still waiting
I've been waiting, still waiting
I've been waiting for a million years
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Response to nikto (Reply #36)

Mon Apr 28, 2014, 07:12 AM

37. "I am he that was made by you. I have become the destroyer of your world..."

 

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Mon Apr 28, 2014, 08:31 AM

38. Gojira, the original Japanese film is one of the most influential films

 

of all time. One of the all time great movies. A harbinger, a gateway, a progenitor.

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Mon Apr 28, 2014, 09:07 AM

40. So...

Should we see in IMAX 3D, 3D, or regular? I want to buy tix for opening weekend and must decide.

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 01:29 AM

42. Will they ever do a Godzilla movie where it doesn't keep changing scale?

 

That would be a good start.

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Response to The Second Stone (Reply #42)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 08:00 AM

49. This one is CGI so odds are there will be consistency.

 

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]

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Response to The Second Stone (Reply #42)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 09:04 AM

53. Godzilla movies that lack realism bother me

 


But, yeah, that annoys the hell out of me too.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #53)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 11:08 AM

58. You clearly get it.

 

One minute Godzilla's face is looking in a commuter train window, the next he is towering over a skyscraper. Decide how big it is damnit! Stick with it! Tell your model makers and prop guys how big it is.

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 05:03 AM

43. Awesome post

Who doesn't love Gojira!

Though, to be honest King Gidora has always been my favorite!

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Response to LostOne4Ever (Reply #43)

Wed Apr 30, 2014, 03:36 AM

60. King Ghidora had so much potential...

 

When he was comin' up, the scouts raved...

3 heads;Bigger than Godzilla;Interstellar flying ability;Powerful electrical discharges.

Never won The Big One, never beat the big guy.

Sort of, the Darryl Strawberry of Kaiju.




He coulda' been a contenda'.

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 07:54 AM

48. They're making another?

You can tell how much attention I pay to the movie industry, lol. I DO see a few movies during the summer when I'm not working too many hours every week. Usually with my teen-aged grandson; it's hard these days to find movies that we BOTH have an interest in. I'll keep this one in mind.

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 09:04 AM

52. Excellent OP.

Well written and pertinent. Thanks.


REC

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 09:22 AM

56. if Forkboy was still here he'd love this thread...

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 11:08 AM

59. Loved the old Godzilla movies too. Godzilla, King Kong and other monsters are modern day Titans

 

wrecking ruin upon civilization but they are not doing it out of spite or even out of psychopathic urges. They’re doing it because they are just following their nature, even if it was modified by human design, and they are so massive that they don't notice us puny humans. To them, we are like ants.

While, I know that Godzilla represents nuclear power and its unpredictable and destructive power, you don't need nuclear power to destroy our planet. Fossil fuel consumption is literally damaging our planet at a faster and more massive rate today than nuclear power.

The real Godzillas in our midst today are the mufti-national oil companies, like Exxon Mobil, BP, and Shell. Their vision of the future is to maximize their profit margins even if that means burning our biosphere to the ground. That narcissistic view isn't much different than the primitive reptilian intelligence displayed by the rampaging Godzilla.

The fact that these behemoth oil companies won't spend even a sliver of their billions in profits in researching new ways to improve cleaning up oil spills that poison our water and land and finding new ways to extract or reduce carbon pollution from our atmosphere is equivalent to Godzilla wrecking havoc and ruin as he strolls through a major city and nation.

One of the morals of the Godzilla movies, is that even if our elites unintentionally create Godzilla, the monster affects us all. Climate change will imperil all of us and all living creatures who share our world. Godzilla, a creature originally from a primitive world, is a reflection of our primitiveness and our hubris, which leads us to think that we can plunder and pollute our world with impunity.

The way to defeat Godzilla is to cut off its food supply. First, recognize the monster within us and make life changes accordingly. While we do that, network with each other to find ways to make our government restrain the unbridled avarice of behemoth companies, like Exxon, and their giant financial backers on Wall Street.

Monsters have been defeated before. Our ancestors passed the Sherman Anti-trust Act, the Glass-Steagall Act, the income and estate taxes, the Clean Air Act and other safety regulations to defeat or restrain past Godzillas. We can do it again. Like Excalibur was to King Arthur, some of those tools our ancestors created are still with us, waiting to be used.

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Response to Larkspur (Reply #59)

Wed Apr 30, 2014, 03:41 AM

61. I'd include the biggest banks among the godzillas of the world

 

Talk about crushing the little guy underfoot.

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Thu May 1, 2014, 11:51 PM

62. G images

 

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Response to nikto (Reply #62)

Thu May 1, 2014, 11:55 PM

63. He looks like he has a chicken beak

 

I'll reserve judgement until I see it.

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Fri May 2, 2014, 02:40 AM

64. Japanese fans complain local-hero Godzilla too fat

Japanese fans complain local-hero Godzilla too fat

Tokyo (AFP) - Japanese fans of Godzilla say the newly-unveiled monster, set to star in a Hollywood reboot of the post-war classic, is too fat and has been "super-sized" by a country used to large portions.

The latest version of the giant amphibian will hit 3D screens in the United States on May 16 and in Japan two months later as the fire-breathing Japanese lizard marks its 60th anniversary this year.

Trailers for the film and promotional stills have begun circulating, as marketers look to build excitement, but Japanese fans said their hero was a little chubby.

"Only the silhouette of the new Godzilla had been seen before," said Fumihiko Abe. "When I finally saw it, I was a bit taken aback". "It's fat from the neck downwards and massive at the bottom," said the 51-year-old, who said he has seen every Godzilla movie ever made.

http://news.yahoo.com/japanese-fans-complain-local-hero-godzilla-too-fat-070236058.html;_ylt=A0SO81yASWNTmhoAl21LBQx.;_ylu=X3oDMTE1a3AwMmJ1BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA01TWVVLMDRfNzc-

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Thu May 8, 2014, 03:58 AM

66. I don't think I can watch a Godzilla movie

back in the early 80's I lived with a guy and when he was stoned, which was often, he liked to watch the broadcast Godzilla movies with the sound off and he supplied all the sound effects....and I mean ALL of them......the monster, the screaming people.......gawd

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Response to Skittles (Reply #66)

Thu May 8, 2014, 04:25 AM

67. That's odd, I don't remember having a roomate in the 80s

 







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Response to nikto (Reply #67)

Thu May 8, 2014, 04:38 AM

68. DUzy!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #68)

Thu May 8, 2014, 12:40 PM

69. SCHEDULING BOTH OF YOU FOR ASS KICKINGS

see what happened was, I was taking college classes, trying to study and the noise from the movie would bother me - so he would helpfully offer to turn the sound down, but then he would...............aw f***, the memories........the trauma

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Response to Skittles (Reply #69)

Fri May 9, 2014, 01:08 AM

70. If you had been majoring in Kaiju and taking a class on "Godzilla"...

 

It would have been a great help.


The choice of major here is a key.



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Tue May 20, 2014, 03:32 AM

73. Godzilla crushes all at the box office, and there WILL be a sequel

 

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Response to nikto (Reply #73)

Wed May 21, 2014, 07:27 PM

82. That's too bad....

I was excited for the film, but there wasn't much of a story there. Godzilla was cool and all, but I don't see what a sequel could consist of.

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Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #82)

Sun May 25, 2014, 02:06 AM

87. New monsters, new problems

It worked in the Japanese films

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Tue May 20, 2014, 03:35 AM

74. Interesting video riffs on G

 



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Response to nikto (Original post)

Tue May 20, 2014, 03:51 AM

75. I think it should be pointed out that the 1946 tsunami

affected mainly the Shikoku/Kii Peninsula area, hundreds of miles away from Fukushima Dai-ichi. The 1960 tsunami, caused by the M9.0 Chile earthquake, reached up to 20 feet at Mutsu, a couple of hundred miles up the coast from Fukushima Dai-ichi, but was much lower than that in the Fukushima area. The 1964 tsunami affected Niigata, on the opposite (Sea of Japan) side from Fukushima. There really was no local precedent in historical times for anything near the 65-foot wall of water that hit Tomioka, just south of the reactors, on March 11, 2011.

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Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #75)

Wed May 21, 2014, 04:17 AM

79. They were only prepared for Baragon...

 

But they got a Godzilla.

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Response to nikto (Reply #79)

Wed May 21, 2014, 04:41 AM

80. That's it, in a nutshell

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Tue May 20, 2014, 06:12 AM

77. I'm sure the point was to make a visual deeply metaphorical endeavor as opposed to mega-millions.

 

But that is not to say the movie is without meaning; I'm just not convinced that was the motive for a re-make of an old movie but using CGI technology and a couple currently "hot" actors.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #77)

Wed May 21, 2014, 07:03 PM

81. All movies are made to earn a profit

 

Including artistic films like 2001, Life Of Pi, Citizen Kane, etc etc etc



It's true, Godzilla 2014 could have been "edgier" in terms of the plot's cover-up element and the
"mastery of nature" aspects. But I think a strong thematic element is there as well,
if a person wants to think about it more deeply.

Ultimately, it's up to the viewer.

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Tue May 20, 2014, 06:29 AM

78. Why Godzilla matters

as one poster stated , raymond burr was value added as the american public wouldnt accept a all japanese movie . too bad . loss of a lot of footage . thanks for posting
some of the " hard core " fans are a bit miffed as they were expecting a all out monster battle royal. one even complaind of the " human element ". us deeper thinkers know that in the original , godziilla wasnt shown much. godzilla was a moral story.

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Sun May 25, 2014, 01:53 AM

84. NSA Godzilla

 

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Response to nikto (Original post)

Sun May 25, 2014, 11:57 AM

89. Most fairy tales mimic the human condition and our

fears,they always have.Godzilla is hardly breaking new ground.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #89)

Sun May 25, 2014, 07:01 PM

90. True, and as such, Godzilla is a state-of-the-art archetype

 

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