How do women's-only colleges qualify for federal funding?

[PlanetaryOrbit]

Sorry if the answer is really obvious and I missed it, but I have a layman question about higher education:

How do women's-only colleges qualify for federal financial aid if such funding prohibits gender-based admissions? Is there an exception in the rules?

[cthulu2016]

1. Try here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1114

[MineralMan]

2. What funding?

Are there public colleges that are women only? Do private women's colleges get direct government aid? I think we need some specific examples here. I'm thinking you haven't thought this through or are dealing with some agenda. So, let's have some facts and details.

[Warpy]

3. Right, and the women's college has largely gone the way of the buggy whip

Most of them have gone coed over the years and Radcliffe being pretty much absorbed by Harvard. It had existed as "The Harvard Annex" originally in order to give women a Harvard education without a Harvard degree.

The ones that are left are mostly religious schools.

[pnwmom]

5. The Seven Sisters only lost Radcliffe and Vassar.

None of them are religious schools.

[mwooldri]

6. Bennett College.

It's a private women's only college in Greensboro, NC. Students still fill out the FAFSA, and they can get federal and state grants and loans. It's also home to Bennett Middle College, a public high school ... also women only.

So yeah, they get government money, through students tuition fees partly paid for by a federal grant or loan. I don't see it to be a big deal because they're women only. There exists an equal opportunity to open a men's only college or school.

If I look at it this way, women clamoring to get into mens only schools and clubs in the past wasn't about gender, it was about power and the right to be an authority figure despite gender. These were the institutions that held the authority... they were the decision makers... if you were part of them, you'd be in the "old boys network" and you have privilege. These places denied women because they thought that it would cause a major change in the social order. The old boys were right... it did change some things... but the old boys network is still very much alive, still quite male...

If it was the other way around, I'm sure men would have done the same thing... petition for entry to a women's only club because the women are the privileged and have all the power in society... wait? But this didn't happen. No men are clamoring to get into Bennett College.

Single sex schools and colleges have their place. Places like Bennett College should continue to exist and thrive. Yes, even the Early College at Bennett, part of Guilford County Schools, should exist and thrive. The bottom line is that there is nothing inherently wrong about same sex schools. Sometimes equality is achieved with some selective gender exclusion. As long it is done in the right way, and it doesn't distort equality, same sex schools can be of a benefit to everyone irrespective of gender.

[MineralMan]

10. Grants and loans fund students, not schools.

I have no problem with private, single-sex schools at all, nor with government grant and loans to students at them.

[mwooldri]

13. +1 :) nt

[Ohio Joe]

4. oh Yay... Some new MRA bullshit...

You have already been given directions to the 'mens' group... They will appreciate the schtick.

[alp227]

7. your question is misleading

since the only women's colleges in existence now are private colleges, those colleges do not receive federal financial assistance directly, so title IX doesn't apply. Federal financial aid goes to students to pay for tuition, not directly to schools, hence the reason why there's this student loan crisis.

[NaturalHigh]

8. I'm not really sure.

I do know that several years back, Texas Women's University was forced to admit men or risk losing funding.

[alp227]

9. because it's a public school that can get federal grants,

thus falling under Title IX.

[lumberjack_jeff]

11. Title IX exempts colleges that accept students of only one sex.

Since there are only three private nonreligious colleges for men in the US, which collectively turn out about 1000 bachelors degree holders annually, in practice this means women's schools.

Although much of Title VI case law can be applied to Title IX situations, the analogy is not perfect because Title IX contains several important exemptions that are absent in Title VI. For example, with regard to single-sex admissions policies, Title IX’s prohibitions against sex discrimination apply only to vocational, professional, graduate, and public undergraduate schools (except for those public institutions of undergraduate higher education that traditionally and continually from their establishment have had a policy of admitting only students of one sex).2

http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/cor/coord/ixlegal.php

[PlanetaryOrbit]

14. Interesting. So private liberal arts colleges are exempt?

Most private liberal arts colleges still seem to comply anyway, though.

[lumberjack_jeff]

15. Colleges that were single-sex at the passage of Title IX are exempt.

VMI and the Citadel qualified under this exemption but were ordered to accept women on grounds other than Title IX.

[Iggo]

12. I don't hate women..