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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 06:45 AM Apr 2014

Cliven Bundy Wonders If Blacks Are 'BETTER OFF AS SLAVES' Than On Gov't Assistance





PATRIOT??.......MY ASS!!.....Lets try RACIST!!...........




Now that he's won a confrontation with the Bureau of Land Management over grazing his cattle on federal land, Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy has time to hold court on everything from abortion to the current state of "the Negro." Bundy made some racially charged comments about government assistance in his daily news conference Saturday, according to a New York Times story published Wednesday.



“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” the rancher began as he described a "government house" in Las Vegas where he recalled that all the people who sat outside seemed to "have nothing to do." “And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he said, as quoted by the Times. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”



The Times reached out to spokespeople for Sens. Rand Paul (R-KY) and Dean Heller (R-NV), who have spoken in support of Bundy, and for Texas Attorney Gen. Greg Abbott (R). Those who responded distanced themselves from Bundy and his remarks. A spokesman for Heller, who had called Bundy and his supporters "patriots," told the Times that the senator “completely disagrees with Mr. Bundy’s appalling and racist statements, and condemns them in the most strenuous way.”




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Cliven Bundy Wonders If Blacks Are 'BETTER OFF AS SLAVES' Than On Gov't Assistance (Original Post) Segami Apr 2014 OP
This welfare rancher now has an audience and is going prove what an ass he really is liberal N proud Apr 2014 #1
Time to start calling them out Segami Apr 2014 #2
Idiot!!!!! mfcorey1 Apr 2014 #3
Here we have the spokesman of the Repubicans C_U_L8R Apr 2014 #4
He will be a big part of 2014 maindawg Apr 2014 #20
And there are millions who agree with him Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #5
I was just coming to post this Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #6
Since he called in racist terrorist militias to shoot up law enforcement officers,... MohRokTah Apr 2014 #7
Nice to see he is so concerned about freedom for "the Negro" Vietnameravet Apr 2014 #8
Birthers showing up today at his ranch to make "announcement" MohRokTah Apr 2014 #10
Where in hell is this conservative insanity going to lead us? When will it end? And how? Vietnameravet Apr 2014 #11
Another News Story Dirty Socialist Apr 2014 #9
Surprisingly Morning Joe gave a good bit of coverage to the story Mike Daniels Apr 2014 #16
People like this become JustAnotherGen Apr 2014 #12
so let me get this straight... MohRokTah Apr 2014 #13
Government assistance has sure been working for Clive. merrily Apr 2014 #14
Don't hold your breath waiting for Hannity to disassociate himself from this prick. bullwinkle428 Apr 2014 #15
Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #17
Paul Ryan's recent remarks about the "inner city" culture are basically the same ... JoePhilly Apr 2014 #18
Bundy just said awoke_in_2003 Apr 2014 #32
pretty much. Most of them have learned how to say it so that ... JoePhilly Apr 2014 #34
Yep, that is exactly what they do. nt awoke_in_2003 Apr 2014 #37
This is the greatest thing ever maindawg Apr 2014 #19
Time to pack up and move to Mars,...a welcomed fresh start... Segami Apr 2014 #21
Old ass white racist bigdarryl Apr 2014 #22
This does not surprise me at all CanonRay Apr 2014 #23
Hearts and mind(less) Augiedog Apr 2014 #24
"...one more thing". Sounds like the conclusion of some previous remarks. Rose Siding Apr 2014 #25
His religion taught him that dark skinned people bear the mark and curse of Cain siligut Apr 2014 #26
and they teach their own children well- not going away any time soon lunasun Apr 2014 #36
Donny & Marie Osmond On Why Blacks Can't Hold Priesthood in the Mormon Religion 951-Riverside Apr 2014 #42
"They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.” Rex Apr 2014 #27
Fox News and the con propaganda machine are going down in flames, and there is no stopping Fred Sanders Apr 2014 #28
“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” Enrique Apr 2014 #29
This Is Great Stuff.... Laxman Apr 2014 #30
This is the tip of the iceberg, and the main ice field is actively calving. Fred Sanders Apr 2014 #31
Did someone leave open a door to the 1800's? ck4829 Apr 2014 #33
sorry folks but bears repeating lunasun Apr 2014 #35
Here's the video of Bundy's statements... countryjake Apr 2014 #38
I heard Bundy Jamaal510 Apr 2014 #39
You are correct. Supporting links... freshwest Apr 2014 #40
Whoa 14 kids?! Jamaal510 Apr 2014 #41
LOL freshwest Apr 2014 #43
He supports them off the land 951-Riverside Apr 2014 #44

liberal N proud

(61,162 posts)
1. This welfare rancher now has an audience and is going prove what an ass he really is
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 06:47 AM
Apr 2014

Don't you love it when those who are living off the government condemn others who they perceive as living off the government?



 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
2. Time to start calling them out
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 06:50 AM
Apr 2014

as government 'MOOCHERS & TAX EVADERS'.......shine a light on this weasel fraud.





 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
20. He will be a big part of 2014
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 08:14 AM
Apr 2014

Along with Phil from DD so get used to it.The stupid will be cranked up to 11.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
5. And there are millions who agree with him
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 06:58 AM
Apr 2014

They would rather poor people just die on the streets than the government spend a penny of taxes to provide for them.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
7. Since he called in racist terrorist militias to shoot up law enforcement officers,...
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 07:03 AM
Apr 2014

I'm not surprised to find out he's a blatant racist.

 

Vietnameravet

(1,085 posts)
8. Nice to see he is so concerned about freedom for "the Negro"
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 07:07 AM
Apr 2014

Complaining about others living off government subsidies while stealing government property..


His popularity will certainly soar..maybe he will get a job at the RNC or Fox News.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
10. Birthers showing up today at his ranch to make "announcement"
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 07:10 AM
Apr 2014

He's now taking up with Birthers.

 

Vietnameravet

(1,085 posts)
11. Where in hell is this conservative insanity going to lead us? When will it end? And how?
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 07:11 AM
Apr 2014

Mike Daniels

(5,842 posts)
16. Surprisingly Morning Joe gave a good bit of coverage to the story
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 07:53 AM
Apr 2014

For the most party the crew on Morning Joe has criticized GOP leaders who rallied behind Bundy.

This little "oops" on Bundy's part pretty much led to Joe having a "told you so" victory dance with him noting that people are going to start backpedaling pretty fast on any support they offered Bundy.

JustAnotherGen

(37,474 posts)
12. People like this become
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 07:25 AM
Apr 2014

"heroes" because there are many people who agree with him - they just won't come right out and say it.

I welcome his prejudice and bigotry - seriously - I do.


I would much rather someone call me a n-bomb to my face than lie and make me think it was something else.

Now we know! He doesn't like us black folk. We can dismiss him and cross the street when we see him because we don't want the too wet to step on and too low to kick to slide off of his slimy ass and onto us.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
13. so let me get this straight...
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 07:45 AM
Apr 2014

Mr. Welfare Rancher is complaining about "negroes" being on public assistance??????

Oh, I get it. They aren't rich white men, so they don't deserve anything free from the government.

What a POS.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
14. Government assistance has sure been working for Clive.
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 07:46 AM
Apr 2014

Last edited Thu Apr 24, 2014, 08:29 AM - Edit history (2)

ETA: I wonder why Clive referenced African Americans. During the 2012 Presidential campaign, Newt Gingrich said that most people on food stamps are not African American. (Yes, Newt.)

Then again, Clive said that he obeys all Nevada laws. Who knew that Nevada has no laws about trespassing, stealing, failing to pay what you owe, shooting law enforcement officers, etc.? Also no laws that so much as recognize the existence of the federal government.

So, maybe Clive is simply full of cow puckies on all topics and should STFU.

bullwinkle428

(20,659 posts)
15. Don't hold your breath waiting for Hannity to disassociate himself from this prick.
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 07:49 AM
Apr 2014

(cough) Hal Turner (cough)

Response to Segami (Original post)

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
18. Paul Ryan's recent remarks about the "inner city" culture are basically the same ...
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 07:57 AM
Apr 2014

... just stated with slightly more "linguistic discipline".

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
34. pretty much. Most of them have learned how to say it so that ...
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 09:26 AM
Apr 2014

... they can claim you've mischaracterized their intent.

Bundy is like the GOP's id. It says whatever it wants to say.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
19. This is the greatest thing ever
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 08:12 AM
Apr 2014

It just keeps getting better. I hope Fox gives him his own show ! He can go on the Duck Dynasty Tour ! Be a guest of Rand Paul at the capital ! Go on the NRA tour with terrible Ted !
As I said before, I cant wait for more federal lands to be liberated by his army of idiots so we can have more rules free places to shoot guns and cook meth and rape some women, and maybe lynch some black people and have country music, and moonshine, and monster trucks, and NASCAR, and 4 wheelers, and burn coal and oil just for the hell of it !
We are going to make this country great again for one last hell raising party before the entire ball of dirt melts down or some asteroid makes it go bye bye and none of it matters any longer anyway .By god.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
21. Time to pack up and move to Mars,...a welcomed fresh start...
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 08:18 AM
Apr 2014

err, ....maybe not!

CanonRay

(15,904 posts)
23. This does not surprise me at all
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 08:28 AM
Apr 2014

I wonder if he has ever even spoken to a black person, let alone know one. This is classic tea party philosophy. Ignorant and racist to the core.

Augiedog

(2,683 posts)
24. Hearts and mind(less)
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 08:29 AM
Apr 2014

Cliven Bundy is the physical representation, escaped from it's ideologically crafted cage, of what the repucklians have devolved to. They know there is something wrong with letting Bundy expose their dark side but they can't help themselves in their giddy Klanish glee. I can't help but wonder if good ol boy Cliven see's the welfare queen in himself when he looks in the mirror. Pay your fees just like the rest of us citizens Bundy or you will pay a forfeiture you may really not like, but pay you will!!

Rose Siding

(32,627 posts)
25. "...one more thing". Sounds like the conclusion of some previous remarks.
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 08:31 AM
Apr 2014

You suppose he was discussing our President? Or maybe the AG?

But don't DARE call them racists

siligut

(12,272 posts)
26. His religion taught him that dark skinned people bear the mark and curse of Cain
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 08:31 AM
Apr 2014

His stupidity may be convenient, but he didn't come by it all on his own.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
42. Donny & Marie Osmond On Why Blacks Can't Hold Priesthood in the Mormon Religion
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 11:46 PM
Apr 2014




"The black person" ...granted it was 1978 but Donnie Osmond sounds just like a young Cliven Bundy.
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
27. "They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 08:41 AM
Apr 2014

And there you have it folks! Bumblescum-fuck Bundy...racist, stupider than hell and pining for the days when white men owned black men and women.

Doesn't get much more fucked up then that!



Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
28. Fox News and the con propaganda machine are going down in flames, and there is no stopping
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 08:47 AM
Apr 2014

the motor mouth of Bundy and his new found racist, sexist, fascist and Republican Party allies, all to be covered by a still interested mass media....too delicious to just eat popcorn.

Right wing hero and possible GOP Presidential candidate Bundy made his remarks to reporters recording the event on Saturday, April 19, 2014....

Laxman

(2,426 posts)
30. This Is Great Stuff....
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 09:00 AM
Apr 2014

they need to give this guy more air time. I'm sure he's got a whole repertoire of offensive bigoted material. Let him hold forth on all of it! Just make sure to get it on high quality video so it can be used in campaign commercials against every republican cretin who supported him. Push him a little bit...you know he's just dying to say it all.

ck4829

(37,356 posts)
33. Did someone leave open a door to the 1800's?
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 09:25 AM
Apr 2014

"Have nothing to do"
"I WANT FREE LABOR!"

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
35. sorry folks but bears repeating
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 10:23 AM
Apr 2014

so Mr. Bundy used the time to officiate at what was in effect a town meeting with supporters, discussing, in a long, loping discourse, the prevalence of abortion, the abuses of welfare and his views on race.

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.
Continue reading the main story

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”
.....................................
kids and old people on a porch not out working his fields oh my! The kids didn't learn to pick cotton ! sad

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
39. I heard Bundy
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 07:09 PM
Apr 2014

tried to kind of walk it back and say that he was talking about the "family unit" of Blacks being looser today than they were during the slave days, but if I'm correct, the slaves were actually regularly split up from their kids, plus marriage for them was illegal. He's got his Black history twisted, there.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
44. He supports them off the land
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 02:34 AM
Apr 2014

...that is used by the mail truck to drop off the welfare checks, tax incentives, disability payments, farmer subsidies and tax refund checks at his house.

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